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psydude posted:So you're saying we should all be trembling in fear of the Egyptians and Greeks. The Turks, actually. Never mind that, we should fear the era spanning might of the San Marinans.
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My aunt retired to France. I enjoy trolling her friends by reminding them that the best sparkling wine in the world is English and the best cheese in the world is American. e: Seriously why would anyone ever buy Champagne when Cava and Processco exist, are just as good, and cost less than $10. psydude fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Jun 4, 2022 |
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Jun 4, 2022 21:07
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psydude posted:My aunt retired to France. I enjoy trolling her friends by reminding them that the best sparkling wine in the world is English and the best cheese in the world is American. If you can’t tell the difference among champagne, cava, and Prosecco you probably shouldn’t be commenting on who has the best food and drink.
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Jun 4, 2022 21:12
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Man I miss super cheap delicious Prosecco while in Italy. Get me a pair of bottles and my evening was perfect.
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Jun 4, 2022 21:17
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Stultus Maximus posted:If you can’t tell the difference among champagne, cava, and Prosecco you probably shouldn’t be commenting on who has the best food and drink. I can, but for me the difference doesn't translate to a $30 premium.
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Crab Dad posted:Man I miss super cheap delicious Prosecco while in Italy. If you’re ever in Sigonella, super cheap Nero d’Avola is awesome and hardly ever exported.
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Jun 4, 2022 21:20
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A.o.D. posted:I'm really not sure what you're arguing against. I misread the tone of your comment. My bad. I thought you were saying that "we never lost a battle/we are winning when I left/military won-politics lost" poo poo. Apologies. I'm cranky.
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Jun 4, 2022 21:22
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psydude posted:I can, but for me the difference doesn't translate to a $30 premium. I'm partial to Martini and Rossi "champagne" myself. $15 is right up my aisle.
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Jun 4, 2022 21:24
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psydude posted:I can, but for me the difference doesn't translate to a $30 premium. Not in France it doesn't!
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bulletsponge13 posted:I misread the tone of your comment. My bad. I can tell!
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Jun 4, 2022 21:32
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I enjoy Prosecco as much as anyone but a good Prosecco is like a good hamburger. A good champagne is like a good steak.
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Jun 4, 2022 21:43
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People in the south of France don't drink champagne, they drink their local cremant
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Cheap sparkling wine is usually just force carbonated plonk. Spumante wines are almost universally not worth their significantly lower price but many frizzantes (and Lambruscos!) can be as enjoyable as champagne. But the second best sparkling wines behind champagne are still just other loving French sparkling wines too! Burgundy makes some beautiful ones, and Loire valley sparklers are also dope. Er, sorry can you make sunflower wine? (No) Do the Ukranians grow grapes? I know Croatia, Hungary have an extremely long history of delicious wine
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Jun 4, 2022 21:48
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Soul Dentist posted:Cheap sparkling wine is usually just force carbonated plonk. Spumante wines are almost universally not worth their significantly lower price but many frizzantes (and Lambruscos!) can be as enjoyable as champagne. But the second best sparkling wines behind champagne are still just other loving French sparkling wines too! Burgundy makes some beautiful ones, and Loire valley sparklers are also dope. Georgian wine is great, especially the weird ancient method stuff.
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Crab Dad posted:Man I miss super cheap delicious Prosecco while in Italy. Prosecco is the good poo poo. It's what my very Catholic paternal grandmother drank. Mind you I don't usually drink sparkling wine unless it's set in front of me at a celebration.
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Soul Dentist posted:Cheap sparkling wine is usually just force carbonated plonk. Spumante wines are almost universally not worth their significantly lower price but many frizzantes (and Lambruscos!) can be as enjoyable as champagne. But the second best sparkling wines behind champagne are still just other loving French sparkling wines too! Burgundy makes some beautiful ones, and Loire valley sparklers are also dope. Croatia has some delicious alcohols. I brought home an amazing gin, red wine based liquor and a honey brandy. Man I miss Croatia too.
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Jun 4, 2022 23:16
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I can tell the color of a wine on sight with over 90% accuracy.
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Jun 4, 2022 23:29
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psydude posted:My aunt retired to France. I enjoy trolling her friends by reminding them that the best sparkling wine in the world is English and the best cheese in the world is American. lol uhhhh what is the cheese you're talking about?
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Grip it and rip it posted:lol uhhhh what is the cheese you're talking about?  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I kind of want to just post a picture of Velveeta. edit: correction, the great value knockoff
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Grip it and rip it posted:lol uhhhh what is the cheese you're talking about?  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I love me some pasteurized processed cheese food substitute. Edit: love that image of the jizzing milk bottle that carefully avoids making the actual claim the product contains milk. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jun 5, 2022 |
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Jun 4, 2022 23:58
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When you're not legally allowed to call it "cheese", and the focus groups advise against calling it what it is, an abomination wrought by science.
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Back before Kraft figured out processed cheese American cheese just meant cheddar. Actual good American cheese is still just cheddar or Colby prepared with an emulsifier at an elevated temperature. Those are just labeled “process American Cheese”. If it says “process American cheese food” then it’s only 51% cheese and the rest is some other dairy products. If it says anything else then it’s a not legally distinguished product and could be anything.
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A.o.D. posted:I love me some pasteurized processed cheese food substitute. "Pasteurized process cheese food" gets a bad rap. The main ingredient is required to be actual dairy cheese, and the stuff that's allowed to be blended in is mostly cheese-adjacent dairy products like whey and cream. Most importantly, they're permitted to blend in emulsifying salts to prevent it from "breaking" when melted (meaning it stays creamy and doesn't have the oil separate out). This is why American cheese is so fuckin' good on a burger. https://www.seriouseats.com/whats-really-in-american-cheese "Pasteurized Process American Slices" are the no-cheese vegetable oil based substitute. Also, as Lopez-Alt says, be a little more skeptical of products using labels which sound similar to "Pasteurized Process Cheese Food" but aren't actually one of the FDA-regulated labels.
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BobHoward posted:"Pasteurized process cheese food" gets a bad rap. The main ingredient is required to be actual dairy cheese, and the stuff that's allowed to be blended in is mostly cheese-adjacent dairy products like whey and cream. Most importantly, they're permitted to blend in emulsifying salts to prevent it from "breaking" when melted (meaning it stays creamy and doesn't have the oil separate out). This is why American cheese is so fuckin' good on a burger. my dude, the label literally starts the nomenclature with "imitation". It is legally distinct from cheese or cheese food. The closest this product gets to cheese is the use of casein. The main ingredient is vegetable oil.
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I like how salty it is
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I had a cheese dealer in Germany. I've never met a cheese dealer since I got back. Europe cheese > Murica cheese. (I literally mean dealer. He had some five year aged gouda and I asked him jokingly if he had anything older. He no poo poo, did the over-the-shoulder cop check before pulling a case out from under a hidden drawer in his cart)
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GD_American posted:I had a cheese dealer in Germany. I've never met a cheese dealer since I got back. Europe cheese > Murica cheese. 1. Cheese *monger* 2. After he went through the trouble you bought some, right? RIGHT?!
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A.o.D. posted:1. Cheese *monger* 1. No. People with storefronts, who purchase inventory from wholesalers, are cheesemongers. This dude was a straight-up cheese dealer 2. gently caress yes, 11 year aged gouda. You remember that gum that advertised "flavor crystals"? I found out where they got the idea
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GD_American posted:1. No. People with storefronts, who purchase inventory from wholesalers, are cheesemongers. This dude was a straight-up cheese dealer oh yeah that's the good poo poo.
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GD_American posted:I had a cheese dealer in Germany. I've never met a cheese dealer since I got back. Europe cheese > Murica cheese. https://twitter.com/nescartridges/status/1527715617201180672
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GD_American posted:I had a cheese dealer in Germany. I've never met a cheese dealer since I got back. Europe cheese > Murica cheese. smuggling cheese is a surprisingly big organized crime thing. up to an including cheese heists. It makes sense though, everyone likes cheese and no one really cares where it comes from if the price and taste is right, it's super value dense, it's always a low priority crime as far as police are concerned and a couple guys with a panel truck can steal $100,000 of the stuff in a couple hours. maybe not the most glamorous organized crime, but hey you also aren't getting a 30 year prison sentence for stealing cheese. Sanctions on cheese in the last decade have only increased the market for smuggled cheese, too.
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A.o.D. posted:my dude, the label literally starts the nomenclature with "imitation". It is legally distinct from cheese or cheese food. The closest this product gets to cheese is the use of casein. The main ingredient is vegetable oil. Don't want to derail more but I was responding specifically to "pasteurized process cheese food", which most people assume is imitation cheese since it sounds weasel word as gently caress even though it actually is real cheese. Sorry if I missed some context!
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Grip it and rip it posted:lol uhhhh what is the cheese you're talking about? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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This is one of those images that is supposed to troll someone but instead gets a  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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holy poo poo, this raises a memory. I asked the guy one day how strong bleu cheese got, and he gave me a hunk of the creamiest, most delicious, but also definitely fragrant bleu imaginable. I bought a half-kilo of it, and one Thursday afternoon to gently caress with my wife, while I was waiting to pick her up from work (she worked on the same base I did, as a housing inspector- she got off before me every day but Thursday), I started eating it in the car like an apple. It stunk up the whole car (hell, it stunk up the minifridge at work I used to store it that day), and she was grossed out, so yeah successful joke, but I found out something dark about me- I'd have eaten that whole goddamned chunk right then and there, no bread or anything. It was that fantastic.
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GD_American posted:...but I found out something dark about me- The first time I went to the Portland Saturday Market I happened across a cheese guy who was so happy to hand out samples I just had to buy some product otherwise I would've eaten him right out of his booth. Likewise I asked him for the strongest bleu he had, and to this day that remains some of the best cheese I've ever had.
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GD_American posted:1. No. People with storefronts, who purchase inventory from wholesalers, are cheesemongers. This dude was a straight-up cheese dealer This is how you properly cheesepost in GIP.
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