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https://twitter.com/ChittiMarco/status/1446247737381502977?t=wJS-dmJxZhO9uPqjYrq92Q&s=19 Like 1.5 orders of magnitude better than what English speaking countries build. Imagine getting that much more public infrastructure. It might actually start building support for further investment! Anyway, I'm sure Eric Adams is ringing up all the civil servants who worked on this in Italy and offering them green cards right now.
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distortion park posted:https://twitter.com/ChittiMarco/status/1446247737381502977?t=wJS-dmJxZhO9uPqjYrq92Q&s=19 Mama mia!
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Electro-Boogie Jack posted:did minnesota do this too, or what Yes, I haven't noticed any yard signs when I've been back to Illinois to visit family. My neighborhood in MN is littered with them and people still drive 40+ down side streets with cars parked on one or both sides of the street. 
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distortion park posted:https://twitter.com/ChittiMarco/status/1446247737381502977?t=wJS-dmJxZhO9uPqjYrq92Q&s=19 My city is projecting somewhere above 1 million in escalator/vator maintenance per year per station by 2040, not counting replacement costs
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"Oh don't mind how backwater and bare bones this out of the way, unpopular station is" mfer that thing is nicer than my town's main transit center and our whole state only has like 3 of those
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Based on the pictures they have platform doors and are way nicer than typical NYC subway stations
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Zerg Mans posted:when did they decide to give hatchbacks slightly bigger tires and call it a crossover SUV
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Every year America's new car models evolve further into an SUV. Even the newest trucks look like a SUV with a tiny truck bed attached as an afterthought. it's loving hilarious. look at this 
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WaryWarren posted:Yes, I haven't noticed any yard signs when I've been back to Illinois to visit family. My neighborhood in MN is littered with them and people still drive 40+ down side streets with cars parked on one or both sides of the street. Minneapolis/St. Paul/A lot of the first tier burbs also set city wide speed limits to 20 MPH except when marked higher elsewhere so everything but major roads is 20 MPH. No one follows that, but it's something I guess.
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Every year America's new car models evolve further into an SUV. Even the newest trucks look like a SUV with a tiny truck bed attached as an afterthought.
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its unbelievable to me that the "crossover" style of car has become so popular. no accounting for taste i guess
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I saw someone driving a brand new infiniti qx80 yesterday lol it's always some white soccer mom 6000 pounds (I honestly thought it would be higher)
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actionjackson posted:I saw someone driving a brand new infiniti qx80 yesterday lol lol my 1990 q45 was only 4000 and it was extremely heavy
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actionjackson posted:I saw someone driving a brand new infiniti qx80 yesterday lol It's just a Nissan Armada with an extra $20K added to the base MSRP, shrewd work on Nissan's part
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i say swears online posted:it's loving hilarious. look at this that cant be real wtf
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Suplex Liberace posted:ok its not the main model mustang but htat is fugly the funniest thing is porsche is also doing extremely overpriced SUVs now and there was one yosposer who was obsesed and went out and bought one and said "i worked hard for it" lol
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Xaris posted:mustang is just dumb branding to make brain rotten boomers part with all their money. my friend got a cayenne for driving from texas to colorado for snowboarding took it on one trip before he just started flying instead
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Xaris posted:mustang is just dumb branding to make brain rotten boomers part with all their money. The Porsche SUVs are just rebadged VWs iirc
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The Porsche SUVs are just rebadged VWs iirc that's true which makes it funnier (this was LeftistMuslimObama/cis autodrag which also makes it even funnier). porsche doesnt use their own boxer engines because they dont work in an suv and are designed for compact-flat low-center of gravity and redesigning it would be too much work and far better just to take a VW and slap on the porsche badge and charge an extra $40k for the name. no one buying an SUV is wise enough to know anyways so it's a smart move on their part
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Xaris posted:that's true which makes it funnier (this was LeftistMuslimObama/cis autodrag which also makes it even funnier). porsche doesnt use their own boxer engines because they dont work in an suv and are designed for compact-flat low-center of gravity and redesigning it would be too much work and far better just to take a VW and slap on the porsche badge and charge an extra $40k for the name. yeah they’re a fav of Turkish government officials, including feto himself  
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my dad used to have 911s and was extremely disgusted at the cayenne when it came out
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i say swears online posted:it's loving hilarious. look at this  
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mystes posted:We really need to learn from what's working in other countries but Americans are literally incapable of that. i can tell you why this doesn't happen in america: (does the money fingers thing) Why spend 50 bucks to have a government entity build something over a weekend when you can spend 5 million on bullshit like: contract negotiation with private companies for 3 years (some of which are owned by your neighbors and friends) envrionmental reviews that are meaningless (subcontracted to a company for 2 years) public discourse for 18 months (listen to boomers complain about project) new round of contract negotiations after paying the first company 2 million dollars just for them to bail out and finally 3 million dollars to your golfing buddy with no timeline or budgetary concerns because you just got elected senator and it's therefore not your problem anymore
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an actual frog posted:Meanwhile, in Europe why does this exist wtf
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I doubt many people know how many car brands VW owns the highest price option for the QX80 is the "sensory" package lol
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actionjackson posted:I doubt many people know how many car brands VW owns
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Just thought of something… Any chud rear end authoritarian candidate has a great chance of winning if they campaign on reducing gas prices. and cars will continue to ruin the world lmao
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a_pineapple posted:Just thought of something… Any chud rear end authoritarian candidate has a great chance of winning if they campaign on reducing gas prices. It's too hard for politicians to try to convince people that they should change things, and half the country is basically now opposed to all change as their only political belief, so all politicians can do is make it even easier to not change anything. I mean if we can't even try to propose ways for people to drive less at the time when people have the most financial incentive to do so, how are we ever supposed to cut emissions?!
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actionjackson posted:I doubt many people know how many car brands VW owns pretty funny since porsche has always been vw. the very first one was a juiced up beetle designed by the same dude and used the same parts. the og upmarket brand. but this time... upmarket for HITLER
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i say swears online posted:my friend got a cayenne for driving from texas to colorado for snowboarding How does non-private air travel stack up on the energy wastage front anyway. Epic High Five posted:1.3 billion across 13km and 19 stations? What's that get you in the US, 2 miles of highway that takes 3 years to finish? lol 3 years. Funny as
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Milo and POTUS posted:How does non-private air travel stack up on the energy wastage front anyway. depends on how many passengers are in a car and how full planes are (which will be flying regardless if there's no passengers, e.g. pandemic). so planes are flying whether you're on it or not, but driving is all on you to drive. a 4 passenger car is less co2, but a 1-person car ride is worse.. also depends on flight haul since heaviest is takeoff/landing poo poo and not as bad at high altitude cruising. but also individual footprint is a big oil psyop poo poo anyways.
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mystes posted:I think I've said this before, but I feel like we've optimized ourselves into a really lovely local minimum? Things could be better but getting there would require making things harder for everyone for a while temporarily, so instead everyone's just focused on ensuring things can stay easy in the local minimum we're camped out in right now. I agree I think those are all valid points * We (in general, personally idgaf change it all up we live in hell) are extremely resistant to any sort of minor change, and like you said half the country has absorbed being resistant to change into their culture * Policymakers face an impossible choice: Either do what the "majority" of people want (to drive) or don't get elected * Car culture is so goddamn strong and fused with American culture that changing policy is useless. Culture has to change. We are literally willing to sacrifice ourselves and our fellow humans for the opportunity/ability to drive. I really do think that American cultural values basically come down to war and cars.
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Xaris posted:but also individual footprint is a big oil psyop poo poo anyways.
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