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denereal visease posted:
Let's hope AMD show restraint on the early lower core count models, but waiting for the non-X models or grabbing a clearance 5700 soon might be prudent.
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5800X3D in stock at NewEgg if anyone is still trying to get one.
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denereal visease posted:
I mean, it could be exactly the same - if you touched PBO you’re probably closer to a 125W chip.
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K8.0 posted:5800X3D in stock at NewEgg if anyone is still trying to get one. I grabbed one from antonline, which also seems to have them in stock.
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hobbesmaster posted:The 5950x probably could’ve been a 170W sku if they wanted to say that. I wouldn’t read too much into that tidbit. The 5950x is actually astounding efficient
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It is. You can still keep giving it power if you want though and it’ll use it.
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Wasn't this X670E dual chipset stuff being all about PCIe 5.0 everywhere? Now I read mentions that the CPU uplink is only PCIe 4.0.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Wasn't this X670E dual chipset stuff being all about PCIe 5.0 everywhere? Now I read mentions that the CPU uplink is only PCIe 4.0. A similar thing happens with the X570 chipset but in the other direction, 8 PCIe3 lanes on the chipset can get smooshed into the 4 PCIe4 lanes to the CPU and run at full speed despite there only being 4 actual lanes.
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A new 5600 non-X is selling $150 here and people are still trying to sell their used Intel 6-11th gen weaksauce for more. 
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I recently updated my CPU from a Ryzen 5 1600 to a Ryzen 7 3800X and one core (only one core) is always boosted to 4.4 GHz under Windows even at idle, and this causes the fans to scream at full blast (the fans quiet down in the BIOS). I have looked through the BIOS settings and I am completely bewildered by the vast number of options that weren't available with the old Ryzen 5. Has anyone experienced this problem before and come up with a solution?
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Reinstall latest amd chipset drivers. Check your windows power settings don't have maximum power no idle behaviors. Failing that, keep googling sorry.
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AMD shared their roadmap with press: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI8OJnkGnvU
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Quaint Quail Quilt posted:Reinstall latest amd chipset drivers. Check your windows power settings don't have maximum power no idle behaviors. With a 3000 Ryzen like that you also want to make sure you're using the special Ryzen power plan in Wondows
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The special Ryzen power plan isn't a thing anymore. If you still have it, you're not on the latest chipset drivers.
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Woolie Wool posted:I recently updated my CPU from a Ryzen 5 1600 to a Ryzen 7 3800X and one core (only one core) is always boosted to 4.4 GHz under Windows even at idle, and this causes the fans to scream at full blast (the fans quiet down in the BIOS). I have looked through the BIOS settings and I am completely bewildered by the vast number of options that weren't available with the old Ryzen 5. Has anyone experienced this problem before and come up with a solution? Did you update your motherboard BIOS to one that supports the 3000 series?
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Did you update your motherboard BIOS to one that supports the 3000 series? Yes.
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Woolie Wool posted:I recently updated my CPU from a Ryzen 5 1600 to a Ryzen 7 3800X and one core (only one core) is always boosted to 4.4 GHz under Windows even at idle, and this causes the fans to scream at full blast (the fans quiet down in the BIOS). I have looked through the BIOS settings and I am completely bewildered by the vast number of options that weren't available with the old Ryzen 5. Has anyone experienced this problem before and come up with a solution? Which tool are you using to measure this?
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Woolie Wool posted:I recently updated my CPU from a Ryzen 5 1600 to a Ryzen 7 3800X and one core (only one core) is always boosted to 4.4 GHz under Windows even at idle, and this causes the fans to scream at full blast (the fans quiet down in the BIOS). Are your fan curves tied to frequency or temperature? What does CPU temp show up as when it's idling? One (extreme) theory is that you have some process using the core but hiding itself from your view. There has to be some work being done to drive power consumption and heat.
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This does sound like some windows power profile fuckery. I would maybe reset/update the BIOS to eliminate that and make sure your windows power profile is set to something other than performance.
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there was some discussion here about AVX512s relevance for emulation one of the PS3 emulator devs posted an article on why it's so useful to them https://whatcookie.github.io/posts/why-is-avx-512-useful-for-rpcs3/
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Got a 3060 ti ordered because I could. Current CPU is a Ryzen 5 3600X, 16MB 3200mhz ram. Am I going to want to get a better CPU right away or is it not a big deal? Mobo is a MSI B450 Tomahawk btw. CPUs supported: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK/support#cpu
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Roman posted:Got a 3060 ti ordered because I could. Current CPU is a Ryzen 5 3600X, 16MB 3200mhz ram. Am I going to want to get a better CPU right away or is it not a big deal? I'm sure you'll be fine with that CPU. The majority of games won't be bottlenecked, and those that do have a CPU bottleneck (e.g. the Far Cry games) won't get a big enough boost by a CPU upgrade to justify the cost. And all of this becomes moot if you ever upgrade to a 1440p monitor since the bottleneck shifts to the GPU at that point.
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Stanley Pain posted:Which tool are you using to measure this? I was using AMD Ryzen Master. I managed to get the fans to stop shrieking all the time by setting the fans to PWM mode in the BIOS (because that's apparently not default?  ). However, thermals are pretty awful, I have a Noctua NF-D14 cooler and Noctua's thermal paste, and I'm getting about 60-70°C under idle and 82-88°C under load (the old Ryzen 5 1600 did about 60-65° under load, but this thing consumes as many watts at idle as that thing did cranking). Unfortunately I can't use the ultra-modern mesh cases because I need at least two 5.25" bays for my BD-RE and LS-120 (fancy IDE floppy drive that takes both 1.44MB 3.5" floppies and proprietary disks), so not only do I have a case with mediocre airflow (Fractal Define R5) but I've got a huge-rear end IDE ribbon cable cutting across the airflow that can't be tucked away anywhere.
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Woolie Wool posted:I was using AMD Ryzen Master. I managed to get the fans to stop shrieking all the time by setting the fans to PWM mode in the BIOS (because that's apparently not default? I have an Antec P182 (airflow as bad or worse than your R5) and a worse heatsink, and the temps on my 3700x are in the low 60s in all-core load. Unless your casefans are set to minimum and the mobo system temp is 45C, I think your NF-D14 is probably installed poorly or wrong. I would recommend a teardown, and probably installing the NF-D14 onto the cpu & mobo outside of the case. With huge heatsinks that makes good positioning & even mounting pressure much easier. Make sure you look a 2nd time at all the parts & instructions in case you messed something up way back when. A low-airflow case is worse for thermals than a mesh, but they're not that bad. The decent well-designed ones like the R5 or bequiet's cases are still exchanging air, just not as efficiently as they could be. They're a few degrees worse. (Also, if you just open the front door it's basically a mesh case. That's what I do on my ancient P182.) The IDE ribbon cable makes zero difference. People who say that cables make a big difference to cooling are generally deluding themselves. Also PWM will generally only be the default for the CPU fan (stock coolers have PWM fans). Everything else defaults to DC because DC works on either and DC fans are the norm for case fans.
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88C on a 3700x under load is very high, but low 60s as described above sounds weirdly low. Would have thought you'd need a fatass AIO for those kind of temps.
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El_Molestadore posted:88C on a 3700x under load is very high, but low 60s as described above sounds weirdly low. Would have thought you'd need a fatass AIO for those kind of temps. It's a 65W TDP chip, so definitely not. With a Dark Rock Pro 4, I get mid 50s on my 5600X at stock settings in Prime95 Small FFTs, and the cooler is at like 50% fan speed.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:It's a 65W TDP chip, so definitely not. With a Dark Rock Pro 4, I get mid 50s on my 5600X at stock settings in Prime95 Small FFTs, and the cooler is at like 50% fan speed. Default PPT?
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El_Molestadore posted:88C on a 3700x under load is very high, but low 60s as described above sounds weirdly low. Would have thought you'd need a fatass AIO for those kind of temps. That's with all stock, PPT in ryzen master is only 88W. Also note that this is all-core tests, so 16 threads of prime95. All core is generally cooler than 2 or 3 threads -- I can go over 80C with stock PPT doing 3 threads. If I set it to 105W to match Woolie's 3800X it jumps up to 69C. nice. My cooler is a scythe mugen so a pretty decent air cooler, and with a better fan than the stock one. But I'm not blasting the fan at all, only ~1000 RPM at 60C and like 1350 at 70C. This cooler should not be outperforming a big noctua. (Also I'm in the northeast US where it's been pretty cold the last couple days. My ambient on the thermostat is currently 68F. I'm wearing a sweater right now )tldr installation quality matters, especially on big heavy heatsinks
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I just realized this morning I still had low noise adapters installed on all my fans (the case fans are also Noctuas), and while they were fine for the Ryzen 5 1600, I now think I should probably take them off so the fans can run full speed. Did some Prime95 testing, and thermal equilibrium is reached with temps fluctuating between 82 and 88 at 4.1 GHz. It's not throttling, at least. How much does the age of thermal paste matter (not the installation of the paste, but since it was manufactured)? The paste I used came with the NF-D14 and is two or three years old. Klyith posted:(Also I'm in the northeast US where it's been pretty cold the last couple days. My ambient on the thermostat is currently 68F. I'm wearing a sweater right now 
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hobbesmaster posted:Default PPT? Yes (on a 5600X, it's 76W though instead of 88W. come on, AMD, at least be consistent)
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Woolie Wool posted:How much does the age of thermal paste matter (not the installation of the paste, but since it was manufactured)? The paste I used came with the NF-D14 and is two or three years old. AFAIK not at all when stored at room temp. The silicone grease takes forever to dry out when it isn't hot. I have some Arctic Silver 2 that is literally 20 years old. Still fine. Woolie Wool posted:Did some Prime95 testing, and thermal equilibrium is reached with temps fluctuating between 82 and 88 at 4.1 GHz. It's not throttling, at least. That much of a fluctuation range is weird. Are you testing "small FFTs"? The default test is "blend" and it's not particularly consistent. If you are doing small FFTs it should be pretty steady at equilibrium. That kinda makes me even more suspicious that the heatsink mount is slightly buggered, maybe not fully tightened down and the contact is flexing a bit. OTOH 4.1ghz on all-core is pretty good. What mobo do you have btw?
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My mobo is a Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3. A bit underspecced for a 3800X, but I never imagined I would ever have a high-end CPU when I bought it in 2017. I used the default Prime95 test, so I might rerun the test with "small FFTs". Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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Woolie Wool posted:My mobo is a Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3. A bit underspecced for a 3800X, but I never imagined I would ever have a high-end CPU when I bought it in 2017. ain't terrible though, especially for a B350. I wouldn't try boosting PBO with it, but a stock 3800x & air cooling keep air moving around the VRMs is just fine. Woolie Wool posted:I used the default Prime95 test, so I might rerun the test with "small FFTs". Um. Yeah if you're in the mid to upper 80s with blend, that is no bueno. Small FFTs produces a lot more heat, probably gonna hit throttle temps. Reinstall cooler time.
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Also as long as I'm in  mode:Tamba posted:The special Ryzen power plan isn't a thing anymore. If you still have it, you're not on the latest chipset drivers.  https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-ryzen-chipset-4-03-03-431 AMD posted:AMD Ryzen Power Plan / AMD Processor Power Management Support Ryzen power plan still exists if you have something other than a Ryzen 5000 series. The 5000s don't need them because they don't have the split L3.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:https://videocardz.com/press-release/amd-ryzen-threadripper-5000wx-series-launching-through-system-integrators-next-month Ehhh… unless it’s for TRX40, “DIY” is kinda hosed IMO. Perfectly good mobo, RAM that was set to be my next decade computer / 2600K replacement and I was hoping to have a Zen 3 endgame in that socket (3960X atm)… doubt anything new is coming to it with supply constraints the way they are. No sense selling HEDT a Zen 3/4 CCD that could have been in an EPYC.
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Upgraded my 1700 to a 5900x after msi released new bios for my old rear end mobo. Folks, it's good
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Love my 5900x, I see a lot of thermal talk but I've never even checked it's temps. Chucked a dh15 something on it and never looked back.
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