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Chapter 18quote:Rachel rose on hind legs and cautiously lifted the sewer cap just enough to peer out. Standing erect, she was taller than the ceiling. She pushed the cap aside. Jake followed her out with a lightning leap. Marco brought up the rear. So in this chapter we've learned there's democracy and "democracy", and the danger of overeating. Chapter 19 quote:<Ax!> I cried. Panic gripped my tiny bat heart. <Ax! Ax! Ax!> So, I think this chapter summarizes what the book is about, and that's fear of weakness and how it can drive you to desperate things: The Taxxons' fear of starvation, Taylor's fear of rejection, and Tobias's fear of being weak.
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Chapter 20quote:A thousand horrors. A crazy, mixed-up hell right here on Earth. A melting pot of enslaved, alien races. A sea of two kinds of motion: the slow, deliberate movements of bodies who aren’t free, and the wild, desperate spasms of doomed, caged prisoners. So you see Taylor's real plan here, right? Chapter 21 quote:She jabbed her synthetic fist in my still-paralyzed throat and left me gagging. Then she turned away from the view of the Yeerk pool and shot off down the tunnel as fast as human legs would carry her. And that was the plan, all along.
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 03:41 |
Welp.
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 04:26 |
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They falling for it aside, this is one of the better written books overall I think. Taylor is a really, really good villain and her psychological combat with a traumatized Tobias is really strong and unnerving.
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 05:46 |
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I don't know why but I always enjoy it when the Yeerks single out one of the "bandits". Doesn't happen much outside of this and Ax unfortunately but reasoanbly. It makes me feel as if Taylor thinks Tobias is doubly pathetic as he doesn't even speak with the regular arrogance and sneer of an Andalite (though I doubt she had many conversations with Andalites anyway). This shows she thinks he's probably the lowest rung of the team. I also really enjoyed the mental image of Ax and Tobias standing shoulder together as Andalites.
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 06:22 |
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Sorry, blowing up the Yeerk pool tonight. Post tomorrow.
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# ? Jun 15, 2022 04:26 |
Epicurius posted:Sorry, blowing up the Yeerk pool tonight. Post tomorrow. Take pics
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# ? Jun 15, 2022 04:47 |
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Visser Three in a towering rage, promising foul vengeance on whomstever removed the last letter from the YEERK POOL sign
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# ? Jun 15, 2022 05:22 |
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These cursed Andalite bandits keep drawing human genitalia in the host waste deposit center!
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# ? Jun 15, 2022 06:48 |
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Prank calling the Yeerk Pool and getting Chapman to ask if there's an I.P. Freely at the pool.
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# ? Jun 15, 2022 15:07 |
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<Control your hosts, FOOLS! This is a top priority transmission from the Council>
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# ? Jun 15, 2022 20:54 |
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“Sir, Visser Two wants to know if our refrigerator is running.” <I TIRE OF THIS POINTLESS DAILY PESTERING. IF HE’S SO CONCERNED, TELL HIM TO COME TO EARTH AND OBSERVE IT FOR HIMSELF!>
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# ? Jun 15, 2022 21:12 |
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Jingle Bells, The Visser Smells.... <Do I smell, Chapman?> "No, Visser." <Then why do those Animorph bandits keep insisting I do?> Chapter 22 quote:FweeeeWOOOOOOOOSH! Animorphs are friends, not food. But they should be fine as long as Tobias doesn't eat them. Chapter 23 quote:We were conscious. We were breathing. We were alive. Barely. I mean, Cassie did say earier in the book that it was different if she had to fight for her friends.
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# ? Jun 16, 2022 05:00 |
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Chapter 24quote:It was the next day. The sun beat down. And produced columns of rising hot air. I must have gone twelve minutes without flapping a wing. Rachel, too. Nature was giving us a free ride. And there's the book. Depressing? Yes. Good? I think so. It's the definite question of "Are we trapped by our pasts? Tobias, the Taxxons, even Taylor (and at the end of the book) were all victims of trauma and fear. And how do you overcome that? How do you deal with the insecurity you have? Can you just let it go? Tomorrow, we start a Cassie book, Book 43, the Unexpected. And it's....unexpected.
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# ? Jun 17, 2022 03:43 |
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It's a good book, not a great one. It's a step down from Tobias's last book for me because the trap is so obvious, and becauseOctaviusBeaver posted:I agree with the point about her being right a lot in a way that doesn't feel earned. I think my main problem with it, especially later in the series, is that the other animorphs argue for a pragmatic choice and Cassie argues for a more moral choice, and then later it turns out that Cassie's ethical plan is also the best strategically. Still, it's way better than some of the others that came out around here, like The Unexpected. Epicurius posted:Tomorrow, we start a Cassie book, Book 43, the Unexpected. oh goddammit but that also means that the book after next is a Big Deal!
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# ? Jun 17, 2022 13:51 |
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Book 44-The Unexpected Ghostwritten by Lisa Harkrader. Harkrader ghostwrote three Animorph books. She didn't do much before Animorphs, but afterwards, wrote a bunch of books, some of them for young children.....retellings of fairy tales and licensed Disney picture books, some young adult books, including a novel about a teenage vampire, some sports books, and a book about a been themed superhero, and some educational reference books associated with the now shutdown myreportlinks.com which was a kind of scammy site. The books didn't do much other than refer you to the website, which then referred you to free websites about the topic. It's kind of shady because the books didn't really add much value. Anyway, on to the first chapter. Chapter 1 quote:I swooped low. So at least we jump straight into the action without the "I can't tell you where I live...." beginning. Chapter 2 quote:“HhhhoooRRRAAWWRR!” Oh, never mind. At least it's combined with action.
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# ? Jun 18, 2022 04:17 |
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OctaviusBeaver posted:I agree with the point about her being right a lot in a way that doesn't feel earned. I think my main problem with it, especially later in the series, is that the other animorphs argue for a pragmatic choice and Cassie argues for a more moral choice, and then later it turns out that Cassie's ethical plan is also the best strategically. Real life isn't like that, making moral choices frequently puts you at a disadvantage vs people that don't, especially in war. It's a copout that the ethical choice also always happens to be the pragmatic one in a war of extermination. I will comment on this a little bit, because it was brought up just recently, and say that sometimes the ethical plan is actually the more pragmatic one. There's this trope we see a lot of recently, the whole "hard men making hard choices" thing, You sort of see a resurgence in it after 9/11, and the real life debate over torture and extraordinary rendition and stuff like that, which got reflected in fiction. You see that a lot in 24, where the "good guys" engage in a bunch of torture, both physical and psychological. They're conflicted about it, but if they don't, the bomb will blow up the city, or the president will get assassinated, or whatever, so, regretfully, they have to do all this immoral stuff. We take that trope for granted now, but I'm not sure it's entirely true. And we've learned from the history of war that sometimes doing the morally better thing really is the wiser thing. Indiscriminate area bombing of civilians doesn't break their morale, it makes them more willing to fight. Killing enemy soldiers who try to surrender doesn't make enemy soldiers more likely to surrender, it makes them less likely to surrender. The reason that countries agreed to codes of war....to things like the Geneva Conventions, or bans on landmines or chemical weapon use, wasn't just because they wanted to be nice people, but because they realized that things like that made war more winnable, and easier on their soldiers and civilians.
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# ? Jun 18, 2022 04:35 |
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Ah, the book so bad and pointless it made me stop reading the series because I thought "they are just spinning their wheels and never going to end it at this point" then in the very next book they pull the trigger on the end game lol Epicurius posted:I will comment on this a little bit, because it was brought up just recently, and say that sometimes the ethical plan is actually the more pragmatic one. There's this trope we see a lot of recently, the whole "hard men making hard choices" thing, You sort of see a resurgence in it after 9/11, and the real life debate over torture and extraordinary rendition and stuff like that, which got reflected in fiction. You see that a lot in 24, where the "good guys" engage in a bunch of torture, both physical and psychological. They're conflicted about it, but if they don't, the bomb will blow up the city, or the president will get assassinated, or whatever, so, regretfully, they have to do all this immoral stuff. We take that trope for granted now, but I'm not sure it's entirely true. IIRC not once in the entire run of 24 (at least to season 6 when I stopped watching) do they ever torture someone and, whoopsie, turns out they got the wrong guy. I also think there's never or very rarely in real life been an actual scenario of the "ticking time bomb," because that's just not really how counter-terrorism works. If your intel is good enough to let you know there's going to be a bombing, it's good enough for you to make arrests long before it actually goes down to the wire like that.
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# ? Jun 18, 2022 14:08 |
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Epicurius posted:There's this trope we see a lot of recently, the whole "hard men making hard choices" thing, You sort of see a resurgence in it after 9/11, and the real life debate over torture and extraordinary rendition and stuff like that, which got reflected in fiction. You see that a lot in 24, where the "good guys" engage in a bunch of torture, both physical and psychological. They're conflicted about it, but if they don't, the bomb will blow up the city, or the president will get assassinated, or whatever, so, regretfully, they have to do all this immoral stuff. We take that trope for granted now, but I'm not sure it's entirely true. And we've learned from the history of war that sometimes doing the morally better thing really is the wiser thing. Indiscriminate area bombing of civilians doesn't break their morale, it makes them more willing to fight. Killing enemy soldiers who try to surrender doesn't make enemy soldiers more likely to surrender, it makes them less likely to surrender. The reason that countries agreed to codes of war....to things like the Geneva Conventions, or bans on landmines or chemical weapon use, wasn't just because they wanted to be nice people, but because they realized that things like that made war more winnable, and easier on their soldiers and civilians. freebooter posted:IIRC not once in the entire run of 24 (at least to season 6 when I stopped watching) do they ever torture someone and, whoopsie, turns out they got the wrong guy. Yup, this is all pretty dead-on. As Jon Bois more or less goes into. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P52G4Kyq5M
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Chapter 3quote:BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM! Not to be too critical of this chapter, but it's very much one of those bullet chapters....as in, single line paragraphs. Maybe it's just me, so feel free to disagree with me here, but I don't think Animorphs does fight scenes very well. To be fair, they're very hard to do well in first person writing. If you're in the fight, you're caught up in your individual fight and aren't really in a position to understand the whole battle. But there are very few actual combat scenes in Animorphs I like. Chapter 4 quote:I flopped on the tarmac. My wing lay mangled and torn, shattered by the pistol’s recoil. Ok, I liked The Blair Muppet Project.
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# ? Jun 19, 2022 03:56 |
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Chapter 5quote:Demorph. Fast! RIP Cassie, I guess. Chapter 6 quote:“Uhhhnn.” So we all know what airport code SYD stands for.. But why is Cassie putting all the guilt on herself for this? Everybody wanted this mission, it sounds like, not just her. Sure, it got screwed up and ehe was separated, but it's not all her fault.
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# ? Jun 20, 2022 02:57 |
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More amusing to me is how consistently squeamish they are about ever stealing anything. a) I'm sure Coles or Woolworths stocks will manage to recover from a single missing orange, and b) you are saving the world, you are morally entitled to requisition necessary supplies sometimes.
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Meanwhile Marco takes out enough mailboxes with his truck to equal the GDP of a small country.
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# ? Jun 20, 2022 17:35 |
It sounds to me like the ghostwriter heard "Cassie is the moral centre of the group and is very reluctant about the things they do" and ran with it.
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# ? Jun 20, 2022 20:08 |
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I do appreciate that this group of controllers were actually fairly competent?
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# ? Jun 20, 2022 22:40 |
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Mazerunner posted:I do appreciate that this group of controllers were actually fairly competent? Yeah, give the guy who realized, "Hm, maybe the enemies can change their shape into any animal didn't let themselves get shot and maybe turned very small instead?" a promotion. Also appreciate that all Yeerks are just walking around with bug spray now, as it's a very simple thing to do that closes off a lot of escape routes.
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# ? Jun 21, 2022 00:01 |
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freebooter posted:More amusing to me is how consistently squeamish they are about ever stealing anything. a) I'm sure Coles or Woolworths stocks will manage to recover from a single missing orange, and b) you are saving the world, you are morally entitled to requisition necessary supplies sometimes. At first I thought it might be some kind of 90's moral panic thing, where you can't be perceived as promoting shoplifting. But then they steal plenty of cars and chop off plenty of hands and do a bit of light genocide, and that seems to have been okay. So I don't know.
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Tree Bucket posted:At first I thought it might be some kind of 90's moral panic thing, where you can't be perceived as promoting shoplifting. But then they steal plenty of cars and chop off plenty of hands and do a bit of light genocide, and that seems to have been okay. So I don't know. I can definitely see the editors frowning on behaviour they were worried younger kids might be more likely to mimic, as opposed to grand theft auto or xenocide. Either that or it's just a very American "Property Crime Is The Only Crime" vibe. The only car they've ever stolen is Cassie's dad's own pick-up, I think?
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# ? Jun 21, 2022 02:56 |
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Get ready, Australia tomorrow.
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# ? Jun 21, 2022 04:19 |
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Epicurius posted:Get ready, Australia tomorrow. I anticipate a nuanced, challenging depiction of my homeland in this ghost-written book for 90's american schoolchildren. Scholastic's deadline of eleven days will surely add to its exquisite poignancy
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# ? Jun 21, 2022 04:24 |
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I'm like 90% sure the plot of this book was reverse engineered from running low on exotic animals and needing to put a kangaroo on the cover
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# ? Jun 21, 2022 05:07 |
Tree Bucket posted:I anticipate a nuanced, challenging depiction of my homeland It's fiction, not alternative history :kiwi:
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# ? Jun 21, 2022 05:40 |
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I hope Cassie morphs into a prawn who has to avoid a BBQ. Just lean into the stereotypes.
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# ? Jun 21, 2022 06:21 |
They already had Schwarzenegger in the books, why can't she get wrestled to the ground by Steve Irwin after morphing croc?
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# ? Jun 21, 2022 06:42 |
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As an Australian who has not read this book, I am quietly terrified.
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# ? Jun 21, 2022 06:47 |
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I'm most alarmed by this series' love of onomatopoeia combined w/ kangaroos. We're getting BOINGS, aren't we?
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# ? Jun 21, 2022 06:56 |
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Chapter 7quote:ZZZZzzzzzzzzttttttttt So no Australia yet, but at least we discovered the Yeerk's one weakness....wooden crates. Chapter 8 quote:Crrrrreeeeeeeennnnnnnkkk. I bet Cassie went to Space Camp.
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 03:02 |
The real victim of this chapter are the poor bastards who are going to have to account for a couple crates of engine parts vanishing midflight. Someone's going to lose their job.
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 03:08 |
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It really takes me out when they talk about the knees bending backwards, still. It's such a bad misunderstanding of anatomy and it's my per peeve apparently.
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Epicurius posted:. Comrade Blyatlov posted:The real victim of this chapter are the poor bastards who are going to have to account for a couple crates of engine parts vanishing midflight. Someone's going to lose their job. I can see post war a medium sized law practice setting up shop for people who lost property or had job issues related to things like that.
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