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Jiro posted:It's not that I don't believe working in a refinery and welding for most of your adult life wouldn't do that. It's more of seeing other relatives that didn't do that line of work start cropping up with similar issues in their later years in life. But everyone that's working in a refinery is essentially slow death I believe, poo poo I see it whenever I drive into Corpus. I get it, but I just don't think it's particularly likely. We've used a lot of horrible poo poo on crops, lots of it has been banned, but that doesn't stop the damage of previous exposure. But at some point, you have to just look around and realize there are probably greater contributors. Whether that's diesel exhaust fumes from being a mechanic, working with molded plastics, or literally any other industrial environment in this country, cancer is almost always a risk. And if it's not, some can still get you through hereditary poo poo. Pretty much everything bought and sold here now is a cancer risk. I pretty much grew up on one set of my grandparents' farm. I detasseled corn and walked beans, had more than my share of exposure to poo poo kids shouldn't be near. That's been over two decades ago now, and if I were to blame my eventual cancers on that exposure as opposed to my pack and a half a day cigarette habit, people would probably think strangely of my thought pattern, too.
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Jiro posted:What are exactly the hazards of welding when you're working at a refinery, I know that you need the shield to not get blinded, but what else? Is the metal and light intense enough for some kind of radiation poisoning, metallic fumes? One of my grandfathers was a welder in Texas for Superior Oil / Mobil his entire life, and died in his early 70s of all the cancers. I'm certain it was the same reason as your uncle, working with carcinogens your entire life is really bad for your health.
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Do not click if you have a bug phobia: https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rd2nbhqJwU1r0uzl6.mp4
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ekuNNN posted:Do not click if you have a bug phobia: Well I didn't have one
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Jiro posted:
Everything petrochem is extremely bad for humans to be around. From asbestos sprayed pipes to general carcinogens I would just assume working in that industry is what did it. Welding also has never been good (see "zinc shakes" just being a thing people shrug about) but I would assume he'd have respiratory issues specifically from welding.
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ekuNNN posted:Do not click if you have a bug phobia: Oh gently caress I'm going to regret this. Edit: Gross. Sanitation / plumbers really do have a lovely job sometimes.
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ekuNNN posted:Do not click if you have a bug phobia: Just gonna toss a molotov down there and close the lid on ol Jerry, he's too far gone yup.
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ekuNNN posted:Do not click if you have a bug phobia: Hopefully Jerry found some loose corn for Ratty
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The Brighline is a content goldmine for this thread. Just an endless series of news stories about cars getting hit at level crossings padded with quotes from Florida Men insisting on their right to cross the tracks regardless of the state of the crossing gates.
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Seriously—I had to get surprisingly specific when googling for info on this particular Brightline collision.
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Jiro posted:What are exactly the hazards of welding when you're working at a refinery, I know that you need the shield to not get blinded, but what else? Is the metal and light intense enough for some kind of radiation poisoning, metallic fumes? Beyond just the day to day poo poo he was inhaling and touching while in one of those awful places, I'd probably guess he inhaled years worth of welding fumes. It's probably a safe bet that respiratory protection was not high on anyone's list back in that time frame. What fumes he was inhaling would depend on the type of base metal he was welding and what that metal was coated in. For example, welding on stainless steel produces a poo poo ton of some nasty stuff called hexavalent chromium that is extremely carcinogenic.
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iroc.dis posted:Beyond just the day to day poo poo he was inhaling and touching while in one of those awful places, I'd probably guess he inhaled years worth of welding fumes. It's probably a safe bet that respiratory protection was not high on anyone's list back in that time frame. So I have my first cousin, my uncle's oldest son, that followed in his trade. What sort of respirators/proper gear should he be having as essential when on a job like that? Come to think of it I'm pretty sure I have a baby cousin that's working in the PNW doing some of that kind of work on wind farms up there. I appreciate this thread for it's comedy and more so for it's knowledge especially when it comes to stuff like this. Thank y'all.
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All the welders I’ve known in my life never wore respirators. It would probably be hell in the kind of heat welders work in. They might wear them now though.
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Look out here come my posts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rVTWsQ23Pk
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:Look out here come my posts: oh no, coupons and deals is leaking.
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Wearing a respirator in general sucks. Unless its cold and then it helps keep your face warm, but there probably isn't too much welding to be done in freezers. I've heard the old saying: Welders don't retire, they die. Also the bug phobia video, is that the one with the guy in the manhole and all the cockroaches? Yeah, gently caress that poo poo.
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cartoon man, we saw both of these like last week or something. despite that, i thought this one was a plane landing on a state route this time
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Jiro posted:So I have my first cousin, my uncle's oldest son, that followed in his trade. What sort of respirators/proper gear should he be having as essential when on a job like that? Come to think of it I'm pretty sure I have a baby cousin that's working in the PNW doing some of that kind of work on wind farms up there. It's supposed to be his employer's responsibility to ensure a safe working environment and provide appropriate PPE, but unfortunately it's fairly common for welders to be ignored so they can just get the job done. Especially if they're working plant shutdowns and outages. If feasible, local or area ventilation is an ok option to help remove the fumes and/or toxic gases. The next option is for the employee to wear a respirator. There are several types and probably the easiest way to break them down is into non-powered versus powered. Under non-powered, you have disposable half face (like the N95), reusable half face, and reusable full face. These are basically powered by your lungs. You're inhaling air that is being pulled through a filter. They are not comfortable to wear. When it comes to powered, there is only a full face style and a hood style. These have a device that hangs off the back of your belt. The device has a fan that pulls air through a filter and then shoots it up a tube that runs up your back and connects to the back/top of the mask/hood. The clean air is then blown in front of your face. On a previous project, I had several welders that needed to use these so they could weld on stainless steel pipe. They are holy poo poo expensive. Like $1500-$3000 each. My guys loved them. They said the air getting blown on to them was cool so they stayed pretty comfortable. There are also a bunch of different filters depending on what the hazard is (particulate, organic vapor, acid gas, etc). Really it depends on what type of welding your cousin does, what sort of material he works with, what sort of environment he is in, and how much welding he actually does each day. There are a bunch of factors that go in to choosing a respirator so it's not really for me to say he should be using one versus another. If he has a company or plant safety representative (or better yet an industrial hygienist), they would be the one to help him make that determination. This doesn't even get in to all of the different requirements that would be expected of his company if he did need to wear a respirator.
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Load bearing teddy bear. Or perhaps guinea pig. Flip a coin.
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Holy poo poo it's Ray. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJHOtSusJgs
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KoRMaK posted:cartoon man, we saw both of these like last week or something. His gimmick seems to be reposting things from within the last page or two. Not sure if it's on purpose or if he just doesn't read the thread and uses it at a post dump. 
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ChesterJT posted:His gimmick seems to be reposting things from within the last page or two. Not sure if it's on purpose or if he just doesn't read the thread and uses it at a post dump. Be nice to Cartoon Man. Similarly to me, he browses Imgur and shares whatever OSHA-flavored content to be found there. I goof sometimes and share something that's been posted in the past few days, and I imagine he's prone to the same thing every now and then (especially since he posts about twice as much as I do).
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iroc.dis posted:It's supposed to be his employer's responsibility to ensure a safe working environment and provide appropriate PPE, but unfortunately it's fairly common for welders to be ignored so they can just get the job done. Especially if they're working plant shutdowns and outages. Powered air hoods are absolutely the current standard and if it is possible for them to be used, they should be used. They even have auto-darkening faceplates built in.
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https://i.imgur.com/BlnhWjH.mp4 "Spring loaded to prevent arcs and an explosive short circuit. Suit is to protect from heat, sometimes they need almost bomb squad suits." Edit: Why the suit is necessary safety equipment: https://i.imgur.com/IEvi7sO.mp4
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Kith posted:
You think he'll be OK?
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 Just found reddit has a whole sub dedicated to stuff like that: https://www.reddit.com/r/Suislide/ - Uh, important edit - does not actually contain death or injury https://i.imgur.com/dSSVrp0.mp4 Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jun 8, 2022 |
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I can imagine all those bored sea critters, swimming in the same tanks day after day, form unique and interesting grudges against each of the aquarium employees
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Jiro posted:It's not that I don't believe working in a refinery and welding for most of your adult life wouldn't do that. It's more of seeing other relatives that didn't do that line of work start cropping up with similar issues in their later years in life. But everyone that's working in a refinery is essentially slow death I believe, poo poo I see it whenever I drive into Corpus. Diesel fumes, oil fumes, wildfire smoke, burnpit smoke, ozone, silica dust, any of the numerous "zenes" (benezene or others) Pesticides, fertilizers. Any fine particulates can really mess you up. It could also depend on the... area or plant in question. Like living downstream of the prevailing winds of a refinery would be an issue. Or living near an area where the drinking water comes from a ground well near an older military base. We've come quite a ways on the last 20-40 years, and particulates in general are getting more and more of a closer look. Ground water quality is also getting a closer look as well. Because it turns out just dumping things onto and in the ground in the 1950s thru 1970s wasn't such a great idea either. Microplastics and PFASis the latest/greatest thing, but I expect we'll have to wait for more to come out on that. Getting back to the topic of chromium. Good ventlilation at a minmum. And it's better to have routine monitoring and testing for exposure to those heavy metals. But it depends quite a lot on what you're welding, what process you're using, and your welding material. https://www.hse.gov.uk/research/rrpdf/rr770.pdf Kith posted:Edit: Why the suit is necessary safety equipment: In the second video... some places will make you wear the suit if racking in/out. However, I thought there were a few cabinets/panels/buses where it is designed to handle the arc blast. (The cabinets are essetnailly capable of being pressure retaining.) And in that case the Electrician may not have to wear a full moon suit.
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