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Am I understanding this right? What’s likely to happen is that Mercedes and the other bouncy cars have to have their entire underbody redone and it will require testing in the wind tunnel to find out what works to stop it. Which could take weeks or longer, and until then they have to raise their ride height and lose a ton of downforce and probably a second+ per lap? LMAO
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a pipe smoking dog posted:They should bring back mass dampers, active suspension, traction control, Basically as much poo poo as they can. For sure. Fun fact: Indycar solves porpoising by using mass dampers (possibly amongst other things). They also have rules where you lose your fastest lap(s) in qualifying if you cause a red or yellow flag
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Thanks Ants posted:Frog International Assistance
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opposable thumbs.db posted:For sure. Fun fact: Indycar solves porpoising by using mass dampers (possibly amongst other things). They also have rules where you lose your fastest lap(s) in qualifying if you cause a red or yellow flag That's a great rule F1 should adopt it.
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MrMojok posted:Am I understanding this right? They probably know exactly what the answer is right now but it's a quarter second slower per lap.
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Won't they just implement a minimum ride height? The bouncing stops if they raise the car, but no one wants to do that as they lose performance relative to the other teams
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Skarsnik posted:Won't they just implement a minimum ride height? Right now it seems possible to design a car that is fast, low, and doesn't bounce too much.
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The skid plate limits certainly suggests a ride height thing anyway
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It's pretty apt for FIA to implement a series of bullshit rules rather than allowing modern suspension tech on their top spec.
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Serjeant Buzfuz posted:That's a great rule F1 should adopt it. Watched Indycar for the first time in my life on Sunday because it was at Road America and there a bunch of things F1 could adopt.
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Bip Roberts posted:They probably know exactly what the answer is right now but it's a quarter second slower per lap. I guess everyone did see the floor of the RB18 in Monaco didn’t they, when Cheka’s had to be winched off the track
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:I get the feeling he'd like nothing better than to go gently caress off to Whistler and snowboard for the rest of his life if it wasn't for Big Lawrence. I've had that feeling for a while tbh. He seems like he wouldn't mind being a failson that goes surfing or snowboarding all the time but in his defense he does seem to put the work in to be a competent midfield binman
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Well, so long Mercedes-Binz!
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This weekend it’s time for the sandbags to come off for real!
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MrMojok posted:I guess everyone did see the floor of the RB18 in Monaco didn’t they, when Cheka’s had to be winched off the track Ironically, last year Merc proved suspension that reacted differently based on the car's speed was legal. RBR took their concept, flipped it, and have suspension that's stiffer the more load is on it. They were bouncing everywhere in Bahrain testing, brought in the new suspension and they've hardly bounced since. The whole paddock know this, but it's cheaper to do performative chiropractic dancing than it is to certify test and install a new suspension design, which is why we're getting a whinge siren instead. The FIA statement should be read as "you will not make your car bounce the driver to death to gain a tenth" and the irony of porpoising Khablam fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Jun 17, 2022 |
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Rhopunzel posted:in anticipation of canada, never forget You could argue that Sato passing Alonso there cost Alonso the 2007 World Title. I'm not saying you should as I don't remember where they finished at the end of the race, but you could! Also the best commentary was from the Indy 500 for Sato. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyOdeh0Pu_U I cant find the 2012 commentary where he takes the lead on the final lap and crashes 
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Serious question, has Max ever hinted at wanting to drive for any other team (Ferrari) in the past? Just wondering if he would go the Seb route of dominating for a few years, have an off season and switch teams. I don't see him having the same redemption as Seb though.
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Custard Undies posted:Serious question, has Max ever hinted at wanting to drive for any other team (Ferrari) in the past? I don’t think so. He always stated he is happy at RBR and in it for the long haul. The only thing that got close was in 2017 when the Renault engine was making GBS threads the bed and he reiterated that the team really needs to fix the reliability issues. That had a vaguely implied “or else” sound to it. But nothing serious as far as I’m aware.
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Khablam posted:It's not the floor, it's the suspension. Hmm, interesting! I wasn’t aware of the suspension. This was what I was thinking of and just now found this article where they talk about the known differences between the floors of the RB18 and the F1-75: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...qBebMJPZqF.html
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How Passione (R) can Ferrari fit into the cars now the whole thing looks like a washout? No overheating at least one would imagine...
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Max would crumble at another team, without Horner following him around catching his nuggets of poop with his mouth and telling him what a big brave boy he is.
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LMFAO, this is truly the snarkiest of threads.
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:Max would crumble at another team, without Horner following him around catching his nuggets of poop with his mouth and telling him what a big brave boy he is. It's amazing he can speak so clearly from the pit will during every session.
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Max almost signed as a Merc junior before they offered him the Toro Rosso seat. Ferrari and iirc Sauber where also interested. He seems set for life at RB now though.
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Khablam posted:and have suspension that's stiffer the more load is on it. this is true of every suspension
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Zedd posted:Max almost signed as a Merc junior before they offered him the Toro Rosso seat. Ferrari and iirc Sauber where also interested. I also hope he serves life
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ArmZ posted:this is true of every suspension Not really, you can have both linear and progressive suspension systems (from my experience with MTB at least)
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if theyre worried about costs just go back to leaf springs
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I'd love to see someone build a car to modern F1 rules with a beam axle
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Lots of rain in Mtl. There's been a big system moving through last 24h maybe a repeat of Spa '21 after not having this race for 2 fuckin years
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SocksAndSandals posted:Lots of rain in Mtl. There's been a big system moving through last 24h That would be hilarious. 
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Custard Undies posted:That would be hilarious. It would be so funny
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Phwoar George to qualify P2 again
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SocksAndSandals posted:Lots of rain in Mtl. There's been a big system moving through last 24h Weather’s actually been pretty mild and consistent in this region this year, I wouldn’t bet on much fun. Gonna be chilly though.
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SocksAndSandals posted:Lots of rain in Mtl. There's been a big system moving through last 24h lafiti in the points 2022 LETS GO
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Custard Undies posted:Serious question, has Max ever hinted at wanting to drive for any other team (Ferrari) in the past? it seems like if you’re the #1 driver at red bull it’s a pretty loving good gig, and if you’re #2 then you get told to eat poo poo and smile because it’s better than nothing max would have to do badly one season and a young upstart would have to do extremely well to change that dynamic, and it seems like red bull is more than happy to keep checo and max together for as long as checo’s ego can handle it
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Bold prediction: the Wall of Champions gets back to business this weekend.
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Declan MacManus posted:it seems like if you’re the #1 driver at red bull it’s a pretty loving good gig, and if you’re #2 then you get told to eat poo poo and smile because it’s better than nothing sucks for Max, but hey, team orders are team orders
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