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Meaty Ore posted:I myself always pictured him as essentially identical to the writer from A Clockwork Orange. 
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Kchama posted:Just watching it for the articles, huh? Did you actually need me to explain my sentence to you or are you just trying to be funny? I suspect incest content was showing up in hentai before it became popular in western erotica. Perhaps it was even influential.
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jackofarcades posted:Did you actually need me to explain my sentence to you or are you just trying to be funny? Oedipus Rex was first performed around 429 BC. European nobility was inbreeding for centuries. Somehow I think incest elements in fiction may predate hentai or anime in general.
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quote is not edit;Randalor posted:Oedipus Rex was first performed around 429 BC. European nobility was inbreeding for centuries. Somehow I think incest elements in fiction may predate hentai or anime in general. Yeah but this stuff was played for drama or horror, I can think of plenty of examples of this; it's recently come to be more "erotic" in line with the rise of the step-porn dominating those websites.
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jackofarcades posted:Did you actually need me to explain my sentence to you or are you just trying to be funny? Anime is a 20th century invention based off of French art style though.
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rodbeard posted:Anime is a 20th century invention based off of French art style though. I thought Disney was to blame for anime though?
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There are cave paintings that are designed to shift with the flickering of firelight --possibly an early form of animation. Or, anime, if you will.
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I mean if you look at smut novels from the 70s it’s possible a majority of those are incest themed. As to the why of it, I dunno.
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Meaty Ore posted:
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Maxwell Lord posted:I mean if you look at smut novels from the 70s it’s possible a majority of those are incest themed. It's a fetish that if it's present and you're into it, it does it for you, and if you're not into it, it's easy enough to ignore and you can just enjoy the attractive people. That is most certainly not true of all fetishes, where if it's there you either love it or are actively repulsed by it.
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the thing is, before the internet there was no such thing as weird fetish porn. you couldn't have it mailed to you, you didn't see it at the back of convenience stores, there certainly weren't jokes about it in popular media
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You definitely didn't just find it in the woods or anything.
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There is a case to be made that mainstream media had more coded fetish poo poo in an era when there were fewer channels to just revel in it openly. I’ve been reading Chris Claremont’s X-Men run and have been shocked a few times at the displays of bdsm stuff. The weird horny of old science fiction is probably sublimated fetishes seeking expression to some degree.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You definitely didn't just find it in the woods or anything. But when you found it there was definitely wood around
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Randalor posted:Oedipus Rex was first performed around 429 BC. European nobility was inbreeding for centuries. Somehow I think incest elements in fiction may predate hentai or anime in general. Yes but Oedipus was so horrified by what he had done he gouged his eyes out. He didn’t buy a dryer for his wife-mom to fall into.
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I think another reason that fetish seems so common is that producers can just tack it on to any existing video for free by just adding some words to the title of the video. You don't actually need to get your actors to perform anything differently
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Winty posted:I think another reason that fetish seems so common is that producers can just tack it on to any existing video for free by just adding some words to the title of the video. You don't actually need to get your actors to perform anything differently Are they sisters? Coworkers? Step-parent and step-child? Who cares, one of their boobs is in the other one's mouth, enjoy!
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BioEnchanted posted:Are they sisters? Coworkers? Step-parent and step-child? Who cares, one of their boobs is in the other one's mouth, enjoy! Ouroboobos
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Push El Burrito posted:Ouroboobos There's a joke there about the XCom2 Snake enemies, but I can't make it.
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Samovar posted:There's a joke there about the XCom2 Snake enemies, but I can't make it. Can't or won't, you coward.
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And then there’s the Folger’s commercial. You know. That one. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gq.com/story/folgers-incest-ad-oral-history/amp The actual story is kind of wholesome.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:And then there’s the Folger’s commercial. You know. That one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhfcWTZeP1k
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Man. Macoldy Colkin had some dark years but him being a sister is good call.
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Cleretic posted:What I'm mostly getting from that is that I should be picturing de Sade as essentially identical to that super fat capo in JoJo part 5, though. So what you're saying is Sade could morph himself into a sofa.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:So what you're saying is Sade could morph himself into a sofa. What a smooth operator.
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The Black Stones posted:Yes but Oedipus was so horrified by what he had done he gouged his eyes out. He didn’t buy a dryer for his wife-mom to fall into. Well maybe not in the version your class read
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I don't know how true this is, but I read in an article critiquing the monomyth that in a load of versions Oedipus never actually slept with Jocasta. It's just that we got the play as our primary source and it features the incest plot.
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Does he still gouge out his eyes in those versions because tbh that seems like an overreaction
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A Seinfeld episode that aged weirdly: I just randomly came across the episode where Elaine's boyfriend shaves his head and everyone is just amazed that someone would do that.
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Alhazred posted:A Seinfeld episode that aged weirdly: I just randomly came across the episode where Elaine's boyfriend shaves his head and everyone is just amazed that someone would do that. Specifically because they think he has a full head of hair otherwise
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Baldness became fashionable for action heroes right as boomer wrestlers started getting old.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Baldness became fashionable for action heroes right as boomer wrestlers started getting old. I'd say Bruce Willis had more of a hand in it than wrestlers
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quote:Oedipus It's weird how Oedipus became the patron saint of intentional mother/son incest, when he didn't know she was his mom and finding out she was his mom caused her to kill herself and him to blind himself.
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Schubalts posted:It's weird how Oedipus became the patron saint of intentional mother/son incest, when he didn't know she was his mom and finding out she was his mom caused her to kill herself and him to blind himself. I think it’s about the idea of just finding your mother attractive. That idea is stupid though because Oedipus A) didn’t know she was his mother as you mentioned, and B) she was the previous King’s wife. So Oedipus was pretty much flexing where he was like “Wife of previous king? Sure this makes things easier” It’s more like whoever created the Oedipus Complex idea didn’t think it through very hard and these days everyone knows to toss out all their ideas.
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I mean Freud was on a lot of cocaine
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Josef bugman posted:I don't know how true this is, but I read in an article critiquing the monomyth that in a load of versions Oedipus never actually slept with Jocasta. It's just that we got the play as our primary source and it features the incest plot. Yeah, I've been reading a lot about folklore in the past few years and that's true of most stories and myths - there are a lot of variations, but only a few/one got written down and given canon status. So any arguments about inherent human traits that are based on particular instances of these stories are extremely suspect. Freud came up with his ideas in a time in European folklore research where it was still popular to think of folktales as degenerated remnants of a truer initial myths.
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Someday some fanfics and other dumb internet things will be ivory twoer grownup serious business topics of study.
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PhazonLink posted:Someday some fanfics and other dumb internet things will be ivory twoer grownup serious business topics of study. Like Twilight?
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PhazonLink posted:Someday some fanfics and other dumb internet things will be ivory twoer grownup serious business topics of study. Too late
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