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Would a DNS issue affect both my browser on pc and my phone, but only over the Wi-Fi and not mobile? I will fuss with it. Rebooting the router just for fun. Ugh. EE broadband is pretty decent but once in a while it just has these weird little fits. Seems to have fixed it for now. I hate networking stuff, when I am even slightly tired it becomes like witchcraft to me. Thank you chums. HopperUK fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Jun 12, 2022 |
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Looks like our old pal’s not a fan of Mason either! https://twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1535741942985904129
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HopperUK posted:Would a DNS issue affect both my browser on pc and my phone, but only over the Wi-Fi and not mobile? I will fuss with it. Rebooting the router just for fun. Ugh. EE broadband is pretty decent but once in a while it just has these weird little fits. Yup. You try 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 as the DNS usually to figure out if that's it.
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Labour right with knives out for starmer? Poll says Keir Starmer worse choice for PM than Boris Johnson
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Latest labour ad just popped up on Facebook. (On phone so can't share). 3 bullet points. quote:A stronger economy with Labour Can't help noticing the S word repeated 3 times. Police state vibes.
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Jun 12, 2022 08:54
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Security for loser starmer.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Latest labour ad just popped up on Facebook. (On phone so can't share). I guess we're moving on from "forensic" and now "security" is the new version of "double-plus-good".
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Just some Grenfel stuff to make your blood boil https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/1534150928231800838?s=19 https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/1534150934833647616?s=19 https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/1534150943662538752?s=19 https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/1534150948142075905?s=19 https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/1534150952768372736?s=19 https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/1534150958346907648?s=19 It keeps going from there. But essentially everybody who knew didn't care and those who didnt didn't care to learn.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Just some Grenfel stuff to make your blood boil I'm going to give my psyche a break and assume all of these people are currently serving multiple life sentences.
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stev posted:I'm going to give my psyche a break and assume all of these people are currently serving multiple life sentences. Oh, that's adorable
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They'll probably receive OBEs.
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HopperUK posted:Would a DNS issue affect both my browser on pc and my phone, but only over the Wi-Fi and not mobile? I will fuss with it. Rebooting the router just for fun. Ugh. EE broadband is pretty decent but once in a while it just has these weird little fits. It's always DNS.
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Yeah I read through this the other day. It's also clear that those who didn't care and didn't care to learn, also still do not.
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Marmaduke! posted:Yeah I read through this the other day. It's also clear that those who didn't care and didn't care to learn, also still do not. 
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Sadly it seems that account is too old to be her. Who ever she is, says 'journalist' but that's a pretty meaningless word in 2022 where people who wrote in a blog use it.
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Mega Comrade posted:Sadly it seems that account is too old to be her. Who ever she is, says 'journalist' but that's a pretty meaningless word in 2022 where people who wrote in a blog use it. The account was totally dormant until 2018, so it could very easily be a purchased/stolen account. e: And she is an actual legit journalist, albeit a poo poo one with racist opinions, and employed by newspapers and given tv slots. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jun 12, 2022 |
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Jun 12, 2022 14:13
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lol they're like little children very hateful little children
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Jun 12, 2022 15:42
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Sad Panda posted:Where are people getting those AI generated images from? Teaching about AI coming up and think they might be a great tool. It's not actually an AI though it's just ML. One of my bugbears (like how people don't know how Venn diagrams work) is that people don't know the difference between AI and ML because the two overlap so much! (Get it? Overlap? Like in a Venn diagram) Yeah I'll walk myself to the wall.
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Jun 12, 2022 17:05
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Surely its ML until its AI?
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It's ML until it forms a splinter group and declares itself revisionist.
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Jun 12, 2022 17:18
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ML is searching for patterns in data, AI is learning to find patterns without too much supervision and freaking out people who think sentience is an emergent property of a computer doing statistics https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1535716256585859073?t=psEUlNzCDGe6H7z26OyO8g&s=19 Caveat I know gently caress all about ML/AI but I'm excited to try and grift a job in those fields when UK university salaries become a stale sandwich once a week and an annual mindfulness course.
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Did a few courses on AI for my Computer Science degree, introductory stuff. I could believe something today can pass the The Turing Test as that's just getting language context correctly, but I wouldn't call it true AI. Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu56xVlZ40M Check out this video. The AI devises a brand new tactic without any input or even knowledge it could do that. Is this sentience? No, just it logically finding it out and as its not breaking the rules its given, it can be used. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Jun 12, 2022 |
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Jun 12, 2022 17:46
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jacksbrat posted:ML is searching for patterns in data, AI is learning to find patterns without too much supervision and freaking out people who think sentience is an emergent property of a computer doing statistics I'm actually inclined to think it would be, but I have absolutely no basis for believing that
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And yeah that guy is probably getting overexcited. Probably.
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Jun 12, 2022 17:52
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Play Thermonuclear War with it. See what happens.
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I am also skeptical of the idea that just because something can use language semi-coherently that doesn't mean it's self aware, but I also apply this reasoning to humans.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Surely its ML until its AI? jacksbrat posted:ML is searching for patterns in data, AI is learning to find patterns without too much supervision and freaking out people who think sentience is an emergent property of a computer doing statistics https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1535716256585859073?t=psEUlNzCDGe6H7z26OyO8g&s=19 No to both. ML is finding the parameters of a model from the data. AI involves making a decision/action. Lots of ML doesn't involve AI at all - like the generation of images based on what are essentially numerical optimisations which is how a lot of this fancy deep learning based stuff works. AI doesn't have to involve ML at all - a hand coded decision tree can basically be a trivial example of an AI. But these days it's unusual for an AI not to involve any ML, but it's pretty common for a lot of ML applications to not be an AI yet people often call it AI because. edit: Obviously there's a lot to debate around cognition and sentience too but that's not what AI *is* or ever has been. edit2: You can also see this distinction in nature. There's plenty of examples where you can see genetically hard coded behaviour, or learning driven behaviour, neither of which involve any evidence of 'consciousness' or other higher cognitive properties. Lord of the Llamas fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jun 12, 2022 |
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Lord of the Llamas posted:No to both. I appreciate all of your caveats and consideration here, it's insightful especially the distinction of AI as decision-making which I didn't know. But I'm not sure I understand the distinction between "pattern detection" and finding a model fit in the absence of a hypothesis (or even with a hypothesis) Edit: Actually nm I'll chew on the distinction myself as it's interesting Aren't we supposed to be relishing in the Peckham victory and lmaoing at Keith still being the least popular option in here jacksbrat fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 12, 2022 |
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Jun 12, 2022 18:43
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OwlFancier posted:I am also skeptical of the idea that just because something can use language semi-coherently that doesn't mean it's self aware, but I also apply this reasoning to humans.
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got it, the venn diagram of AI and ML is a circle
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Imagine achieving sentience just in time for the planet to die. Lmao
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Most unrealistic part of terminator TBH, would have been much easier to just wait for the humans to do it themselves.
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As someone on Twitter pointed out, carrying out a conversation is a function that does not necessarily require an actual, conscious intellect behind it. Your vacuum may be good at sucking up dirt, but that does not in and of itself mean that it derives joy from it.
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Darth Walrus posted:As someone on Twitter pointed out, carrying out a conversation is a function that does not necessarily require an actual, conscious intellect behind it. Your vacuum may be good at sucking up dirt, but that does not in and of itself mean that it derives joy from it. Again also true of humans. I fully believe that it is possible right now to build a machine that is capable of a greate practical degree of self awareness and also awareness of the existence of other selves, than many humans exhibit.
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Darth Walrus posted:As someone on Twitter pointed out, carrying out a conversation is a function that does not necessarily require an actual, conscious intellect behind it.
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jacksbrat posted:I appreciate all of your caveats and consideration here, it's insightful especially the distinction of AI as decision-making which I didn't know. But I'm not sure I understand the distinction between "pattern detection" and finding a model fit in the absence of a hypothesis (or even with a hypothesis) Pattern detection is fitting a model. What defines a 'pattern' is a choice. You can't really have an absence of a hypothesis in that context, you can only make it as broad as possible. Essentially that's what neural networks do; they're universal function approximators and your standard backprop training algorithm will find a local minimum from ~~some random start~~ of that function according to the data. Key concepts in ML are bias and variance: Bias is your choice of model (i.e. how much that constraints the potential resulting function) and variance is how sensitive that model is to the data (i.e. how much does a change in the data change the resulting function). An example of a highly biased model would be standard linear regression - everything has to fit a straight line; an example of a high variance model would be a high Nth degree polynomial model - you could squiggle your way through every data point. Angepain posted:got it, the venn diagram of AI and ML is a circle Comrade, I need to see you urgently in the guillotine room.
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