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Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
sweddengate is trending and i for one am glad some poo poo is stirring up over how the nords achieved their level of socdem society

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ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008


this is it, croats will now be ready to give their (preferably other people's) lives for the EU

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


gently caress the EU honestly

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Honest Thief posted:

sweddengate is trending and i for one am glad some poo poo is stirring up over how the nords achieved their level of socdem society
i am sorry, but it's only the swedes. three of the nordic countries were official imperial subjects around a hundred years ago or less, another effectively one, and two were subjects to imperial conquests and ethnic cleansing which either took place in or continued into the 20th century.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Southpaugh posted:

gently caress the EU honestly
:hmmyes:

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

A Buttery Pastry posted:

i am sorry, but it's only the swedes. three of the nordic countries were official imperial subjects around a hundred years ago or less, another effectively one, and two were subjects to imperial conquests and ethnic cleansing which either took place in or continued into the 20th century.

:(
at least i get sweden

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
its ok, all the other nordics also think that the swedes are a bunch of assholes

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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i prefer "league of american vassals"

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

Lindner & co being good lil neolibs and preparing to sell off State assets

https://twitter.com/BloombergAsia/status/1532741043246010368

webcams for christ has issued a correction as of 17:05 on Jun 3, 2022

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



nice villain's lair style headquarters

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012
https://www.science.org/content/article/upheaval-norwegian-science-funding-threatens-grants

researcher friend posted this to me, i dont follow norwegian politics nearly enough, but is there any particular reason they are nuking their research council and budget?

quote:

Norwegian researchers are facing dramatic budget cuts after the government abruptly took control of its research funding agency board and said it must curtail its spending. On 12 May, the Norwegian Ministry of Education and Research announced it had fired the entire board of the Norwegian Research Council and replaced it with a temporary one to deal with what the government describes as “a serious financial situation.”

The decision threatens the stability of research and higher education, leaders in Norwegian science say. The research council now faces a shortfall of as much as 2.9 billion kroner ($300 million) by the end of 2024—approximately one-third of its annual budget. And commentators question the government’s handling of the situation. “The situation now is a crisis that was not needed,” says Svein Stølen, rector of the University of Oslo.
[...]
A government report said the council broke strict rules on the management of public finances, which generally require money to be spent in the year it was allocated. The council had combined funding streams from different government ministries and spread the money across years and projects. It also built up a funding reserve intended for delayed projects.

The previous Norwegian government had imposed a series of funding cuts in order to force the agency to spend down its reserve.
The council and wider research community assumed the government would replenish the funds when the time came to use them, Rice says. But after a national election in September 2021, a new government took over, which Rice says has only offered lukewarm support for science. It does not intend to replace those funds, and the council has now promised more grants than its coffers can sustain.

seems like they were starved in a very neoliberal fashion and then suckered into thinking that maybe they wouldnt be getting chopped off. But why would they hit their research sector this hard?
also lol at not allowing extended projects, must spend everything in one year or the bean counters get mad!

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Norway also has a 1.3 trillion dollar oil fund that for some reason can never be tapped…

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



mortons stork posted:

spend down its reserve

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
I think the best part was that the party that took power in 2021 was actually the social democrats replacing a center-right coalition.

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012
that article is basically describing how you do a targeted assassination of a public agency you dont like, like, by the book lol
i still dont understand why they would do that though. has loot and pillage neoliberal politics proper finally arrived in norway?

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





iirc Ap under Stoltenberg was incredibly neoliberal and privatised a ton of national industries, and I'm pretty sure Støre was a massive part of it, so it doesn't surprise me that much that Ap's still loving over the state nowadays

I blame Tony Blair

Venomous has issued a correction as of 17:08 on Jun 4, 2022

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
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Venomous posted:

iirc Ap under Stoltenberg was incredibly neoliberal and privatised a ton of national industries, and I'm pretty sure Støre was a massive part of it, so it doesn't surprise me that much that Ap's loving over the state nowadays

I blame Tony Blair
European social democrats had started privatizing before the fall of the USSR. Tony Blair was a follower.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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mortons stork posted:

that article is basically describing how you do a targeted assassination of a public agency you dont like, like, by the book lol
i still dont understand why they would do that though. has loot and pillage neoliberal politics proper finally arrived in norway?

the yachts aren't going to pay themselves

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

Ostalgie

https://twitter.com/BJMbraun/status/1533420491222007808

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


I remember being on the western border of Germany a couple of years ago waiting for a train to Paris. It was late by like an hour.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

the reason for this is not a superior socialist rail network, but relatively recent investments in Eastern infrastructure since reunification and, most importantly, lower population density meaning less trains on the tracks. The West German rail network is operating way beyond capacity, which means one late train often leads to a shock in the entire network.

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

Honj Steak posted:

the reason for this is not a superior socialist rail network, but relatively recent investments in Eastern infrastructure since reunification and, most importantly, lower population density meaning less trains on the tracks. The West German rail network is operating way beyond capacity, which means one late train often leads to a shock in the entire network.

The Ostalgie comment was a shitpost, but I don't find population density to be a persuasive reason for delays at all, as other countries have obviously overcome that challenge. In Japan the average train delay is about one minute. It's of course correct to say they're operating beyond capacity, in part because Germany doesn't fund rail investment nearly as well as some of its neighbors:

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Honj Steak posted:

the reason for this is not a superior socialist rail network, but relatively recent investments in Eastern infrastructure since reunification

So would you say East Germany is Auferstanden aus Ruinen?

Peggotty
May 9, 2014

Map of railway lines that have been shut down since 1994

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Peggotty posted:

Map of railway lines that have been shut down since 1994



Can't have train delays if you have no trains

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

webcams for christ posted:

The Ostalgie comment was a shitpost, but I don't find population density to be a persuasive reason for delays at all, as other countries have obviously overcome that challenge. In Japan the average train delay is about one minute. It's of course correct to say they're operating beyond capacity, in part because Germany doesn't fund rail investment nearly as well as some of its neighbors:



Yup, I‘m not contending that at all. The population density is only a factor because the rails in East and West are similarly well equipped, but they should be much more capable in the West to offer the same reliability.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Danish asylum centers are so bad that Ukranians prefer Kyiv bomb shelters.

https://nyheder-tv2-dk.translate.go...&_x_tr_pto=wapp

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Danish Asylum is such a well-written game

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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SplitSoul posted:

Danish asylum centers are so bad that Ukranians prefer Kyiv bomb shelters.

https://nyheder-tv2-dk.translate.go...&_x_tr_pto=wapp

I am surprised people who pretend to care about you don't actually care about you

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Palladium posted:

I am surprised people who pretend to care about you don't actually care about you

And these are the people getting preferential treatment compared to, say, Syrians. The government might even intervene soon to prevent the ongoing ruthless exploitation of their labour, which is surprising to say the least, if welcome.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Unity List just voted in favour of expanding NATO. Last nail in the coffin for the Danish parliamentary left.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
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SplitSoul posted:

Unity List just voted in favour of expanding NATO. Last nail in the coffin for the Danish parliamentary left.
They are clearly employing wafer thin mint tactics.

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


the left in the west is thoroughly co-opt'ed by capital. Northern Europe is never going left in meaningful numbers until doing so further empowers the bourgeois.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

i am sorry, but it's only the swedes. three of the nordic countries were official imperial subjects around a hundred years ago or less, another effectively one, and two were subjects to imperial conquests and ethnic cleansing which either took place in or continued into the 20th century.

I don't think the point is that someone of your ethnic group in the past took immoral actions but rather that you today directly benefit from those actions.
Also, are you counting seven nordic countries? What are they, the eastern baltics?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



there's 7 nordic countries:
dk
no
se
fi
fo
gl
is

Scandinavia (ie the worst ones) is only the first 3

Carthag Tuek has issued a correction as of 23:26 on Jun 10, 2022

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

smh claiming IS is nordic has been Turkey's point all along

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



i say swears online posted:

smh claiming IS is nordic has been Turkey's point all along

yea they would be correct to claim so

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

https://twitter.com/rumorahasit/status/1537056031628460032

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May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
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