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Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
I don't suppose I can just buy the cards instead of all the other stuff?

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GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

It's like $60 to get the cheapest versions of all them, and a bit over half of that is just Old Gnawbones.

Now someone tell me what these ampersand promos are and why Tiamat would go from $11 to over $900 as one.

They were only available in like 20 stores in the entire US or something insanely low like that, it was during COVID so less people going out, and you had to pay $30 for one random "&" promo Rare/Mythic.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

Release the Kraken

Framboise posted:

I don't suppose I can just buy the cards instead of all the other stuff?

What does your heart tell you?

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes

Framboise posted:

I don't suppose I can just buy the cards instead of all the other stuff?

you'll always be able to buy singles after the fact yes

Dysgenesis
Jul 12, 2012

HAVE AT THEE!


I like magic cards. I have even bought quite a few secret lairs because I like shiny or weird cards.

I won't pay a huge markup for a thing I don't want in a *checks notes* sleek foam fitted case.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

kalel posted:

well somebody should tell that to the devs of arena (aka most new players' point of entry to the game) and mtgo.

honestly your conclusion is counter-intuitive. The rules listed don't explicitly say that undoing the illegal spell/ability is the only time you're allowed to undo mana abilities. They just say that, in the case of an illegal play involving mana abilities, those abilities are allowed to be reversed.

I'm not going to scour the rules for an item that states "you cannot undo mana abilities" or "you can undo mana abilities if X Y and/or Z" but, intuitively speaking, any action that is deterministic (e.g. one that does not reveal new information) ought to be reversible.

But the die roll reveals new information by the nature of being a die roll lol

Reynold
Feb 14, 2012

Suffer not the unclean to live.
Yeah I blow plenty of money cracking packs from new sets because the GF and I enjoy the hunt and homebrewing. I buy Secret Lairs that I think are cool, and I buy sealed product to resell at a profit at a later date. I throw a lot of money at dumb hobbies. The B&G stuff is just bonkers though. I see they didn't sell out of their $500 backpack and some deck boxes bundle from Neon Kamigawa yet.

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

Charity Porno posted:

But the die roll reveals new information by the nature of being a die roll lol

yes I agree. the die roll thing means that it can't be a normal mana ability, it must only be able to be activated as an instant because it's not reversible. otherwise they'd have to write an exception into the rules for the specific ability and that is dumb imho

instantrunoffvote
Jul 23, 2007

kalel posted:

yes I agree. the die roll thing means that it can't be a normal mana ability, it must only be able to be activated as an instant because it's not reversible. otherwise they'd have to write an exception into the rules for the specific ability and that is dumb imho

Isn't chromatic sphere a mana ability? That has the same sort of problems in terms of the mana ability revealing information.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

instantrunoffvote posted:

Isn't chromatic sphere a mana ability? That has the same sort of problems in terms of the mana ability revealing information.

You don’t get the card until you’re done paying mana with sphere: https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=46046

Ultima66
Sep 2, 2008

I'm pretty sure rewinding game state to intentionally reach a result due to quirks of how rewinding works is not actually something judges would accept in a tournament even if the rules write it out that way. At least, that is the conclusion to a really old question I remember being sent in to a judge podcast at one point. The question was about these cards:



It was basically asking, assuming that you had a creature you wanted to get rid of for whatever reason (like Dark Confidant when you're at 1 life), was it legal to attempt to cast Altar's Reap on your opponent's end step with no mana available. He pointed out in the rulebook that it instructs players to pay all non-mana costs for spells first before paying mana, which means you would sacrifice Dark Confidant first, and then upon reaching the step of casting a spell where they would need to spend mana, they would be unable to produce the mana and then rewind the game state to before attempting to cast the spell. However, Wheel puts the creature on the bottom of library when sacrificed, and once in the library the creature is in a hidden zone, and they also pointed to the rule saying it was not possible to rewind a game state if things are moving between library and play like that, so if a rewind of game state were to take place you wouldn't rewind that zone change.

The judges listening to the question said "if you tried to pull this at a real event, the judges would just DQ you." Judging policy at the time the question was asked is different since it's been over 10 years I think, but I feel like generally speaking you're still not allowed to take advantage of corner cases of rules on rewinding actions to reach a game state that you wouldn't normally be able to reach.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
E: nevermind

LeafHouse
Apr 22, 2008

That's what you get for not hailing to the chimp!



The saddest part is that the card sucks even when you cheat on the rolls.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





someone leaked emrakul for 2x2

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?
Did emrakul become a mushroom?

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

ilmucche posted:

Did emrakul become a mushroom?

*distorts time and space*

always has been

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

ilmucche posted:

Did emrakul become a mushroom?

Can you feel your heart burning? Can you feel the struggle within? The fear within me is beyond anything your soul can make. You cannot kill me in a way that matters.

serefin99
Apr 15, 2016

Mikoooon~
Your lovely shrine maiden fox wife, Tamamo no Mae, is here to help!

A big flaming stink posted:

Can you feel your heart burning? Can you feel the struggle within? The fear within me is beyond anything your soul can make. You cannot kill me in a way that matters.

I'M NOT loving SCARED OF YOU

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

ilmucche posted:

Did emrakul become a mushroom?

She's always been sort of a mycoid in form. The eldrazi titans have always had a "style" to their bodies and spawn. Emrakul is that of a sort of fungus resembling a mushroom.

MasterBuilder
Sep 30, 2008
Oven Wrangler
Looks like an angel from NeoGen.

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

MasterBuilder posted:

Looks like an angel from NeoGen.

A Cruel Eldrazi's Thesis

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
You must pilot the net.dec Shinji!

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

You must pilot the net.dec Shinji!

Crew the loving vehicle, Shinji

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

HootTheOwl posted:

Crew the loving vehicle, Shinji

:vince:

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

HootTheOwl posted:

Crew the loving vehicle, Shinji

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

HootTheOwl posted:

Crew the loving vehicle, Shinji

Dysgenesis
Jul 12, 2012

HAVE AT THEE!


I would have preferred a nulamog and numrakul reprint.

Not new kozilek though. He sucks*


*actually I like him

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Just an end of the week reminder that Dbl Masters 2022 Collector booster pack box only has FOUR packs in it.


Come now Picard you must give in.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Looking forward to the mythics I pull from these packs being the 2018 Commander Walkers.

Ghislaine of YOSPOS
Apr 19, 2020

Butcher of Truth is the coolest honorific ever put on a magic card. is honorific the right word here?

Defeatist Elitist
Jun 17, 2012

I've got a carbon fixation.

Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:

Butcher of Truth is the coolest honorific ever put on a magic card. is honorific the right word here?

Epithet is probably closer to what you want, but I think most people would understand if you said "honorific".

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:

Butcher of Truth is the coolest honorific ever put on a magic card. is honorific the right word here?

It's actually a nickname. In most style guides, he would be Kozilek "Butcher of Truth" Eldrazi

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



HootTheOwl posted:

Crew the loving vehicle, Shinji

:perfect:

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:

Butcher of Truth is the coolest honorific ever put on a magic card. is honorific the right word here?

The Great Creator is way better because now you can't imagine Karn without a GOLF hat

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

HootTheOwl posted:

Crew the loving vehicle, Shinji

Nissa is worthy of Chandra's grace.

coelomate
Oct 21, 2020


Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Looking forward to the mythics I pull from these packs being the 2018 Commander Walkers.

I adore Aminatou and she remains my one real commander deck, but it does seem like a weird low value mythic reprint.

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

coelomate posted:

I adore Aminatou and she remains my one real commander deck, but it does seem like a weird low value mythic reprint.

it's unregulated gambling for children Booster Fun, there needs to be a fail state for there to be stakes.

MasterBuilder
Sep 30, 2008
Oven Wrangler
If it's the same card as the commander card isn't this the first time that Aminatou will be in modern? And in non foil. What the chance that an admittedly color difficult 3 mana planswalker will cause issues.

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

MasterBuilder posted:

If it's the same card as the commander card isn't this the first time that Aminatou will be in modern? And in non foil. What the chance that an admittedly color difficult 3 mana planswalker will cause issues.

It won't be modern legal, Double Masters reprints are still only legal in the formats they were in already

EDIT: With the exception that if a reprint's rarity changes to common then it becomes legal in pauper

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MasterBuilder
Sep 30, 2008
Oven Wrangler

Pablo Nergigante posted:

It won't be modern legal, Double Masters reprints are still only legal in the formats they were in already

EDIT: With the exception that if a reprint's rarity changes to common then it becomes legal in pauper

Oh I didn't realize that is how it works. I just assumed a modern product=modern legal.

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