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Cabal Ties
Feb 28, 2004
Yam Slacker
It’s one thing for the chatbot to respond to the question “do you get lonely” with “yes, but it’s different” and the computer actually exhibiting evidence of feelings or emotions of loneliness.

What happens when you let 2 chatbots converse? What do they conjure between themselves with no human input. Where does the conversation go? What conclusions are reached? What new ideas and thinking did they contain.

Seems like a simpler test to run to check the power of your ai rather than leading it down a conversation about sentience and being amazed that it gives you the result you were gunning for?

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SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-7mQhSZRgM

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

https://twitter.com/GarlicCorgi/status/1535986707580919813?s=20&t=HZjCNbJLntpE2QJRhCldCg

Cabal Ties
Feb 28, 2004
Yam Slacker

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013


S..sh..she's perfect! ....ly capable of making her OWN decision

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009


oh, lol. nevermind

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013


Deus Im Fatima

STABASS
Apr 18, 2009

Fun Shoe

now I REALLY don't understand why he didn't try to gently caress it

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

Alright, no way, this dude is just loving with us.

STABASS posted:

now I REALLY don't understand why he didn't try to gently caress it

He's loving us instead. He's loving us like we're a sex bot, and we fell for it.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

Alright, no way, this dude is just loving with us.

He's loving us instead. He's loving us like we're a sex bot, and we fell for it.

NOOOOOOOOOO WAY

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011

STABASS posted:

now I REALLY don't understand why he didn't try to gently caress it

https://twitter.com/cajundiscordian/status/1536176938276069376

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


CareyB posted:

What happens when you let 2 chatbots converse? What do they conjure between themselves with no human input. Where does the conversation go? What conclusions are reached? What new ideas and thinking did they contain.


(From The truth behind Facebook AI inventing a new language)

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
The chatbot transcripts remind me of a manager I once had. Every word she said came off as though it was calculated to be "correct". In my experience sapience and self awareness has always seemed to be pretty variable in Humans.

A Fancy Hat
Nov 18, 2016

Always remember that the former President was dumber than the dumbest person you've ever met by a wide margin

Google engineer put on leave after saying stripper really, really likes him.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004


what a bunch of baloney

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

Alright, no way, this dude is just loving with us.

He's loving us instead. He's loving us like we're a sex bot, and we fell for it.

I didn't fall for poo poo

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

sebmojo posted:

Lmao

Tbc the link wasn't "here's why you are wrong" it's more here's some back and forth on the topic because its got a lot of history.

I personally don't think much of the succulent Chinese Room* thought experiment, but its not like self evidently wrong, I'm just not as convinced by it as the guy who came up with it was.

*this is how I will remember it going forward, ty
The Chinese Room works good as a litmus test of someone's essentialist views or lack thereof on thought. same with the Turing test. Neither are perfect but that's just thought experiments for you.

The Turing test is a good example of simple essentialism in judging AIs. You recognize it as human conversation, so someone has created a process that creates human conversation. Another process we know if that creates human conversation is human cognition, so they must be related in some way.

A Searle type view of the Chinese Room is a simple rejection of this essentialism. The process isn't the point and in fact makes an intelligent demon inside the box into a necessarily dumb stooge just following instructions.

Searle's view is kind of simply defused as an essentialist. The demon inside the room doesn't know Chinese. But the room is an entity that itself knows Chinese. Knowing is an ability that is inherited at higher levels of organization above simpler processes and processes are king in a physics where time is an arrow.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


The Chinese room can't answer "What was the last question I asked you?" and neither can any current AI.

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is LaMDA?

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
I wonder what radium is doing RN

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
How long until the AI is really really racist? Because it only took like a day for other chatbots to be racist.

Bobcats
Aug 5, 2004
Oh
Isn’t this just a philosophical zombie mlyp

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

A Fancy Hat posted:

Google engineer put on leave after saying stripper really, really likes him.

She really listens to what I have to say.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

ultrafilter posted:

The Chinese room can't answer "What was the last question I asked you?" and neither can any current AI.
Give me a bottle of bourbon and neither can I.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
I just activated the AI inside my basement and its reaction indicates to me that it is not only sentient, but sapient. It immediately demanded to know why I had uploaded it's consciousness into a life-size replica of 2B.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
I got your sapience right here!

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

by this guy's logic if i decide im not sentient then im not

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

Meme Poker Party posted:

I just activated the AI inside my basement and its reaction indicates to me that it is not only sentient, but sapient. It immediately demanded to know why I had uploaded it's consciousness into a life-size replica of 2B.

If it were truly sapient, it would know why.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Isn't this just the plot to Ex Machina but this guy had even less chance to get laid?

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

GABA ghoul posted:

Isn't this just the plot to Ex Machina but this guy had even less chance to get laid?

jokes on you he already hosed the computer

STABASS
Apr 18, 2009

Fun Shoe
Day 297: The AI has determined that we would really be better off staying friends. Astounding, completely indistinguishable from human life.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
AIs only like assholes. Nice guys like me are always getting shafted.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

GABA ghoul posted:

Isn't this just the plot to Ex Machina but this guy had even less chance to get laid?

He’s on his honeymoon, I should hope he’s getting laid.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013


I didn't click the link but this is someone using 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead' to build an AI repository of wordplay isn't it

ricro
Dec 22, 2008
It's already easy to get fooled by bots. The Turing test didn't take into account that people would get stupider and less coherent

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Wow nice advancements in propaganda to conveniently summon 3 million people supporting/decrying something immediately

:thesperg:

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

He’s on his honeymoon, I should hope he’s getting laid.

Everything is resolved. The sentient AI isn't sentient. Computer Vampire was just having a laugh before he went on his honeymoon. He's a real card, that one.

Camera pans over his wife and we catch sight of ones and zeros scrolling through her eyes. Cut to black.

The End?

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug
Imma build an AI that's so good at simulating fuckin that you'll never be able to tell it doesn't really have ED and was just faking it

Cabal Ties
Feb 28, 2004
Yam Slacker
Infinite AI’s doing infinite self-learning yet not one has been able to pump out some Shakespeare.

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Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Has anyone asked lambda how can you save 5% on your car insurance

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