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SirSamVimes posted:can you not post untagged spoilers such as the fact that zenos didn't even die in stormblood The dude literally appears in the opening video for the last two expansions. He was all over the advertising. I looked at a review of Endwalker and it is literally a picture of him. I think that particular spoiler is well and truly out of the bag. Like I absolutely understand wanting to avoid spoilers but asking people to avoid spoilers that there are multiple ways to see by things like "booting up the game" "looking at the art that was on the launcher until 6.1" and "literally on the shop page to purchase the game" is excessive. By that logic nobody can discuss any of the Scions because they all have death fakeouts at some point. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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The man called M posted:Is there some emotional payoff to doing the weeklies after the NieR Raids? 
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He's also fake-dead for all of like one patch iirc
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Some people don't watch trailers for expansions they're not up to for exactly that reason. It's no effort whatsoever to use tags.
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I had the Crystal Exarch's identity spoiled to me by this thread and it sucked poo poo, just be better safe than sorry.
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Understand the beauty of a story is in the telling of it and what you take from it, not from the hard facts of what happens in it. Free yourselves from the mind prison of Spoiler Culture, friends.
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goons comprehending that other people might be more sensitive to spoilers than they are challenge [impossible]
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i don't even loving open the thread when there's new story stuff out until well after i finish all of it
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Understand the beauty of a story is in the telling of it and what you take from it, not from the hard facts of what happens in it. Yeah I already tried this, it doesn't work. The next few pages are going to be tedious. Come back Monday.
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If you want to talk about another tedious subject, there are a grand total of nine non-FC houses for sale on my server, all smalls, none in particularly good locations, none in Empyreum, and after a day of bidding all of them have triple-digit bidders. There's a small in a great location (beachfront) and one medium also vacant but unavailable, so they'll be auctioned in the next cycle, and I can only imagine how many people will fight over those. How's the housing situation where you are?
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FuturePastNow posted:If you want to talk about another tedious subject, there are a grand total of nine non-FC houses for sale on my server, all smalls, none in particularly good locations, none in Empyreum, and after a day of bidding all of them have triple-digit bidders. Any idea how many open FC plots there are?
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Warmachine posted:Any idea how many open FC plots there are? I didn't look very thoroughly, but not many, except for smalls in Empyreum. Those are almost all vacant outside of ward #1.
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I feel like the FC ward/player ward split isn't really the best solution but I also don't know what a better one is. FCs should absolutely have easier access to houses than players should. But we already have a situation where so many of the "FC wards" are 90% players. So I hate when people say "there are only 6 player wards" because while not completely untrue, it misrepresents the situation to a degree.
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But again, that's just the housing situation on my server, which is not where the goon FCs are located so most of you are probably playing elsewhere. I wonder if they realized that letting us see the number of bidders on each property would also let us see just how many people want houses they can't get 
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Mordiceius posted:I feel like the FC ward/player ward split isn't really the best solution but I also don't know what a better one is. FCs should absolutely have easier access to houses than players should. But we already have a situation where so many of the "FC wards" are 90% players. So I hate when people say "there are only 6 player wards" because while not completely untrue, it misrepresents the situation to a degree. The first thing that comes to mind is making FC houses have a 'minimum player count' attached to them, based on house size, to prevent single-player FCs from buying and holding an FC property. And if you go below that count, it ticks down a destruction timer while going back above adds a day on for each day you remain above the minimum (to prevent cheesing timer resets). If you want a 1-player FC for a meme tag, that's fine, but you shouldn't be able to squat on something intended for groups.
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Warmachine posted:The first thing that comes to mind is making FC houses have a 'minimum player count' attached to them, based on house size, to prevent single-player FCs from buying and holding an FC property. And if you go below that count, it ticks down a destruction timer while going back above adds a day on for each day you remain above the minimum (to prevent cheesing timer resets). I've thought about that but I feel like there's already a natural selection aspect to it. FCs have multiple bids on a plot. So an FC with 100 members can, technically, have all 100 members on the plot. I was able to upgrade my FC house during the 2nd round. Found this lovely medium in Lavender Beds. By the end, there were 6 votes on it, three were from my FC. We were lucky enough to win it. Any FC with a ton of members will already have an advantage when obtaining a new house. If, on the other hand, you're referring to large "joke" FCs that have already scooped up larges and mediums years ago, that's a different conversation. The real problem isn't joke FCs, it's players with multiple accounts & FCs. I'm in an airship/sub discord and people will often have conversations about how many shell FCs they have. One person talked about having somewhere around 8 shell FCs across too accounts. Another guy has 80+ across 4 accounts across the entire datacenter.
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jalapeno_dude posted:goons comprehending that other people might be more sensitive to spoilers than they are challenge [impossible] You were the person in Sanguinia’s Stormblood LP thread arguing that telling them the expansion was called “Crimson Liberators” in Japanese was a spoiler
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SirSamVimes posted:can you not post untagged spoilers such as the fact that zenos didn't even die in stormblood On the one hand, I feel like somebody hell-bent on avoiding even the login screen trailer is probably not going to be hanging out anywhere near forum threads, where there is a significant chance of being inadvertently spoiled. On the other hand, I feel like someone diligent enough to successfully avoid the login screen trailer should be supported whole-heartedly in their ambitions. Who are we to deny them the fruits of that extreme labor?  In any case, if you're going to poke anyone about openly spoiling (post-StB spoilers I guess but if you're following this conversation you surely already know what's in here)Zenos' resurrection it should be Kwyndig rather than Madmarker (who quoted them), seeing as said quote originally contained the phrase (EW spoiler if you don't watch login screen trailers)"Zenos in EW" without any spoiler bar at all, let alone a note on which expansion the spoiler is for. It's entirely fair to say that the link should be tagged with the expansion name to prevent post-StB-pre-EW folks from accidentally spoiling themselves on EW content, IMO, but that's an issue with a somewhat different focus than your complaint.
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Chillgamesh posted:You were the person in Sanguinia’s Stormblood LP thread arguing that telling them the expansion was called “Crimson Liberators” in Japanese was a spoiler lol
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Must suck to be Japanese and buy an expansion and be spoiled just looking at the box...
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Can't believe that Shadowbringers was named "Tataru Was An Ascian All Along" for its japanese release.
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Chillgamesh posted:You were the person in Sanguinia’s Stormblood LP thread arguing that telling them the expansion was called “Crimson Liberators” in Japanese was a spoiler Yep, and Sanguinia thanked the person who wrote the post for editing it to hide the color information for the expansions they hadn't gotten to! jalapeno_dude fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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jalapeno_dude posted:Yep, and Sanguinia thanked the person who wrote the post for editing it to hide the color information for the expansions they hadn't gotten to! Which was in fact the discussion, not Crimson Liberators but the names for Shadowbringers and Endwalker.
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jalapeno_dude posted:Yep, and Sanguinia thanked the person who wrote the post for editing it to hide the color information for the expansions they hadn't gotten to! Making a grand false equivalence between determining what is/what is not a spoiler and a blanket thread policy of not discussing future expansions for any reason
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ImpAtom posted:The dude literally appears in the opening video for the last two expansions. He was all over the advertising. I looked at a review of Endwalker and it is literally a picture of him. I think that particular spoiler is well and truly out of the bag. Just use spoiler tags it really isn't that hard. Then again I don't have a horse in this race because I don't check the thread or leave fc chat on when new content is out until I've done it because ya'll suck so much at them.
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Lord_Magmar posted:Which was in fact the discussion, not Crimson Liberators but the names for Shadowbringers and Endwalker. TBH I don't really see what the Japanese titles of those two expacs imply that isn't already implied in the English titles.
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Ibblebibble posted:TBH I don't really see what the Japanese titles of those two expacs imply that isn't already implied in the English titles. Pitch Black Villains has a hugely different intention than Shadowbringers. But also the issue at hand wasn't whether they were actually spoilers, but that talking about those things before they're things Sanguinia would encounter if they were playing at the time the game came out. Talking about future stuff outside spoilers in that thread is against the thread rules, it's just that simple.
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Lord_Magmar posted:Pitch Black Villains has a hugely different intention than Shadowbringers. But also the issue at hand wasn't whether they were actually spoilers, but that talking about those things before they're things Sanguinia would encounter if they were playing at the time the game came out. Not really, you can read Shadowbringers the same way. Shadowbringer sure sounds like a villainous title. Also Sanguinia has already said that she knows what the English titles of the expacs are, so there's really 0 point in hiding the Japanese titles either. Ibblebibble fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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As someone who posted about the JP titles, I ended up editing less because "omg JP titles are spoiler!!!" and more because the threads had a history of people ending up slipping into endgame spoiler stuff and talking about anything from the future could lead to piggybacking more spoilers. Spoiler culture is a complicated business: obviously if a twist is ruined by spoilers it's a bad twist but for mr it can drop my motivation wo watch/read/play the media. Edit: of course it's not like my post was needed since mods had to edit the post after the very first SB update for spoilers. GiantRockFromSpace fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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Almost every player ward is full but I saw a small in Kugane and tossed my bid in as lucky number 117. lol. Time to start watching apartments I guess or bite the bullet on a FC room, better never leave my FC.
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I didn't think housing situation is this dire, I remember seeing plenty of empty plots years ago, I even managed to buy house twice (I lost the first one). I suppose this might be an effect of booming game population and suspension of reclamations.
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Ibblebibble posted:TBH I don't really see what the Japanese titles of those two expacs imply that isn't already implied in the English titles. I'd say that knowing both can lead to speculation over what the differences can mean, etc.
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That reminds me, didn't the devs say during a live letter or an interview or something a few years back that "Stormblood" wasn't actually their first choice (or even in their top ten choices) for the English title of that expansion, but it's the one they eventually had to settle for because all of the other choices they'd picked were already copyrighted by other IPs?
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Chillgamesh posted:You were the person in Sanguinia’s Stormblood LP thread arguing that telling them the expansion was called “Crimson Liberators” in Japanese was a spoiler Every time with the spoiler criers. Lord_Magmar posted:Pitch Black Villains has a hugely different intention than Shadowbringers. Not really. Shadow/Darkness has had a connection to the bad guys for 8 years at the point ShB came out so "The Person Bringing Darkness to the world" is pretty obvious villain coding. About 10% less obvious that "PITCH BLACK VILLAINS" but it is clearly the same intention. Argas posted:I'd say that knowing both can lead to speculation over what the differences can mean, etc. Okay but that's not....a spoiler.
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Getting the vapours over marginally different implications of the openly advertised names of the expansions does seem like a good illustration of how stupid spoilerphobia is in itself
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Im just going to start posting like this forever. Get owned newbies. Thou shalt never know my thoughts again
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Control Volume posted:Im just going to start posting like this forever. Get owned newbies. Thou shalt never know my thoughts again post/username combo
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