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Charliegrs posted:I think it was really dumb to have only the first hearing at prime time and then the rest at 130pm EST. If they are trying to get the American people to pay attention to this then putting it on while 99% of people are at work was a bad idea. At best some folks will get the 5 minute sound bites of the hearings long after they have ended but that's just not going to have the same impact. They did such a good job with the opening hearing not only in airing it prime time but also with how they decided to present it. It was a much more digestable hearing for normal folks. They should have just kept doing it that way. I get it, but I also get people who would get angry if this kept interrupting their prime time programming and would tune it out (I know, but it's true). I have a feeling that the nights for the big reveals are going to be on prime time for maximum impact, but they're building the case now.
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Silly Burrito posted:I get it, but I also get people who would get angry if this kept interrupting their prime time programming and would tune it out (I know, but it's true). I have a feeling that the nights for the big reveals are going to be on prime time for maximum impact, but they're building the case now. also then everyone gets the key points on the nightly news programs. hit the biggest notes at prime time i assume.
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I reckon the afternoon hearings will be tailored for sound bites. After all they delayed the hearings because they hadn’t finished editing the video material.
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Jarmak posted:Congress also doesn't just get to get prime time tv slots wherever it wants. Here is the topic of Wednesay's postponed hearing, first: quote:This hearing will offer evidence about Trump's unsuccessful plan to oust Rosen and replace him with another DOJ official who was more supportive of Trump's fraud claims, Jeffrey Clark, according to Cheney. Clark drafted a letter to states that said the department "identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election." I told my girlfriend last night I would not be surprised if, after these first two hearings as those involved start to understand just what all the J6 Committee knows, some of them, at least one if not two or more, will do like Mark Meadows' assistant Cassidy Hutchinson did when she fired her Trumpy attorney and hired a real one so she could cooperate. Since I doubt their media team failed to finish their presentations in time for tomorrow, there needs to be a different reason why the media teams need extra time. The easiest one I can think of to explain would be new evidence. Maybe new witness testimony or new revelations? Or it could actually be they just didn't get done in time, or decided what they had needed tweaking. Could be anything. This is fun, because unlike several years ago we can speculate about who knows what and which secrets will be revealed; and who knows how many of them will be answered before July? It's also fun because gently caress a fascist in the face all day every day.
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Oracle posted:They are emphatically not pulling any punches with this. You should watch some of the coverage, they're using the word 'coup' quite freely. Words are one thing. Actions are another. I'll believe Trump getting charged when it happens and not a second before. The system was created by powerful people to make it easy for them and other powerful people to get away with crimes.
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Charliegrs posted:I think it was really dumb to have only the first hearing at prime time and then the rest at 130pm EST. If they are trying to get the American people to pay attention to this then putting it on while 99% of people are at work was a bad idea. At best some folks will get the 5 minute sound bites of the hearings long after they have ended but that's just not going to have the same impact. They did such a good job with the opening hearing not only in airing it prime time but also with how they decided to present it. It was a much more digestable hearing for normal folks. They should have just kept doing it that way. The hearing is almost certainly planned with the intention of having the sound bites dripped out through the media. Only the most deeply politically-addicted people are going to directly watch more than an hour or two worth of Congressional hearings.
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so it appears there were some scouting tours on January 5th https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1537075019918065666
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Mike Lindell says he offered to publicly testify before the January 6 committee but they didn't want to talk to him https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-lindell-request-testify-january-6-panel-ignored-2022-6 quote:Bannon asked Lindell if the committee had reached out to him to go through "all the voluminous material" he has about the 2020 election. Lol nobody wants to talk to the pillow guy. I'm sure it'd be a huge liability for anyone involved.
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mobby_6kl posted:Mike Lindell says he offered to publicly testify before the January 6 committee but they didn't want to talk to him Imagine trying to use him as any kind of witness for anything. It'd be like asking Trump to testify about something he heard.
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mobby_6kl posted:Mike Lindell says he offered to publicly testify before the January 6 committee but they didn't want to talk to him my guess is he is lying that they wanted to talk to him. the dudes a mentally star fucker who is mostly just getting sued to oblivion and he would either lie or plead the fith. why waste the time.
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Lindell fanned a lot of the flames that lead to the failed coup but I would be genuinely surprised if he witnessed or participated in anything that would matter.
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Charliegrs posted:I honestly think the DOJ will be too afraid of civil unrest to go through with any indictment of Trump. Ya I mean imagine if they got pissed and stormed the capitol.
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yronic heroism posted:The scary part is some non-zero proportion of that would go on to say, “Therefore lock up Pelosi/Pence/the county clerk in Detroit/etc.” Exactly. The context of the question doesn't imply at all who the person sees as the party doing the criming.
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Trumps webpage full of factual information nuggets linked to this yesterday. https://amgreatness.com/2022/06/13/the-j6-pilot-flopped/ The J6 Pilot Flopped Democrats can now add “televised distraction campaign sideshow” to their growing list of failures. "The ratings don’t lie: America is not enthralled. Despite unprecedented coordination on behalf of the mainstream media to synchronize coverage of the Democrats’ mockumentary, the left-wing smokescreen failed to capture the hearts and minds of the nation. " "America does not want to J6 and chill." "The sham committee’s failure to produce a small screen sensation was not for lack of trying. They used teleprompters to read off their scripted monologues, hired former television executives to produce the drama, and selectively edited testimony from the witnesses. They refused to release full interviews from their witness testimony, and removed persons of interest from their videos to cover alternative storylines. They had to. Otherwise, their narrative wouldn’t be compelling; the evidence would undermine the committee’s political agenda." "Democrats can now add “televised distraction campaign sideshow” to their growing list of failures. "
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Here's Loudermilk claiming he never gave the tour that we can see him leading https://twitter.com/RepLoudermilk/status/1536680390840418304 https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1537075019918065666 FAKE NEWS strikes again!
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You would think that a sitting Congressman would maybe understand that the Capitol building has security cameras. You would think.
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BiggerBoat posted:Here's Loudermilk claiming he never gave the tour that we can see him leading i am curious what shitfucks like loudermilks plan was also whats chud penguns role in the horror show, he seems like some dickhead true believer who has a couple boats.
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How are u posted:You would think that a sitting Congressman would maybe understand that the Capitol building has security cameras. You would think. He doesn't have to believe it. He just has to deny it.
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How are u posted:You would think that a sitting Congressman would maybe understand that the Capitol building has security cameras. You would think. Arrogance and ignorance go hand-in-hand.
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I mean the congresspeople fascist enough to actually partake in the J6 business don’t really have to be afraid of optics because their voting base will either A: not hear of their crimes due to media bias or B: fully approve of their actions. Optics isn’t an issue for these people. The only times it matters is in the legal sense i.e. don’t admit to crimes, let the persecution work themselves to that trophy.
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Steve Bannon now claims that the Jan 6 hearing today was canceled because "their ratings stink and they cant compete with the trial of Bannon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9IFToc1Qak
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How are u posted:You would think that a sitting Congressman would maybe understand that the Capitol building has security cameras. You would think. I work training new hires at an Amazon warehouse and one of the things I try to do is point out there are cameras everywhere, the systems track all inventory movement and explain that a third of the reason we can't have earbuds to listen to music while working is because people keep trying to steal airpods (the other thirds are OSHA safety rules and Amazon not wanting the peasantry to have nice things). People still keep getting fired for theft. I imagine a sitting congresscritter has a minimum of 1,000 times the amount of ego and self delusion of someone working poverty wages. Those cameras are for tracking the poor and unclean and liberal not a Godly Pillar of Conservative Legislative Power like himself. How dare they use the cameras against him!
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BiggerBoat posted:Here's Loudermilk claiming he never gave the tour that we can see him leading Yeah apparently the guy who was using the American flag on a pointed pole to spear police was one of the guys on this tour.
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Loudermilk's video criming is a perfect example of why I keep admitting the unpopular view that my confidence grows by the day. Guy on FB has been "just asking questions" about the Coup, denying it was a Coup, etc. I told him by next week I'd be able to prove sitting GOP legislators gave tours on the eve of the riot. I said that because I had read the claim the committee knew and had video that contradicted Loudermilk's denials. And last night Loudermilk was on Laura Ingraham's show denying denying denying. Then today the video evidence drops, and once again it's wholly damning. There is nothing legitimate about that tour and everyone knows it, but to be holding multiple cell phones and taking pictures of the stairwell to the House Ways and Means Committee room, to which many Congresspeople were taken to shelter in place during the riot, is just not going to be hand-waved away except to the most deluded or programmed people. I also told him we would know who requested pardons too, and I expect to be able to deliver on that promise before the 4th of July. If not then, soon. Tomorrow's hearing doesn't actually start until 1pm but coverage starts at noon on cable news.
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Dr. Faustus posted:
So... Literally every Republican that isn't Liz Cheney will be handwaving it away is what you're saying.
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Ginni Thomas corresponded with John Eastman, sources in Jan. 6 House investigation sayquote:The House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol has obtained email correspondence between Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and lawyer John Eastman, who played a key role in efforts to pressure Vice President Mike Pence to block the certification of Joe Biden’s victory, according to three people involved in the committee’s investigation.
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Alkydere posted:I work training new hires at an Amazon warehouse and one of the things I try to do is point out there are cameras everywhere, the systems track all inventory movement and explain that a third of the reason we can't have earbuds to listen to music while working is because people keep trying to steal airpods (the other thirds are OSHA safety rules and Amazon not wanting the peasantry to have nice things). People still keep getting fired for theft. i will also suggest an additional explanation: they thought it was going to work and that they would get away with it
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I don’t think the hearings would postpone a session because some holdout decided to cooperate after realizing they were going to come out looking poorly. The crimes they did aren’t going away because they admit to them or point fingers. They material would still stand and it would be even more compelling to start off a session next week with ‘breaking information’ as a sign the Omertà wall was crumbling due to the committee’s efforts. They weren’t ready so they postponed it. There’s probably multiple teams doing the prep work and the Thursday team was on track so they are going ahead with that stuff on schedule. The DoJ coercion stuff is bad, very bad, but the Eastman stuff is the very heart of the conspiracy and if they can wing a sitting justice on the way I hope they do it. Thomas sitting on the bench ruling on cases involving his wife’s sedition should put him in jail much less lose him his seat.
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OgNar posted:Steve Bannon now claims that the Jan 6 hearing today was canceled because "their ratings stink and they cant compete with the trial of Bannon. Bannon and Giuliani creating new SNL sketches on the fly now https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1537246548664328192?s=20&t=S-Ul70GrusmEp8mz_Fw7mw
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Charliegrs posted:So... Literally every Republican that isn't Liz Cheney will be handwaving it away is what you're saying.
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Not gonna lie J6 and chill was clever
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i am curious what shitfucks like loudermilks plan was also whats chud penguns role in the horror show, he seems like some dickhead true believer who has a couple boats. In loudermilks defense he might have actually been oblivious to what those guys were doing. I used to be in his district (before he was elected tho) and that guy is loving stupid. I got to see him speak around 2017 at like a fundraiser/local Marietta event, could not have been a friendlier venue, and there is just nothing there.
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FizFashizzle posted:In loudermilks defense he might have actually been oblivious to what those guys were doing. He must be profoundly ignorant then to not have gotten even the tiniest bit suspicious when instead of going on the normal tour route his guests pointedly asked him “Hey, can you show us all the stairwells and points of entrance and exit to the building and these specific members of the Democratic leadership’s offices? Just for funzies, you know.” Multiple congresspeople have said that where he took these creeps was nowhere near the usual guided tour hotspots. Like places you would only go if you were some low level file rat who works in the bowels of the Capitol… or if you were casing the place for nefarious purposes.
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nine-gear crow posted:He must be profoundly ignorant then to not have gotten even the tiniest bit suspicious when instead of going on the normal tour route his guests pointedly asked him “Hey, can you show us all the stairwells and points of entrance and exit to the building and these specific members of the Democratic leadership’s offices? Just for funzies, you know.” Loudermilk reportedly rode in on one of the MAGA Busses, he knew what they were there to do, and there's a reason he got them early access prior to the 6th.
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Question: if it appears from that video that loudermilk was present for parts of the tour, and tourmembers who would later be back in the attack were taking pics and stuff.... Why do the cap police send back a letter saying "nothing to see here"?
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The Bananana posted:Question: if it appears from that video that loudermilk was present for parts of the tour, and tourmembers who would later be back in the attack were taking pics and stuff.... They're cops? I dunno. Loudermilk says tour was taking pictures of children's artwork, not tunnels Yes that's what adults visiting the Capitol are really interested in, children's artwork.
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The Bananana posted:
My guess is that there are Capitol police that sympathize with the insurrectionists, and put that out to muddy the waters.
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For the record, a) iirc it's not that uncommon for tour groups to use the capitol tunnels, and b) it is very strange to actually take a group to see those children's drawings; they're something you mention in passing on the way to somewhere else.
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