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I think we have a good shot at under 3. I think that will lead to escalating proxy wars in pakistan/kashmir/nepal/butan between india and china over water (irrigation vs hydroelectric). As well as fighting between Egypt and Ethiopia over the nile. All in the backdrop of heat waves killing millions and drought driven crop failures and famines killing tens of millions sporadically every few years throughout central america, north africa, the middle east and southeast asia. That in turn will lead to refugee waves in the hundreds of millions, which on simple logistical level can't really be handled any way other than massssssssive camps. In the western/wealthier world this will be much more constrained to a broad economic drag/tax (higher food prices, interrupted goods supply, higher insurance premiums) as yet another strain on the "middle" class. Punctuated by regional outlier events, like the northwest heatwave of a few years ago or the texan polar vortex near grid collapse, that occur increasingly from a few a decade, to every few years, to every year, to a few a year. The average and overall impacts are bad, but on any given year most people think they'll be fine. And when they aren't, it gives a narrative to the transition from "middle" class to "trailer" class that so many will go through. Tinyhomes and vanlife and camperforce etc, anything to not be "homeless". I think its entirely possible the system broadly holds, just that we dial up the facism to 11 around border/refugee/camps stuff. South Asia and Africa will be engulfed in war, but North America, Europe and northern Asia will mostly muddle through. The overall body count of the 2030-2050s will be probably double that of the 1930s-1950s, but so is the population. Automation and genetic engineering will let us scale the bad things that we should not for another century.
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Jun 12, 2022 18:25
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the real doom is that you can only watch
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Jun 12, 2022 18:29
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MightyBigMinus posted:I think we have a good shot at under 3. There's too many unknowns imo. Even if we switched off all emissions today, there's still a 10-year lagtime in temperature rises, and it all depends on the what horrible feedback loops might get triggered
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Jun 12, 2022 18:37
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I like how the only plausible optimistic scenarios are the product of presumed systemic failure complete with deindustrialization and mountains of bodies that results in less emissions, like when I get told that antinatalism doesn't make sense because in hell future each new person is going to put out drastically less CO2 so it doesn't make sense to argue for less of them
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Jun 12, 2022 18:46
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its sorta funny theres a police thread in GiP. guess the incentives make a crossover more likely but its makin me wonder, wheres the line. is CBP in there? immigration, etc.
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Jun 12, 2022 18:49
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Homeless Friend posted:its sorta funny theres a police thread in GiP. guess the incentives make a crossover more likely but its makin me wonder, wheres the line. is CBP in there? immigration, etc. Why the gently caress is there a gun forum, a car forum, and a babykiller forum on this site but the one goons constantly cry about it is the only halfway leftist o--wait, that's not a mystery at all
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Jun 12, 2022 18:54
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T-Paine posted:I get told that antinatalism doesn't make sense because in hell future each new person is going to put out drastically less CO2 so it doesn't make sense to argue for less of them the point was that either: A. Society doesn't change and their marginal emissions won't matter at all as feedback loops take over on our way to hot house earth. B. Society does change and thus your analysis of per-capita emissions becomes completely wrong as we shift to a decarbonized economy. claiming emissions avoidance as a benefit to not having kids isn't really accurate. the climate won't get to see any benefit from the action. it is too late for marginal reductions in out-year emissions (aka the emissions from that kid living to 70 driving ICE cars to get their iced lattes) to do anything to help the climate. now again there are other reasons to not have children, and this narrow look at emissions doesn't touch any of those. im not making any statement about the other areas of morality about the choice.
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Jun 12, 2022 18:55
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Homeless Friend posted:its sorta funny theres a police thread in GiP. guess the incentives make a crossover more likely but its makin me wonder, wheres the line. is CBP in there? immigration, etc. Vets come trained to guard a fence in the desert all day. Figure in federal benefits/pension, and sure, someone in gip is probably a border cop (or lurking). Why are you pondering this in the biosphere thread?
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Jun 12, 2022 19:03
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drake no: pic of vietnam vet being called a babykiller drake yes: pic of (**)PD being called a babykiller
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Jun 12, 2022 19:08
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(Arthur Morgan voice) How bout i ponder where i want to
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Jun 12, 2022 19:09
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Diamonds On MY Fish posted:Wait the gently caress a landlord forum? Where? BFC had a landlord thread but I think they got tired of getting invaded by posters from cspam and dnd calling them parasites and packed it in
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Jun 12, 2022 19:10
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tanker leaving the army and thanking god he never has to be in a tank again, putting in application to local pd and then....
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Jun 12, 2022 19:12
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Mayor Dave posted:BFC had a landlord thread but I think they got tired of getting invaded by posters from cspam and dnd calling them parasites and packed it in The funny thing about that particular incident is that nearly all of the posters showing up in that thread to call them bedbugs never posted in CSPAM or D&D.
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Jun 12, 2022 19:14
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T-Paine posted:are there actual pro-gun cspammers? There used to be a whole gun thread until someone made some sketchy posts and the usual crew read them in the worst faith possible
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Jun 12, 2022 19:15
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Homeless Friend posted:drake no: pic of vietnam vet being called a babykiller Cop thread got lumped in to gip because it's under the umbrella of public service. It used to be somewhere else (ask/tell, probably) but kept getting spammed out of other subforums, so they put it where no one looks. It's been in gip for like, a decade.
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Jun 12, 2022 19:17
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T-Paine posted:like when I get told that antinatalism doesn't make sense because in hell future each new person is going to put out drastically less CO2 so it doesn't make sense to argue for less of them It doesn't make sense in a similar way certain otherwise brilliant composers' Leitmotives did not make sense : one has about the same hope to meaningfully control the aesthetic abundance our species is capable of, as they would curbing its hardwired procreation drive through non-draconian means. All species unconsciously stumble into excess if unchecked, we were just one of the paltry few able to maintain that state both to insanely awesome and catastrophically deleterious effects. For a split second. Dinosaur turds helped to get really rollin' fo sho, but you can't look at our past and not conclude the markers have always been on the wall. I do have to bemol that my stoopid brein don't feel antinatalism is relevant to anything but the longer term; most of the clowns that are going to really turn this into a hosed up afterparty are already here. Go take a walk outside, as advised by the people hoping to control the excess of creativity in this here forum, I assure you, things are not that bad, yet 
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Jun 12, 2022 19:19
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Cop thread got lumped in to gip because it's under the umbrella of public service. It used to be somewhere else (ask/tell, probably) but kept getting spammed out of other subforums, so they put it where no one looks. It's been in gip for like, a decade. Cops aren't a public service ???
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Jun 12, 2022 19:22
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 paying designer prices for polyurethane ftw
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Jun 12, 2022 19:24
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he meant public servants i.e. govt dole
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Jun 12, 2022 19:26
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TeenageArchipelago posted:There was a campground that I worked at growing up that sprayed some kind of solution on the roads to keep dirt down and I can't help but wonder if it was fracking brine. It worked really well, but when I think about how widespread using fracking brine as an alternative to road salt was in the midwest it makes me really wonder about what the gently caress it was that kept a dirt road from being dusty. I was working a festival during summer that sprayed some stuff called gorilla snot all over to keep the dust down, heard it was some kind of watered down glue. https://www.buildsite.com/pdf/soilworks/Gorilla-Snot-SDS-1989339.pdf quote:Synthetic Vinyl Copolymer Dispersion yep, it's plastic. covered everything in plastic by the truck load, every day.
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Jun 12, 2022 19:32
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The cop thread in gip is anticop
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Jun 12, 2022 19:40
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police are antifa, as you can tell by their black uniforms, helmets, etc
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Jun 12, 2022 19:43
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taqueso posted:The cop thread in gip is anticop does this mean that the biosphere collapse thread is anti-biosphere collapse???? what???????
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Jun 12, 2022 19:43
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taqueso posted:The cop thread in gip is anticop sure it is
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Jun 12, 2022 19:44
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can i go into and say something like "every time a cop gets shot and killed or dies of covid or suicide i throw a little party and buy my children gifts"
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Jun 12, 2022 19:55
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so much cake these days unfortunately it means im very fat
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Jun 12, 2022 20:01
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pissinthewind posted:can i go into and say something like "every time a cop gets shot and killed or dies of covid or suicide i throw a little party and buy my children gifts" your kids must be spoiled
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Jun 12, 2022 20:07
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if you flip the word "cop" it becomes "poc" makes u think
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Jun 12, 2022 20:09
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ive been on the force for 20 years and if ive learned anything, it's that the men and women who keep us safe aren't so thin skinned that a few forum posts would get them worked up
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Jun 12, 2022 20:09
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person of cop
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Jun 12, 2022 20:10
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Hubbert posted:
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Jun 12, 2022 20:12
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Cops are the plastic of people Everywhere and loving terrible for everyone they come into contact with
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Jun 12, 2022 20:12
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MightyBigMinus posted:I think its entirely possible the system broadly holds, just that we dial up the facism to 11 around border/refugee/camps stuff. South Asia and Africa will be engulfed in war, but North America, Europe and northern Asia will mostly muddle through. The overall body count of the 2030-2050s will be probably double that of the 1930s-1950s, but so is the population. Automation and genetic engineering will let us scale the bad things that we should not for another century. they might muddle through the 2050s but mere megadeaths isn't going to change the course of emissions and, over time and inevitably, the convergence of decreasing return on energy investment requiring an ever-increasing fraction of all labor dedicated to energy production and the increasing energy demand of climate mitigations needed to make conditions survivable (literally in large chunks of india and the middle east already, but in ever expanding regions as temperatures increase) means that areas will suffer regional failures of mitigation leading to mass death events at an ever-increasing rate, but stochastically so nobody will ever be able to say with certainty 'we specifically will be dead by [x] date' and thus nothing will ever be done
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Jun 12, 2022 20:35
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MightyBigMinus posted:I think its entirely possible the system broadly holds, just that we dial up the facism to 11 around border/refugee/camps stuff. South Asia and Africa will be engulfed in war, but North America, Europe and northern Asia will mostly muddle through. The overall body count of the 2030-2050s will be probably double that of the 1930s-1950s, but so is the population. Automation and genetic engineering will let us scale the bad things that we should not for another century.
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Jun 12, 2022 20:39
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Cops are the plastic of people consistent with the micro-plastics in everyones' brains, too
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Jun 12, 2022 20:46
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the cop thread in gip is literally 100% about the crimes they commit though, nothing about it is remotely pro-cop
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Jun 12, 2022 22:04
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I am going to retire here: https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1536009561622167553?t=8x7wLz1bHUCd0WU8hetERQ&s=19
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Jun 12, 2022 22:07
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T-Paine posted:Why the gently caress is there a gun forum, a car forum, and a babykiller forum on this site but the one goons constantly cry about it is the only halfway leftist o--wait, that's not a mystery at all the most normal thing of all when people wonder why your thread is so normal is to get worked up about imagined forums wars enemies nobody else in any thread knows about
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Jun 12, 2022 22:14
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:the cop thread in gip is literally 100% about the crimes they commit though, nothing about it is remotely pro-cop quote:I just wanted to stick my head in and say that in a land where the general sentiment is very ACAB, I appreciate y'all
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Jun 12, 2022 22:15
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lol fine, like 90something%, whatever
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Jun 12, 2022 22:43
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