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I’m starting in on the Black Eagles and I love Seteth talking to Edelgard after her proposal to use the church to overthrow her uncle like she’s just proposed a particularly risky Independent Study and if she has been lying to go gently caress around at the mall with her creepy goth friend she won’t be able to walk at graduation.
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Blaziken386 posted:correct me if i'm wrong, but does ike ever actually touch the fire emblem? I could've sworn that only mist (and the herons) ever does, because one time he tried to touch it as a kid and his dad (understandably) flipped his poo poo. It's Heroes Canon that there's a universe with Berserk!Ike, for whatever that's worth. Maybe Cipher too, it certainly wouldn't surprise me.
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Jun 16, 2022 05:31
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I'm so upset that Lorenz' dad's hair is the same as his (post TS in three houses). It makes sense, but... I wanted Lorenz' hair to be an independent choice he made, but it looks like it's some sort of family tradition. I wonder if every Gloucester for years has gotten the same awful and strange bowlcut upon entry to Garreg Mach to grow out or if it changes based on the trends. On the other hand, Lorenz' rose effects are very cool.
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Jun 16, 2022 06:47
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The Deer all showing up to help isn't weird at all even without White Clouds. It's less a bond of personal affection like it is in Three Houses and more of a practical consideration, though. Claude is repeatedly shown to be basically desperate for associates and acquaintances he can rely on to get poo poo done outside of the stifling paralysis of the Alliance government - it's why he hires Shez, after all - so it's really not weird for him to go "well I spent a month with these people and we fought together before in a couple of decent-sized battles, including against a full-scale Almyran invasion, and it worked well, so I'm going to send some messages and ask for their support". As for why they'd respond, well, Claude's the leader of a powerful noble house and also first among equals in the Alliance government, so doing favors for him is an extremely prudent idea.
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Jun 16, 2022 08:08
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There's good reasons for all the golden deer to return Claude, Lorenz, Hilda, and Lysithea are politically obligated in one way or another, and Marianne's dad is also motivated to send her. Ignatz works directly under Lorenz, and Raphael is best buds with Ignatz so of course he's going. Leonie is a merc.
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Jun 16, 2022 13:57
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I just want to be able to recruit Lysithea into her proper house.
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Jun 16, 2022 14:01
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I love Claude and I am excited to play this game
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Jun 16, 2022 14:02
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lunar detritus posted:I just want to be able to recruit Lysithea into her proper house. Lysithea was the one unit who could be recruited after chapter 13 in Three Houses, solely to give players one last chance at getting her to her correct faction. If there are any recruitment mechanics in the game at all (I can’t imagine there won’t be), this will have to be an option.
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Jun 16, 2022 14:10
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Lysithea was the one unit who could be recruited after chapter 13 in Three Houses, solely to give players one last chance at getting her to her correct faction. Post campaign lets you do whatever you like in other Warriors games, so you could have Edelgard, Claude, Dimitri and Hubert all on the same team if you wanted, that's how Age of Calamity let you save Hyrule playing as Calamity Ganon after all.
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Jun 16, 2022 14:38
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Lysithea was the one unit who could be recruited after chapter 13 in Three Houses, solely to give players one last chance at getting her to her correct faction. You could also recruit Ashe and rerecruit Lorenz on certain routes after post-skip as well, I believe.
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Jun 16, 2022 14:50
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Those were all characters leaving and rejoining you, not joining for the first time.
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Jun 16, 2022 14:55
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It was fun to see Ashe on the other side, knock him down in one hit, then recruit him back. I pictured Byleth bonking him over the head with their sword and then doing the disappointed teacher look while saying "well, have you thought about what you did, young man?"
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Jun 16, 2022 15:14
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Lysithea may be a good fit for the Black Eagles, but she's already in the correct house. 
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Jun 16, 2022 15:18
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Three Hopes really shows how much of an afterthought Golden Deer was. Gotta create an invasion because there was nothing to use from three houses.
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lunar detritus posted:Three Hopes really shows how much of an afterthought Golden Deer was. Gotta create an invasion because there was nothing to use from three houses. I don't know about that, I thought it was cool to see more about the Almyrans given how big a part of Claude's backstory they are. Meeting Shahid and getting a glimpse at the sort of politics Claude/Khalid has been dealing with over there went a long way to explaining why he's always seemed so distracted in Three Houses - he's basically got two different Fire Emblem games going on at once and has to keep running back and forth between them.
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lunar detritus posted:Three Hopes really shows how much of an afterthought Golden Deer was. Gotta create an invasion because there was nothing to use from three houses. "There is constant political infighting between Leicester's nominally equal noble houses not beholden to an absolute monarch like the other two nations" and "Fodlan's first and primary line of defense against a very powerful neighboring country that has expansionist ambitions" are both extremely strong and interesting story hooks, but both of them are largely divorced from Three Houses's primary thrust being about church politics, dragons, and an evil underground techno-cult so they didn't get a lot of time in the sun. If anything, Three Hopes might give the Golden Deer more of their own niche with more Almyran stuff, because that stuff was Claude(and to a lesser extent, all the nobles in the Deer)'s primary focus up until Three Houses happened.
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Jun 16, 2022 15:25
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Did they mention any sort of mission mode? That was my favorite part of the first fire emblem warriors and I want to pick my favorite characters and make a dream team instead of being stuck with one house.
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Overbite posted:Did they mention any sort of mission mode? That was my favorite part of the first fire emblem warriors and I want to pick my favorite characters and make a dream team instead of being stuck with one house. No. The battle missions in a chapter that isn't the main mission already serve a similiar purpose.
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Jun 16, 2022 16:51
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Overbite posted:Did they mention any sort of mission mode? That was my favorite part of the first fire emblem warriors and I want to pick my favorite characters and make a dream team instead of being stuck with one house. No announcement for sure, but I speculate there might be based on some datamine stuff. Very light spoilers but I'll keep it barred for safety's sake: Certain characters have map sprites for all four faction colors even if it makes no sense whatsoever. This might be because of some sort of bug-prevention thing or indicating characters showing up in bizarre situations not possible in the main game.
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found a video of the various unique quotes in new Fire Emblem and monica, please  
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Jun 16, 2022 19:53
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Not sure if I missed it on Azure Gleam, but on Crimson Blaze the NPC that mentions Abyss days their inhabitants are fighting for Garech Mach but it might be worth recruiting them, so the Ashen Wolves probably enemy bosses you can recruit after beating them (main quest or side mission, no idea of that)
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Blaziken386 posted:found a video of the various unique quotes in new Fire Emblem and Literally me. I love her so much.
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Also the conceit of this game and the playable characters are kind of a hilarious juxtaposition. Cutting through literal hundreds of mooks makes sense as Shez or Byleth or Catherine or Dimitri, but it kind of falls apart when you think a little bit about how or why Manuela is a whirlwind of death with her fists if you class her that way
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Deltasquid posted:Also the conceit of this game and the playable characters are kind of a hilarious juxtaposition. Cutting through literal hundreds of mooks makes sense as Shez or Byleth or Catherine or Dimitri, but it kind of falls apart when you think a little bit about how or why Manuela is a whirlwind of death with her fists if you class her that way
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Deltasquid posted:Also the conceit of this game and the playable characters are kind of a hilarious juxtaposition. Cutting through literal hundreds of mooks makes sense as Shez or Byleth or Catherine or Dimitri, but it kind of falls apart when you think a little bit about how or why Manuela is a whirlwind of death with her fists if you class her that way If they were going to limit playable characters, making it just people with crests would've been one way to do it AND make it make sense in the narrative. I don't think it would've been a good choice, but it certainly is one. 
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Manuela punching everyone to death is absolutely in character.
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Jun 16, 2022 21:58
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Deltasquid posted:Also the conceit of this game and the playable characters are kind of a hilarious juxtaposition. Cutting through literal hundreds of mooks makes sense as Shez or Byleth or Catherine or Dimitri, but it kind of falls apart when you think a little bit about how or why Manuela is a whirlwind of death with her fists if you class her that way If anything, the Three Houses crew is the most logical Fire Emblem cast for mowing down armies of mooks, since battalions existing meant it was quite possible to have your solo folks routing regiments of enemy soldiers.
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Deltasquid posted:Also the conceit of this game and the playable characters are kind of a hilarious juxtaposition. Cutting through literal hundreds of mooks makes sense as Shez or Byleth or Catherine or Dimitri, but it kind of falls apart when you think a little bit about how or why Manuela is a whirlwind of death with her fists if you class her that way The Zelda fanbase went through this when Agatha and Tingle threw down over in Hyrule Warriors, just don't think about it and you'll be fine.
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as a musou veteran I can assure you that you'll grow accustomed to everybody being an unstoppable killing machine in gameplay terms regardless of actual skill or personality
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Judge Tesla posted:The Zelda fanbase went through this when Agatha and Tingle threw down over in Hyrule Warriors, just don't think about it and you'll be fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l04oI4VJJwU
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I wouldn't be surprised if beating the game unlocked an unlimited free play replay all missions mode, to be honest.
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If I can just have Felix walk straight forward and massacre everything in front of him then it's an accurate retelling of 3H
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tingle and agitha are internationally wanted war criminals did you guys just not keep up with zelda lore it's like you guys didn't even play the japan only spin off that was only released for the super ngage+
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Got to the end of chapter four with Black Eagles, I'll probably go do the other two routes to see what they're up to and get to know their characters, and then maybe grind out some support conversations. This isn't my Switch, so I won't really be able to transfer my save data over to the full version anyway, so I'll have to start over whenever I get a Switch and buy the game. Monica's C level is kind of funny though. "Why didn't you watch Edelgard eating? You idiot!" On another note I kind of hope that it's easier to regain training/activity points in the full game, that's the one criticism I have at the moment, but it's hard to say if it's even a problem at all since the game is pretty clearly easing you into the systems and isn't necessarily representative of what later chapters will be like.
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Deltasquid posted:Also the conceit of this game and the playable characters are kind of a hilarious juxtaposition. Cutting through literal hundreds of mooks makes sense as Shez or Byleth or Catherine or Dimitri, but it kind of falls apart when you think a little bit about how or why Manuela is a whirlwind of death with her fists if you class her that way There's a reason her class is Assassin if she doesn't join anyone after the skip...
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Deltasquid posted:Also the conceit of this game and the playable characters are kind of a hilarious juxtaposition. Cutting through literal hundreds of mooks makes sense as Shez or Byleth or Catherine or Dimitri, but it kind of falls apart when you think a little bit about how or why Manuela is a whirlwind of death with her fists if you class her that way She has Drunk White Lady strength.
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I feel very cheated whenever I unlock a support level that doesn't have a conversation associated with it. It's so bizarre that Monica and Edel's C has nothing when their interaction is so highly emphasized everywhere else
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You don't need words to showcase Monica's love
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Twelve by Pies posted:On another note I kind of hope that it's easier to regain training/activity points in the full game, that's the one criticism I have at the moment, but it's hard to say if it's even a problem at all since the game is pretty clearly easing you into the systems and isn't necessarily representative of what later chapters will be like. One of the pop-ups say they replenish every time you advance the story, which I’m guessing is the main way to get them. Training gives a shitload of class exp and activities seem to be the big drivers of support points, so they look like they’re balanced by being limited.
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Just having a non mission way to get support is super nice. Granted I think they got rid of skill sharing in general, but if they didn't you will be VERY thankful you don't need to do hundreds of missions with whoever has the astra equivalent to share to your entire army. 
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