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Pine Cone Jones posted:https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1533590808070197248?t=Oq4kDZqJGhPoVUAaErvviA&s=19 I like how the tactical and operational difference between the Ukrainian and Russian militaries continues to be night and day. UA is playing all of the greatest hits from the history of warfare (and mixing in some new material), while Russia's approach boils down to "RUSSIA STRONK." psydude fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Jun 6, 2022 |
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GD_American posted:If you like the taste of a sharp white cheddar but it's not the right kind of melty for a GC, take a half brick of it, a wheel of brie, and about a cup of white wine, and blend/food process. Added points for mixing some softened butter with dijon mustard to slather on the bread before cooking. It's a Test Kitchen recipe called a grown-up grilled cheese. It's fantastic. i like any recipe that starts with 'take half a brick of cheddar and a wheel of brie'
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in non cheese news, Zelensky visited Lysychansk, which i have circled in red on the map above Also Lavrov cancelled his trip to Serbia because all of the closed airspace for Russian planes. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Jun 6, 2022 |
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lmao, I completely forgot it was landlocked
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I missed #GermanChat but I just got back from Germany (before covid I would go 2 or 3 times a year to Munich for work) but when I first started going it took me like 2 trips to realize everyone there wasn't just constantly pissed off at me. Germans just simply don't do the nice chit-chat "Hello, how are you? Nice day, what can I get you?" that Americans do, because they don't know you and you're just a random customer in the shop, we're not friends, it's illogical and invasive to ask about your day or life even in a perfunctory manner. It's such a background part of retail interactions in the US though, I don't even consciously process it, but the absence causes my brain to think something is "off" and they are angry with me for some reason. I used to have a coworker with Asperger's and she loved Germany because it was like a whole week or having zero expectations of interacting with strangers on any level beyond request / response.
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mrmcd posted:I missed #GermanChat but I just got back from Germany (before covid I would go 2 or 3 times a year to Munich for work) but when I first started going it took me like 2 trips to realize everyone there wasn't just constantly pissed off at me. Germans just simply don't do the nice chit-chat "Hello, how are you? Nice day, what can I get you?" that Americans do, because they don't know you and you're just a random customer in the shop, we're not friends, it's illogical and invasive to ask about your day or life even in a perfunctory manner. It's such a background part of retail interactions in the US though, I don't even consciously process it, but the absence causes my brain to think something is "off" and they are angry with me for some reason. I used to have a coworker with Asperger's and she loved Germany because it was like a whole week or having zero expectations of interacting with strangers on any level beyond request / response. It's nice, isn't it? The most you'll get is a quick, "Gruß Gott.", and about your day you go.
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I've heard that when you are on a friendly level with someone, when they ask you how you are they kind of expect more than just "es geht" or "mir geht's gut, danke" because hey we're friends now, I am here to hear about your whole life now
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I went to Germany and Austria and I loved that about it. I was not expected to be smiling the whole time or make small talk. Also the parking garage said “gute fahrt” over the exit so it put me in a good mood every day.
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Aces High posted:I've heard that when you are on a friendly level with someone, when they ask you how you are they kind of expect more than just "es geht" or "mir geht's gut, danke" because hey we're friends now, I am here to hear about your whole life now You have to play that by ear a bit, "muss ja" or "alles gut" def are acceptable answers for that question depending on time and place. Can't really put it into a proper rule rn.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:Wholesale looting and exporting of grain from occupied Ukrainian territories appears to have been in full swing for a while now. A lot of it seems to be heading to Syria, presumably to feed Assad's soldiers. Turkey sure doesn't seem interested in doing much of anything about it. Well they're using at least one old trick from their historical playbook.
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It’s almost like they should make a few privateer craft to deal with this. Really curious to see what’s escorting them.
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mrmcd posted:I missed #GermanChat but I just got back from Germany (before covid I would go 2 or 3 times a year to Munich for work) but when I first started going it took me like 2 trips to realize everyone there wasn't just constantly pissed off at me. Germans just simply don't do the nice chit-chat "Hello, how are you? Nice day, what can I get you?" that Americans do, because they don't know you and you're just a random customer in the shop, we're not friends, it's illogical and invasive to ask about your day or life even in a perfunctory manner. It's such a background part of retail interactions in the US though, I don't even consciously process it, but the absence causes my brain to think something is "off" and they are angry with me for some reason. I used to have a coworker with Asperger's and she loved Germany because it was like a whole week or having zero expectations of interacting with strangers on any level beyond request / response. On the flip side, Germany has notoriously awful customer service. Was your train cancelled? Good luck finding someone who cares, especially if you're owed a refund. Need internet at your new apartment? Schedule it 8 weeks in advance and hope it all goes smoothly, otherwise the technician will be on site in another 4. And keep a thorough accounting of everything you've ordered at a restaurant so you don't wind up paying for the 1-2 items you'll inevitably never receive. It's bad enough that even Germans complain about it constantly. It's probably the only country in the world where customer ratings improve once a company outsources their customer service to India (which Lufthansa has mercifully done). I love living here, but my pathological American need to get poo poo done immediately at all times makes some things particularly annoying. e: The undercover ticket checkers on the U and S bahns are an exquisitely German thing. Why use turnstiles like every other country in the world when you can just employ your own Metro Stasi to harass people who accidentally bought the wrong ticket using your confusing fare machine? psydude fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jun 6, 2022 |
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Crab Dad posted:It’s almost like they should make a few privateer craft to deal with this. Nothing, I bet they don’t even have armed guards onboard.
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psydude posted:On the flip side, Germany has notoriously awful customer service. Was your train cancelled? Good luck finding someone who cares, especially if you're owed a refund. Need internet at your new apartment? Schedule it 8 weeks in advance and hope it all goes smoothly, otherwise the technician will be on site in another 4. And keep a thorough accounting of everything you've ordered at a restaurant so you don't wind up paying for the 1-2 items you'll inevitably never receive. On this recent trip my coworker's train from FRA to Munich was delayed by 3 hours, which apparently entitled her to monetary compensation. DB implemented this by handing her a 3 page form in German only for her to fill out and provide documentation to claim her refund, without any real instructions except maybe she could get cash by handing it in to a ticket booth? The combination of strong consumer protections crippled by impenetrable bureaucracy felt so quintessentially German. Also trains. Those people love trains.
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mrmcd posted:I missed #GermanChat but I just got back from Germany (before covid I would go 2 or 3 times a year to Munich for work) but when I first started going it took me like 2 trips to realize everyone there wasn't just constantly pissed off at me. Germans just simply don't do the nice chit-chat "Hello, how are you? Nice day, what can I get you?" that Americans do, because they don't know you and you're just a random customer in the shop, we're not friends, it's illogical and invasive to ask about your day or life even in a perfunctory manner. It's such a background part of retail interactions in the US though, I don't even consciously process it, but the absence causes my brain to think something is "off" and they are angry with me for some reason. I used to have a coworker with Asperger's and she loved Germany because it was like a whole week or having zero expectations of interacting with strangers on any level beyond request / response. Yes, and this was one part of living in Germany that I loved!
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mrmcd posted:On this recent trip my coworker's train from FRA to Munich was delayed by 3 hours, which apparently entitled her to monetary compensation. DB implemented this by handing her a 3 page form in German only for her to fill out and provide documentation to claim her refund, without any real instructions except maybe she could get cash by handing it in to a ticket booth? On the flip side, if you are actually able to fill out the form properly (and it must be perfect) and actually hand it in to the right place you actually will get your money - which is more than I can say for the airlines in Canada!
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You guys get forms?
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mrmcd posted:On this recent trip my coworker's train from FRA to Munich was delayed by 3 hours, which apparently entitled her to monetary compensation. DB implemented this by handing her a 3 page form in German only for her to fill out and provide documentation to claim her refund, without any real instructions except maybe she could get cash by handing it in to a ticket booth? In Japan, my train was late by about 30 minutes so I missed my connection. I stopped by the ticket booth to see about getting it switched over for a later train, only to have them refund the first leg of the trip and update my ticket. No questions, no fuss. Amazing how much things differ across the world for something so simple as accomodating customers.
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When I lived in Switzerland, the "Welcome to Zurich! Here's what you need to know to thrive in Switzerland." meeting I attended described Swiss social interactions by saying Americans (yes, they used Americans as their foreigner example) were peaches, while the Swiss were coconuts. What they meant by this was that peaches are soft on the outside but hard on the inside, while coconuts have a thin layer of hardness but lots of soft material. Basically, Americans make casual friends very easily but don't hold a lot of room for close friends, where the Swiss don't have casual acquaintances but once you become a friend you are a close friend for life. It seemed to check out as most of the Swiss guys I interacted with would still go off for 2 week vacations to drink with the guys they went to 1st grade with, while most of my actual friends there were all other foreigners. Fake edit: Also, the Zurich Swiss loving hated Germans. Like holy poo poo, if you got one of them going they would talk poo poo about Germany for hours.
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A_Bluenoser posted:On the flip side, if you are actually able to fill out the form properly (and it must be perfect) and actually hand it in to the right place you actually will get your money - which is more than I can say for the airlines in Canada! I've gotten checked baggage fees refunded but lol at getting any kind of compensation for flight delays (except maybe a voucher for 10% off your next trip)
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cult_hero posted:In Japan, my train was late by about 30 minutes so I missed my connection. I stopped by the ticket booth to see about getting it switched over for a later train, only to have them refund the first leg of the trip and update my ticket. No questions, no fuss. Yeah, the ease of this sort of thing in Japan was wild to me. I remember hearing an acquaintance gripe about their bureaucracy, but when I went there I realized that there was a process in mind for every little event so that once I followed the correct procedure ("talk to this person and they'll send you to that person"), everything I needed to do was quick and painless.
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psydude posted:On the flip side, Germany has notoriously awful customer service. Was your train cancelled? Good luck finding someone who cares, especially if you're owed a refund. Need internet at your new apartment? Schedule it 8 weeks in advance and hope it all goes smoothly, otherwise the technician will be on site in another 4. And keep a thorough accounting of everything you've ordered at a restaurant so you don't wind up paying for the 1-2 items you'll inevitably never receive. I had a German friend who complained about the expectation that retail workers be nice to you in the US and the way he explained it was "In Germany, we expect that the customer must be the one who is nice and patient. The salesperson has something you want, yeah? So you must be the one who is nice"
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My favorite German thing is their obsession with doctorates and finding out if someone received their doctorate through misdeeds. It's a hobby for people to slog through dissertations that have sat on the shelf for decades to uncover plagiarism, which made their education minister resign in 2011. Super snobbish about being granted the right title, so when checking in with Lufthansa they allow for "doctor, professor, or professor doctor." Had a family friend from Germany who absolutely had to get a doctorate in an obscure field and didn't finish until the age most folk retire. At this point she and her retired husband had plenty of money, a great house, and lived close to family and grandkids. But local universities weren't hiring in her field so she insisted they move to a desert near a school that let her be an associate professor.
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https://twitter.com/JeffSempleGN/status/1533760744889663488 Virgin literally wearing crocs turns back the might of the Russian empire
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Notahippie posted:I had a German friend who complained about the expectation that retail workers be nice to you in the US and the way he explained it was "In Germany, we expect that the customer must be the one who is nice and patient. The salesperson has something you want, yeah? So you must be the one who is nice" the reality is you also have something they want(money) so you should be nice to each other I hate people who treat salespeople like servants as much as I won't go back to a business with rude employees.
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Notahippie posted:I had a German friend who complained about the expectation that retail workers be nice to you in the US and the way he explained it was "In Germany, we expect that the customer must be the one who is nice and patient. The salesperson has something you want, yeah? So you must be the one who is nice" Eh, to a degree. Germans have no problem with correcting strangers, to include salespeople/service people*. And maybe they're right in this case, because if the salesperson at the Mediamarkt is earning a good wage and has strong worker's protections, then the class dynamic that makes Karening someone so appalling pretty much evaporates. Like if someone is a lovely waiter/waitress, I won't give them any trinkgeld and I don't have to feel guilty about whether or not they can eat tonight. If Americans want to be lovely to people working in the retail and food services industries, then they should support unions and a living wage. *Sometimes to the point of absurdity: https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-germany-has-no-karen-but-it-has-the-alman/a-54306538 I was once getting into a lift at Frankfurt airport. There was a sign that said that no more than 3 people could be in the lift at any one time due to COVID restrictions. An older German couple walked up, and then someone on crutches, and we all proceeded to get into the elevator. The older German gentleman turned around to the person on crutches (not me, the young healthy person) and told them that they couldn't not get into the elevator, because we already had 3 people. I said "Are you loving kidding me" and went and took the stairs. e2: Back on topic, Russia is discovering the challenges of ruling over a smoking crater that you created yourself, has to shut down Mauripol due to an outbreak of cholera. https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f08f0cf4d70490b psydude fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jun 6, 2022 |
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/JeffSempleGN/status/1533760744889663488 I’m not sure what the age of consent is but will someone please hook this man up and get a him a change of shoes before the Russians come knocking.
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The Ukraine Thread: Russia's war is going horribly, but not as bad as German customer service
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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1525902711719329794 Mein Deutsche freunden: is the collapse of the Left in this regional election due to their position on Ukraine or is it more complicated than that
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Crab Dad posted:I’m not sure what the age of consent is but will someone please hook this man up and get a him a change of shoes before the Russians come knocking. are you suggesting he knock boots with someone
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Crab Dad posted:I’m not sure what the age of consent is but will someone please hook this man up and get a him a change of shoes before the Russians come knocking. The Crocs stay on.
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Kesper North posted:are you suggesting he knock boots with someone Knock crocs was right there dude.
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In autocratic Russia, virgin fucks you!
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Immaculate VBIED conception
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Crab Dad posted:Knock crocs was right there dude. You're right, my pun was a croc of poo poo
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But what does any of this have to do with cheese
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cult_hero posted:In Japan, my train was late by about 30 minutes so I missed my connection. I stopped by the ticket booth to see about getting it switched over for a later train, only to have them refund the first leg of the trip and update my ticket. No questions, no fuss. My luggage was delayed on a connection from Hong Kong back to Okinawa so the airline, upon my bags hitting the ground, had someone drive three hours in a horrendous tropical storm to drop it off to where I was staying . Contrast that with Delta Airlines and, well, yeah.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Bought/found some of this at Total Wine in the DC area a few months ago. Ah, gently caress. E:F;B. The cheap stuff in winemaking areas is great. When I was doing an archaeology study abroad in Naples we chugged various two Euro bottles of wine that were all amazingly good. mrmcd posted:having zero expectations of interacting with strangers on any level beyond request / response. This is one of the things I really miss about Asia. Please do not bother me every five minutes while I'm eating. If I need something I'll scream as loud as I can for you. cult_hero posted:In Japan, my train was late by about 30 minutes so I missed my connection. I stopped by the ticket booth to see about getting it switched over for a later train, only to have them refund the first leg of the trip and update my ticket. No questions, no fuss. Japan customer service is good until you need something to be slightly altered or not precisely following the specified procedure, then you're hosed.
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