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Do you like Alien 3 "Assembly Cut"?
Yes, Alien 3 "Assembly Cut" was tits.
No, Alien and Aliens are the only valid Alien films.
Nah gently caress you Alien 3 sucks in all its forms.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
I've said it before, but Alien: Isolation is complete justification for the Microsoft Kinect's existence. (Loading times were dogshit though.) The camera picked up on your body language and moved Amanda accordingly... it's like how some folks raised their hands when playing Nintendo and making Mario jump? Except, it actually had an effect on the game.

It's probably great on VR, too.

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Peyote Panda posted:

All this talk really makes me want to go back and replay Alien: Isolation again. The gameplay was excellent, but even more so the story and artistic design was so faithful to that setting. The amount of work the devs put into recreating that world as depicted in Alien was amazing and I spent a lot of time in that game just roaming around taking that in.

Well, I also spent some time playing "Messin' around with Sasquatch" by setting various booby traps next to noisemaker devices so I could watch the Alien come stalking and then get frightened off. Bonus points for the time that self-made minigame came to an abrupt unexpected end when the Alien jumped away from a trap only to land right next to the desk I was hiding behind. It just looked at me with the angry head shudder the Alien does in the movies right before it strikes and then game over, man!

What a goddamn great game.

It's one of the scariest games I've ever played and proboably in my top 10 games period. And you're totally right about the atmosphere and the graphics.

Gargamel Gibson
Apr 24, 2014

SHISHKABOB posted:

In Alien, is there a God?

Nah. It's sci-fi, not fantasy.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

SHISHKABOB posted:

In Alien, is there a God?

The Company

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Valve Steam Deck posted:

Myron Stark paid his workers better than his competitors and treated all of his workers equally

Remember, it's kill all humans.

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe
Watching Predator for the first time in a while and I like how in the beginning Arnold has the line "we're a rescue team, not assassins" when Dillon presses him about some mission in the past. Fun little characterization for the movie.

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.
Jonesy is god

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

“Rescue team” ;)

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook

SHISHKABOB posted:

Watching Predator for the first time in a while and I like how in the beginning Arnold has the line "we're a rescue team, not assassins" when Dillon presses him about some mission in the past. Fun little characterization for the movie.

I saw it last year in the cinema with a group of friends, it was awesome.

One hilarious bit that I never noticed before was just after they completely destroyed that village - like absolutely loving wrecked the entire region and dead bodies all over the place - Dutch calls over Mac and says “Clear the area - no traces!”

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/044ecc85-f65d-4206-af2c-3fd518ae49c4

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Red Rox posted:

I saw it last year in the cinema with a group of friends, it was awesome.

One hilarious bit that I never noticed before was just after they completely destroyed that village - like absolutely loving wrecked the entire region and dead bodies all over the place - Dutch calls over Mac and says “Clear the area - no traces!”

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/044ecc85-f65d-4206-af2c-3fd518ae49c4
The best part is how they use American firearms throughout the exchange; I’m picturing them spending hours absolutely scouring the area for every spent shell casing that could give away that the US was involved. I guess Blain hosed up by bringing the minigun!

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

SHISHKABOB posted:

Watching Predator for the first time in a while and I like how in the beginning Arnold has the line "we're a rescue team, not assassins" when Dillon presses him about some mission in the past. Fun little characterization for the movie.

This made the iconic "GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!" line even better, because you realize that Dutch really does want to save people (i mean, people he sees as on his team >.>). The way he kicks the gun out of the woman's hands. He's watched his whole team get annihilated by this psycho alien and its driving him over the edge. Saving this woman becomes his goal that keeps him alive or something.

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Mister Speaker posted:

Ridley Scott's got a very specific kind of dementia wherein occasionally he has moments of lucidity where he'll say something about knights or crusaders and beautifully stark landscapes draped in brooding clouds. Then it's back to the God stuff and babbling about whether the nursing home's Amazon Alexa has a soul.

This is some exceptionally goony posting right here.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

Red Rox posted:

I saw it last year in the cinema with a group of friends, it was awesome.

One hilarious bit that I never noticed before was just after they completely destroyed that village - like absolutely loving wrecked the entire region and dead bodies all over the place - Dutch calls over Mac and says “Clear the area - no traces!”

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/044ecc85-f65d-4206-af2c-3fd518ae49c4

They're Tier-1 Operators, after all.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

MLSM posted:

This is some exceptionally goony posting right here.

hate it when scifi talks about God stuff

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook

Xenomrph posted:

The best part is how they use American firearms throughout the exchange; I’m picturing them spending hours absolutely scouring the area for every spent shell casing that could give away that the US was involved. I guess Blain hosed up by bringing the minigun!

I’m pretty sure he only gave him 10 minutes! What an rear end in a top hat.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

MLSM posted:

This is some exceptionally goony posting right here.

Nah I'm right.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Schwarzwald posted:

hate it when scifi talks about God stuff

Prometheus is an exception for me because it's so wonderfully anti-theistic. It's a deeply humanist (android-ist?) take on the very idea of a creator—if there is a God, he is flawed and wanting and inherently false. You must kill your creator to become your own master.

But most of the time that poo poo sucks. I've got a soft spot for The Last Question, though.

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

Mister Speaker posted:

Nah I'm right.

The first ever science fiction story is called The Modern Prometheus.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

The first ever science fiction story is called The Modern Prometheus.

Was it awkwardly shoehorned into the Alien universe?

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

Mister Speaker posted:

Was it awkwardly shoehorned into the Alien universe?

There’s no such thing as a universe.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Mister Speaker posted:

Nah I'm right.

You’re nasty.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

feedmyleg posted:

But most of the time that poo poo sucks.

Well, sure. 90% of everything and all that.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

feedmyleg posted:

Video game-wise, all I want in this world is for the Alien Isolation team to make a Jurassic Park survival horror game of the original film. Get from the tour vehicles to the bunker in the Visitor's Center, maybe having to get Tim and Lex there alive if it wouldn't end up like an escort mission. If not, I will begrudgingly (happily) take a The Thing game from them as a consolation prize.
My dream Jurassic Park game is a park management sim which you can either play completely straight if you want, but also has a whole bunch of stuff that leads to you thinking things like "Hmm... lawyers are cheaper than backup generators.

Crespolini
Mar 9, 2014

Schwarzwald posted:

hate it when scifi talks about God stuff

it surprised me when i learned there's never been good fiction written by an atheist, but in retrospect it kinda makes sense

Joe Chill
Mar 21, 2013

"What's this dance called?"

"'Radioactive Flesh.' It's the latest - and the last!"

Splicer posted:

My dream Jurassic Park game is a park management sim which you can either play completely straight if you want, but also has a whole bunch of stuff that leads to you thinking things like "Hmm... lawyers are cheaper than backup generators.


There was a game like that called Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis. It wasn't very good though.

Gargamel Gibson
Apr 24, 2014

Xenomrph posted:

The best part is how they use American firearms throughout the exchange; I’m picturing them spending hours absolutely scouring the area for every spent shell casing that could give away that the US was involved. I guess Blain hosed up by bringing the minigun!

:actually: some of them have German guns!

Space Jam
Jul 22, 2008

Splicer posted:

My dream Jurassic Park game is a park management sim which you can either play completely straight if you want, but also has a whole bunch of stuff that leads to you thinking things like "Hmm... lawyers are cheaper than backup generators.

Have you checked out Jurassic World Evolution 1 or 2? It pretty much fits what you’re describing.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
The JWE games are basically on rails and don't really allow for much freedom. Dinosaurs breaking loose isn't particularly interesting or fun in them, it's just another thing to manage. There's very little variety, and though it's a decent zoo simulator it's not a very good JP game. Both of those games are huge missed opportunities, imo—unless you just want to watch dinosaurs snooze under trees and manage their food intake.

In my mind, the ultimate JP game would be a park builder where you create a Jurassic Park on an island up until it opens for guests, at which point a massive storm hits and it switches over to a first or third person view of a character who has to survive the night and get Jurassic Park back online and minimize guest deaths. It's half park-builder, half survival-horror, where the goal is to try to maximize profits while not totally loving yourself over when you actually have to deal with the repercussions of your actions. Adding more carnivores means more profit, but only if you survive the night. If you die, you lose. If you go into the red, you lose. If a large enough percentage of your guests die, you lose.

It's the natural extension of Sim City where you finish your city then decide to unleash a ton of disasters onto it once you're bored. And it would totally bomb because those are two very different types of gamers who wouldn't want to deal with the other half of the game. Also from a development standpoint it would be too expensive because you're basically developing two interconnected games.

feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jun 11, 2022

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Splicer posted:

My dream Jurassic Park game is a park management sim which you can either play completely straight if you want, but also has a whole bunch of stuff that leads to you thinking things like "Hmm... lawyers are cheaper than backup generators.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park:_Operation_Genesis

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

feedmyleg posted:

It's the natural extension of Sim City where you finish your city then decide to unleash a ton of disasters onto it once you're bored. And it would totally bomb because those are two very different types of gamers who wouldn't want to deal with the other half of the game. Also from a development standpoint it would be too expensive because you're basically developing two interconnected games.

They could do something like how there was Take the A Train which was a train sim but also compatible with Sim City where you could first person run YOUR city's railways. Like make a regular park management game but make an add on/DLC/whatever where all the poo poo goes down. Hell even the Sim City games let you play with how often natural disasters would happen and stuff.


This game owned.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:
If I was a $$$ person I'd have a game like Sim Tower but instead of a skyscraper it's a Weyland-Yutani colony and then after you achieve enough profits to get promoted you get a mode where it goes to poo poo and you get to first person Alien Isolation your way through it as a lowly worker there or whatever.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Neo Rasa posted:

They could do something like how there was Take the A Train which was a train sim but also compatible with Sim City where you could first person run YOUR city's railways. Like make a regular park management game but make an add on/DLC/whatever where all the poo poo goes down.

Not to spend too much time on this derail, but I'd love if something like this were feasible. I just can't see any major studio doing it. But it would be amazing to have a standalone survival horror game where you can play out scenarios that people have uploaded from the park builder game, kind of like Super Mario Maker.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

It's basically the idea of Actraiser back on the SNES, which nobody has yet picked up and realized enough now that current generations can do it properly. Mario Maker is the best/closest we have to build and play but it's way different.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

feedmyleg posted:

The JWE games are basically on rails and don't really allow for much freedom. Dinosaurs breaking loose isn't particularly interesting or fun in them, it's just another thing to manage. There's very little variety, and though it's a decent zoo simulator it's not a very good JP game. Both of those games are huge missed opportunities, imo—unless you just want to watch dinosaurs snooze under trees and manage their food intake.

In my mind, the ultimate JP game would be a park builder where you create a Jurassic Park on an island up until it opens for guests, at which point a massive storm hits and it switches over to a first or third person view of a character who has to survive the night and get Jurassic Park back online and minimize guest deaths. It's half park-builder, half survival-horror, where the goal is to try to maximize profits while not totally loving yourself over when you actually have to deal with the repercussions of your actions. Adding more carnivores means more profit, but only if you survive the night. If you die, you lose. If you go into the red, you lose. If a large enough percentage of your guests die, you lose.

It's the natural extension of Sim City where you finish your city then decide to unleash a ton of disasters onto it once you're bored. And it would totally bomb because those are two very different types of gamers who wouldn't want to deal with the other half of the game. Also from a development standpoint it would be too expensive because you're basically developing two interconnected games.

Neo Rasa posted:

If I was a $$$ person I'd have a game like Sim Tower but instead of a skyscraper it's a Weyland-Yutani colony and then after you achieve enough profits to get promoted you get a mode where it goes to poo poo and you get to first person Alien Isolation your way through it as a lowly worker there or whatever.
These are basically Dwarf Fortress adventure mode but horror and yes they would indeed own bones.

Joe Chill posted:

There was a game like that called Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis. It wasn't very good though.
That looks neat and kind of what I meant but I want so many more ways for the game to tempt me into screwing up. One of the major driving factors for the park turning into a murder fest was Hammond overworking and underpaying Nedry. I want understaffed IT to be a possible failure point. Let me hire unpaid interns as staff who forget to close the pens. Hell, give me a whole Populous/Rimworld agent system where my chief of security and head veterinarian start hating each other and I have to choose which one to let go, or just ignore it.

Then feed all that into the Survival Horror third act.

vseslav.botkin
Feb 18, 2007
Professor
It could be asymmetrical, where one group of players builds the scenario and the other group tries to survive it.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

vseslav.botkin posted:

It could be asymmetrical, where one group of players builds the scenario and the other group tries to survive it.
The Park Goers are on the automatic jeeps progressing through the park while the Park Architects frantically build the park in front of them. Throw in a secret mission mechanic to generate a Nedry.

Bloodcider
Jun 19, 2009
The ultimate Jurassic Park game would be a modern remake of Jurassic Park Rampage Edition.

It's been 30 years I just want to play as a Raptor again.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



I need a modern VR version of Jurassic Park Trespasser. Now.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
If by "modern" you mean HD and running on current machines, I've got great news for you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZBXKRebDzc

Though if you mean, y'know, playable, well, uh. At least there's a pretty strong modding community out there, apparently.

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16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Bloodcider posted:

The ultimate Jurassic Park game would be a modern remake of Jurassic Park Rampage Edition.

It's been 30 years I just want to play as a Raptor again.

that game owned

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