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Alctel posted:Oh yeah the province also bought up a bunch of hotels in Victoria and turned them into supported housing for homeless people, that was cool As someone in an industry that has had historical difficulties unionizing, the new union-process rules were an unexpected small bit of good news. We have to do 1000% more to deal with the housing catastrophe here in BC… and the rest of the country… but I’ll appreciate wins where I can get them.
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Jun 4, 2022 08:44
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The BC NDP suck rear end but they've done plenty of good things, it's just never even close to enough. It's maddening they're almost certainly going to lose the next election to a party that has zero intention on meaningfully solving the problems people are worked up over (housing, health care, gas prices, etc.) and in fact make a ton of things worse. This country loving sucks rear end.
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Jun 4, 2022 16:13
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I really hope the Ontario NDP and Liberals do some serious soul searching. They’ve really run an absolutely lacklustre campaign and have only themselves to blame for Ford winning again. I don’t mean to be shilling for the PCPO because I didn’t vote for them. But if you don’t have any political interest beyond election season which is true for a lot of people, the Ford government is not some Christian nationalist movement Conservative party. Ford is a populist. For a lot of people who still drive to work for their jobs or deal with kitchen table issues he’s actually delivered things that at least on paper sound pretty good. Your average Joe doesn’t care how the license plate renewal money will be offset by cuts or taxes elsewhere. He just sees the ford govt issued them a $390 dollar check. Then there’s that right to disconnect law. 14 years of liberal rule and two golden opportunities for the NDP and it took a conservative govt to codify my right not to be hassled after work by my employer? I work for a company that has people plugged in all the time. People who know me know how incredibly stressed out I am by all the emails and phone calls I get on a non stop basis expecting immediate response or else people complain. There’s zero respect for personal boundaries or work hours. I don’t get paid to read emails, answer calls and work after hours and with this latest legislation I’m no longer just informally allowed to be unreachable after business hours, now it’s my right under provincial labour laws. I’m sure the law falls short in a variety of ways but we need more of that kind of stuff where people actually get something instead of just being told their taxes are gonna go up while the OLP or whoever cozy up to bay street for another cycle and give me gently caress all and diddly squat. This is less a vote of confidence for Doug and more my utter disappointment and lack of enthusiasm for anyone else. The NDP better start listening to their grassroots because if another wet blanket like Horvath gets in I’ll find it difficult to even bother showing up to vote at this point.
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Jun 4, 2022 16:31
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Kraftwerk posted:. The NDP better start listening to their grassroots because if another wet blanket like Horvath gets in I’ll find it difficult to even bother showing up to vote at this point. Welcome to the 57%
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Jun 4, 2022 17:59
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The "ban all future" part is laughable. Dear Pierre: You won't be remembered in 10 years. You certainly don't get to make decisions for other governments in 10 years, especially decisions that are based on public health. Also, when you pretend that you can make decisions that are binding forever, your tiny dictator-weenie is hanging out of your shorts. If you really want to be remembered or make decisions that people will continue to refer to years from now, you'll have to actually build or create something, which is an actually difficult thing to do that requires an actually intelligent person, so neither your party and especially you are going to be able to do that so let's stop pretending. Sincerely, Rational Canadians
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Jun 4, 2022 21:09
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InfiniteZero posted:The "ban all future" part is laughable. He's gonna be a big shot caller in PM Dougie's government and they're going gently caress over shitloads of people because our democracy is a sham
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Jun 4, 2022 21:13
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Tighclops posted:He's gonna be a big shot caller in PM Dougie's government and they're going gently caress over shitloads of people because our democracy is a sham I'm pulling for the inevitable heart attack for Dougie before that's even an issue. Not wishing it on him specifically, but he's not living like he's planning that far ahead so why should we worry about it either.
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Jun 4, 2022 21:54
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InfiniteZero posted:I'm pulling for the inevitable heart attack for Dougie before that's even an issue. Not wishing it on him specifically, but he's not living like he's planning that far ahead so why should we worry about it either. lmao if you think you're gonna get that lucky then start playing the lotto my droog
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Jun 4, 2022 22:31
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PP Is 100% going to be PM. This country is doomed. DooooooooooooooOOOooOOooomed!
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Jun 5, 2022 01:07
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Stanley Pain posted:PP Is 100% going to be PM. This country is doomed. DooooooooooooooOOOooOOooomed! Are you reacting to that Toronto Star article where they said he signed up 300,000 members to vote for him? I am a bit concerned PP might win leadership and PM status too. I think a voter apathy is building up coupled with trucker convoy adjacent die hards and people who want pandemic restrictions gone who might put him in office.
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Jun 5, 2022 02:05
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I didn’t think PP was gonna win the leadership but lol if the competition is gonna be Charest and Patrick Brown we’re also due for a “kick the bums out” election where we swap between red and blue teams
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Jun 5, 2022 02:36
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Kraftwerk posted:14 years of liberal rule and two golden opportunities for the NDP and it took a conservative govt to codify my right not to be hassled after work by my employer? Where are you getting that from? The law is just that they have to have a policy, not that the policy gives you the right to not be hassled. quote:https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/written-policy-disconnecting-from-work
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Jun 5, 2022 02:37
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I'm curious what PM PP does. In campaign mode he's very good at staying juuust this side of the line so he can plausibly claim he didn't actually do a racism etc. If he does the same in power, he'll be indistinguishable in practice from the last decades of rule (though we'll never hear the end about the breaches of decorum).
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Jun 5, 2022 03:45
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Where are you getting that from? The law is just that they have to have a policy, not that the policy gives you the right to not be hassled. If that’s true what’s the point of this?
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Jun 5, 2022 04:08
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It's less good than it could be bit it does at least force expectations to be explicit, which helps cut down on abuse ime - similar to requiring every business to have a harassment policy, safety training, accessibility policy, privacy policy, etc.
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Jun 5, 2022 04:12
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Are you telling me that the law that they passed about this thing is that all the businesses have to say out loud that they aren't going to do it.
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Jun 5, 2022 04:24
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Bleck posted:Are you telling me that the law that they passed about this thing is that all the businesses have to say out loud that they aren't going to do it. welcome to the Ford government
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Jun 5, 2022 04:25
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Kraftwerk posted:If that’s true what’s the point of this? I mean, you thought it was something a reasonable person would think. So they get some credit without actually doing anything. And it's a nudge, making employers have the policy makes them want to have a policy that's competitive with other places in this kind of tech hiring climate I guess. I've been watching this one for a while and a surprising amount of people think it gives them a right to not be hassled after hours. You should ask your HR department for a copy of their policy on Monday because they should legally have it in place now.
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Jun 5, 2022 04:37
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the actual voter tally
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Jun 5, 2022 04:37
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Samuel Glompers posted:At least the BCNDP brought back card check, that's pretty cool They've also brought in this Community Agreement stuff for big projects which seems like a pretty union friendly thing and a significantly different approach than the public-private partnership approach of the BC Liberals. https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2018PREM0057-001406 I fully expect them to play big time hardball whenever the various public employees unions contracts come up, but other than that I feel like this has been a government that has been passing legislation to help unions.
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Jun 5, 2022 06:19
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Femtosecond posted:I fully expect them to play big time hardball whenever the various public employees unions contracts come up, but other than that I feel like this has been a government that has been passing legislation to help unions. Public service union is having a strike vote right now
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Jun 5, 2022 08:15
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urf posted:the actual voter tally Have seats allocated by vote share but including people who didn't vote. The share of the vote that is unaccounted for goes towards representatives that are randomly chosen by lottery. Doesn't get more proportionally representative than that.
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Jun 5, 2022 08:22
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Kraftwerk posted:Are you reacting to that Toronto Star article where they said he signed up 300,000 members to vote for him? Mostly because a lot of people aren't taking him as a serious threat and are underestimating scared white people and the "team sports" voters. Conservatives seem to have figured out what NuPolotik looks like while everyone else is still playing the old game.
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Jun 5, 2022 14:18
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Stanley Pain posted:Mostly because a lot of people aren't taking him as a serious threat and are underestimating scared white people and the "team sports" voters. Conservatives seem to have figured out what NuPolotik looks like while everyone else is still playing the old game.
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Jun 5, 2022 14:50
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Sashimi posted:Sounds a lot like the 2016 American election... Picture perfect isn't it. 🤮
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Jun 5, 2022 15:21
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Kraftwerk posted:If that’s true what’s the point of this? Now you’re starting to understand.
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Jun 5, 2022 16:01
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Coxswain Balls posted:Have seats allocated by vote share but including people who didn't vote. The share of the vote that is unaccounted for goes towards representatives that are randomly chosen by lottery. Doesn't get more proportionally representative than that. Or just switch to a system like STV
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Jun 5, 2022 18:24
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Stanley Pain posted:Mostly because a lot of people aren't taking him as a serious threat and are underestimating scared white people and the "team sports" voters. Conservatives seem to have figured out what NuPolotik looks like while everyone else is still playing the old game. It seems weird to say this about a party that lost their third election in a row less than a year ago. They got those memberships from PP’s stance on pandemic restrictions, which isn’t going to mean much by 2025. And thanks to the NDP-Lib agreement an early election is not in the cards.
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Jun 5, 2022 19:14
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Blood Boils posted:https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/british-columbia/2022/5/30/1_5925332.amp.html This doesn't even make sense. Those are not things normal people would happily do, but they are not illegal. So if you are a criminal mastermind playing Fear Factor with your new recruits, you'll know that anyone who guzzles pee without complaint is either a cop or a pervert.
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Jun 5, 2022 19:41
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"Is it necessary for me to drink the CO's urine? Probably not, but I do it anyway because it's sterile and I like the taste!"
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Jun 5, 2022 19:59
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Am I missing something or are the complaints about bill s-7 all missing the mark? I've seen a bunch of articles and poo poo about how it's an erosion of freedom but as far as I knew before they didn't need a reason at all to search your phone and poo poo. Maybe I'm missing something?
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Jun 5, 2022 20:24
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It involves pre-clearance, which is a thing that should not exist in any sense beyond allowing US officers the rights of civilians to perform inspections. If that's not enough for them, then let us go through customs and immigration in the US, or, equally, insist on the right of CBSA to perform arbitrary inspections on United States soil for flights destined to Canada.
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Jun 5, 2022 22:08
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Coxswain Balls posted:Have seats allocated by vote share but including people who didn't vote. The share of the vote that is unaccounted for goes towards representatives that are randomly chosen by lottery. Doesn't get more proportionally representative than that. Elect all seats by random ballot -- one ballot is chosen at random from the riding and that ballot decides the winner. No other votes are counted.
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Jun 5, 2022 22:11
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When I say randomly chosen I don't mean out of the pool of candidates that signed up. Someone in the riding just gets a letter in the mail saying "congrats, you're now an MP. Here's the salary and benefits, good luck!".
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Jun 5, 2022 22:34
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Coxswain Balls posted:When I say randomly chosen I don't mean out of the pool of candidates that signed up. Someone in the riding just gets a letter in the mail saying "congrats, you're now an MP. Here's the salary and benefits, good luck!". gently caress me, I'd prefer jury duty. EDIT: Actually, no, I wouldn't. Salary and benefits of an MP sounds like a perverse incentive for me not to vote under the proposed system, in fact. PT6A fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jun 5, 2022 |
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Jun 5, 2022 22:40
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Coxswain Balls posted:When I say randomly chosen I don't mean out of the pool of candidates that signed up. Someone in the riding just gets a letter in the mail saying "congrats, you're now an MP. Here's the salary and benefits, good luck!". I kinda like this system when things are functioning normally. When things are a disaster though this feels like it could be aggravating when the balance of power is held by a rando who spends too much time on 4chan.
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Jun 5, 2022 23:01
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PT6A posted:If that's not enough for them, then let us go through customs and immigration in the US, or, equally, insist on the right of CBSA to perform arbitrary inspections on United States soil for flights destined to Canada. I think the CBSA have that right but the government has never bothered to implement it. Probably easier for the Americans to do given most Canadians heading down to the states do it from one of only a few places.
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Jun 5, 2022 23:08
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Coxswain Balls posted:When I say randomly chosen I don't mean out of the pool of candidates that signed up. Someone in the riding just gets a letter in the mail saying "congrats, you're now an MP. Here's the salary and benefits, good luck!". A parcel, containing a letter, and a ringing cell phone with 83 messages and 400 unread emails
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Jun 5, 2022 23:08
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Entropic posted:Elect all seats by random ballot -- one ballot is chosen at random from the riding and that ballot decides the winner. No other votes are counted. The Serene Republic of Canada has a nice ring to it if we kick out the Queen along with.
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Jun 6, 2022 00:49
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StealthArcher posted:The Serene Republic of Canada has a nice ring to it if we kick out the Queen along with. I’d go with “The Unified Republic of Canada” to signify the several distinct nations within Canada.
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Jun 6, 2022 01:11
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