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Released on the 5 year anniversary of the election for maximum psychic damage https://twitter.com/sweet_lozenge/status/1534463531525058560
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Hardly surprising though is it In hindsight, they would've machine gunned people in the streets before letting Corbyn's Labour take power
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Ziggy Tzardust posted:Released on the 5 year anniversary of the election for maximum psychic damage This seems almost... hopeful though https://twitter.com/chriscurtis94/status/1534457003673894912
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Jun 8, 2022 11:38
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Always barbarism, never socialism.
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e: nvm it wasn't that funny
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Jun 8, 2022 11:47
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I will never not be loving furious about 2017 for as long as I live.
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Jun 8, 2022 12:19
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Guavanaut posted:I once saw a GP go on Wikipedia to look up contraindications for something he was about to prescribe. I know information's information and part of the qualification should be able to filter obvious lies and it might be more up to date than some 2kg textbook if you also read the citations but there's something off-putting about going to the Free Encyclopedia That Horse Paste Eaters Can Edit for that specifically. At least do an internal NHS branded one (I'll set up the wiki). The amount of GPs I've been to who've straight up recommended I take ibuprofen for something, and then given me a blank look when I've pointed out I have asthma. It's all the more worrying because don't they even have time to glance at history before appointments now?
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I see that both covid cases and hospital admissions have stopped decreasing and show the first signs of a possible new uptick. What are the odds the jubilee is going to have acted as bunch of superspreader events across the nation?
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Ziggy Tzardust posted:Released on the 5 year anniversary of the election for maximum psychic damage I know the game is fixed, I accept that. What really upsets me now is that even when they're telling you how they rigged the game they will point blank refuse to admit the game is rigged.
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Tesseraction posted:BUPA definitely has private GPs. They're not as easily accessible and will probably require some travelling. I used to have a subscription to a private GP service that operated on most of the London mainline stations. When I was a temp it was financially better for me to be able to get to a paid GP near work than to lose a day's pay visiting my local GP because of the system which requires you to have a GP near home rather than or as well as near work. It was also extremely useful when I started getting a dodgy heartbeat because by the time I visited my local GP it wouldn't be doing it, but it was doing it at work when I was temping one time and my boss sent me over to the private GP just a couple of minutes walk away immediately and I was strapped to the ECG and the dodgy heartbeat was picked up straight away. (Egyptian docs also picked it up because they would take my pulse for whole minute instead of 10seconds like UK ones). Friend of mine's sister aged 39 at the time had chest pain for several months, visited her GP several times, he obviously wrote her off as a 'bored neurotic housewife' and on her final visit sent her away with a couple of aspirin. She died of a massive heart attack in his carpark.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:It was also extremely useful when I started getting a dodgy heartbeat because by the time I visited my local GP it wouldn't be doing it, but it was doing it at work when I was temping one time and my boss sent me over to the private GP just a couple of minutes walk away immediately and I was strapped to the ECG and the dodgy heartbeat was picked up straight away. Jesus. I get that the GP is probably overworked but that's just malpractice. I have an ECG on Friday to tell if my faint last week is serious. Kinda wild that I fainted on the Monday, called the doctor on Monday, got a phone appointment Tuesday afternoon, which led to me booked for the next available ECG which is the Friday of the week after.
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Jun 8, 2022 12:54
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The NHS is...it's just kinda dead already, isn't it? It was never going to be just one Big Thing, it was always going to be just sorta realising it's already happened, it's already wrecked beyond repair (at least any sort of repair permissible under late capitalism/absolute regulatory capture)
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I'm more optimistic. The NHS isn't dead forever, it's just dead under Tory malevolence. I've seen enough of Starmer's actions since taking leadership and read enough of the Starmer Project to know that were he to take power he would not return to his socialist roots, the best we can hope for is he stops the deliberate poisoning of the NHS, not because of ideological reasons but for political expedience. Hopefully also maybe press regulation? Or will he be like every other dickhead and think that he's either immune to the press or that they'll back him uncritically.
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Thinking about PFI. I can't remember how long these payments were going to go on for - my brain is telling me it was 60 years from about 25-30 years ago. I was thinking how would it be if a new govt (coz obviously the tories won't do it, without a doubt tory cronies amongst others making too many £poonds out of it) said "we're going to stop paying this out and we will make a single offer to buy out the remainder of the contract" - sort of like compulsory purchase. I'm sure there must be ways and means of doing it without getting sued.
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^^^ or just building the cost of getting sued into the process. The second Starmer is near power he will be surrounded by lobbyists and dickheads who will easily convince him that continuing privatisation of the NHS is a good thing, because he has no beliefs or political nous except that which will keep him in what he sees as the in-crowd. And when the in crowd is Streeting & Phillips, we're not even going to see Tory lite, it's just going to be Tory.
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Tesseraction posted:I'm more optimistic. The NHS isn't dead forever, it's just dead under Tory malevolence. The fact Wes Streeting is Shadow Health Secretary should tell you all you need to know about the priority of the NHS under Kieth
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Things the NHS needs to start functioning, in no particular order: A unified funding model. It is absurd that there is no integrated way of funding treatment. Funding should be allocated retroactively (that is, the government should be charged by the NHS for treatment it conducts, regardless of whether it’s a referral). This should be separate from funding allocated proactively to cover wages, staff, buildings maintenance, and so forth. This should be reviewed periodically and surplus cash at the end of the year—if invested in non-essential QoL improvements for patients and staff—should not result in reduced funding. The end of outsourced hospital staff. I’m not talking doctors, I’m talking cleaners, porters, cafeteria staff: all the people who vastly outnumber the ‘medical’ staff but who are essential to a self-improving, passionate community within hospitals and surgeries. The repeal of Blair’s nonsensical ‘everyone should see a consultant’. It’s simply not practical or necessary. A well trained nurse is perfectly capable of providing medical advice and treatment in a great many non-urgent cases. We don’t have enough consultants, and Blair’s approach was simply to make it easier to be a consultant, with the resultant lack of diverse experience being held by people with that title. Pay. More pay. Established rules and processes for protecting whistleblowers. This is critical. If people can’t speak up not just about malpractice but about bullying, cultures of disrespect, and all of those other ‘community’ ills then it’s hosed. It’s a nohoper because it will allow arseholes to profit. Hospitals should be managed by a triumvirate of someone with business acumen who understands how to spend money, a senior longstanding consultant who understands where to spend the money, and a union representative of the labour classes who stand to (theoretically) benefit to understand if the money is being spent well. Hospitals are not for-profit organisations, but that doesn’t mean the spending habits can’t be scrutinised. Anyway none of this will ever happen so whatever
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Tesseraction posted:I'm more optimistic. The NHS isn't dead forever, it's just dead under Tory malevolence. I also think the NHS is hosed, because even if they get in the Labour Right will never undo the damage the Tories have done; at best, they'll freeze things as they are (poo poo). Then when the Tories get back into power, they can carry right on with the wrecking.
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forkboy84 posted:The fact Wes Streeting is Shadow Health Secretary should tell you all you need to know about the priority of the NHS under Kieth Reminds me of my mentor at my last job when I asked if he was voting Labour in 2015 (I was wavering between Greens and Labour because I'm a swing constituency) and he said he's not voting Labour because "they've got loving Ed Balls as chancellor" Wes Streeting is the Ed Balls of Starmer
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I mean you saw this with how the Labour Right responded to poo poo like "nationalised energy companies" with "what next, free oxygen?!!?!"
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And yet it remains popular with the public from zoomer leftists to gammon nationalists.
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I mean pointing out that the French government partially owns and thus profits from our privatised energy system kinda highlights how nationally cucked we are by Tory policy.
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Tesseraction posted:Reminds me of my mentor at my last job when I asked if he was voting Labour in 2015 (I was wavering between Greens and Labour because I'm a swing constituency) and he said he's not voting Labour because "they've got loving Ed Balls as chancellor" I'm not sure this applies because Starmer's actual chancellor is, if anything, worse than Streeting. Rachel Reeves should be one of the strongest arguments against letting Labour anywhere near power.
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What bugs me is an acquaintance who is a rabid tory has a degenerative disease that is never going to improve and is rendering him year by year more and more immobile and who seems not to understand that in a privatised system ain't no insurance company going to insure him! He even ranted about actor Liz Carr (I think it was - she was Clarissa in Silent Witness) writing about lack of help to get a mobility car on the grounds that he had to pay for his own hearing aids because NHS ones weren't good enough so people needing mobility cars should pay for their own. He's now not far off needing a specially adapted mobility car himself at some extreme expense he can't possibly afford - and anyway I think they're on leases (I'm sure another friend who has one only gets to lease hers) ISTBC on that point!
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Darth Walrus posted:I'm not sure this applies because Starmer's actual chancellor is, if anything, worse than Streeting. Rachel Reeves should be one of the strongest arguments against letting Labour anywhere near power. Oh she's a piece of poo poo for sure, but Wes Streeting is glowing nuclear dogshit.
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Tesseraction posted:I mean pointing out that the French government partially owns and thus profits from our privatised energy system kinda highlights how nationally cucked we are by Tory policy. Cool to remember too that the German government owns 90% of rail freight in the UK, and the German, Dutch and French between them own the majority of the passenger rail services. I imagine energy and rails aren't the only examples, but they're the two that tend to come up. Wonder how much of British telecoms is owned by foreign state companies.
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1534507008937930758 Here comes the wave of “nevertheless…”
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Virgin Media would be joint-run by the Spanish government if they hadn't privatised Telefonica.
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TACD posted:https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1534507008937930758 Fine. Let him continue being the albatross. The feathered oval office.
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Jeherrin posted:Things the NHS needs to start functioning, in no particular order: but have you considered going private
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Netflix NHS - you sit there scrolling through things for half-an-hour, looking for the treatment you need, can't find anything and give up and go to sleep (die).
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Dead Goon posted:Netflix NHS - you sit there scrolling through things for half-an-hour, looking for the treatment you need, can't find anything and give up and go to sleep (die). After several months your knee injury flares up again. You return to NetflixHS to find out that the treatment that you need has been removed and put on Disease Plus, a rival health service you don't have access to. You die.
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They just cancelled my lifesaving treatment because they had to pay one doctor to say a bunch of mad poo poo.
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Guavanaut posted:Quetzaldepfeffel 
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