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fadam posted:Sometimes it's fun to spend money on dumb poo poo. that's part of the value for me, opening stuff is fun. i know I'll get stuff i want, not super concerned about monetary value. though collectors boosters are not fun for me...
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to be clear, i wasn't trying to harsh on anyone who genuinely enjoys opening packs; it just seems like the last several times that resale/mtgfinance sort of stuff came up in here it always sounded super disappointed and very much not enjoying what they were doing. if people are still enjoying themselves by all means continue to do so. if you're spending your money and having fun doing so, that's the important thing. i don't have the money or the inclination to make a thread about speculating on cards/packs/boxes but i do think it'd be very helpful to separate that discussion out from talking about gameplay -- for example, i don't think i saw a single post about actually playing commander legends 2 in here, just a bunch of talk about how it had poor EV + i think a few times (especially early on when i was just getting into mtg) i got a bit blindsided by similarly wanting to discuss gameplay and getting responses about money/resale/etc. it's clearly something a lot of people here like talking about and have a lot of experience with, and i think someone who has that knowledge should definitely make a thread
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Jun 17, 2022 20:49
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Exactly one year ago, almost to the day, the biggest exception to the rule of "don't crack packs, buy singles" was released: Modern Horizons 2. I just kept buying boxes, cracking them, trading 80% of the pulls back to my LGS, and using the credit for another box. Was hoping I could do something similar this summer with CMB, another hyped premium set. Got one set box on pre-release day and noooooope. Was just about as bad as the boxes in the prof's videos. Interesting that the dual lands and dragons have appreciated a good amount since the video, likely because nothing else is contributing to the value in the box and not many packs are being ripped.
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Leperflesh posted:E. this isn't just for you, flatluigi. I like that magic youtube guy to a degree, but a video of him showing yet again that cracking packs is money-losing, while funny, also seems to just be aimed at posters cracking packs. We don't need to restart that debate via posting videos either. The video's good, and it's good to get the word out that the set is low value. Not every person in the thread keeps their finger on the pulse. If posting the prof's occasional box-cracking video is against the thread rules, it's the rule that's the problem, not the video.
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If you ban the professor, ban me 
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We have a finance thread. No one posts
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Toshimo posted:The video's good, and it's good to get the word out that the set is low value. Not every person in the thread keeps their finger on the pulse. Alright. I didn't watch it. If the video is showing something unusual, that's reasonable.
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Leperflesh posted:this isn't just for you, flatluigi. I like that magic youtube guy to a degree, but a video of him showing yet again that cracking packs is money-losing, while funny, also seems to just be aimed at posters cracking packs. We don't need to restart that debate via posting videos either. Add onto the extremely obvious statement of wotc throwing all the poo poo that should be in this set into the super overpriced masters set coming out soon and I think it's a bit more different of a situation than the typical Cracking Packs Is For Suckers refrain of previous sets.
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Jun 17, 2022 21:43
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Baldur's Gate is just a terrible set and it's really not at all clear who it's for
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coelomate posted:Interesting that the dual lands and dragons have appreciated a good amount since the video, likely because nothing else is contributing to the value in the box and not many packs are being ripped.
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Party Miser posted:I got like seventy bucks in value out if my set booster box, and I'm pleased because of the amount of useful stuff i got (that would have been cheaper if singles were bought ¯\_(ツ)_/¯). pretty deece username + post combo
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Toshimo posted:The video's good, and it's good to get the word out that the set is low value. Not every person in the thread keeps their finger on the pulse. I never open packs or watch the videos, could you tell me when the last couple times cracking a box was good value? Thanks in advance.
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Lone Goat posted:I never open packs or watch the videos, could you tell me when the last couple times cracking a box was good value? Thanks in advance. When I cracked it with friends and we all had fun. Not monetary value, mind you
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Literally a few posts up, modern horizons 2. I was able to do the same with the mh2 set boxes I opened, cracked about a dozen of them, 3 at a time, sold the results, used that to buy more set boxes. Mh2 is genuinely a great set to crack packs of, the box distribution of great cards was rock solid. So much good stuff to get and basically every box had at least a few huge hits. And then if you got an etched foil retro frame misty rainforest or whatever, that pays for like half the box itself. When I stopped I was down about 100 bucks but had a 3000ct box full of mh2 stuff including a couple inches of good stuff I could have sold but decided to keep, like a few retro fetches, esper sentinels, etc. I really can't think of any other sets on that level of cracking quality.
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i think you're the perfect person to go make that mtg finances thread, captain invictus
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TheKingofSprings posted:Baldur's Gate is just a terrible set and it's really not at all clear who it's for Despite going in thinking that commander + limited is a bad combo, I've had more good games than bad games. It's a small sample, and a large factor is that I liked the people I was playing with. But to add to this, I've seen some interesting decks with some fun, interactive play. The games I played all had a decent forward velocity, so they didn't overstay their welcome. Also, I like all the dragons. Dragons are great, and this set has lots and lots.
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HootTheOwl posted:We have a finance thread. No one posts It was created to fail. It happens every single time a mod tries to quarantine a certain topic that is kind of integral to the greater topic. You can't remove mtgfinance from a MTG thread, especially if WOTC is embracing it as a business strategy. Its kind of like when people call for banning links to twitter, despite more than half of all magic news coming from that medium.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Baldur's Gate is just a terrible set and it's really not at all clear who it's for it was timed to come out with the release of bg3 originally is what it was for, then the video game got delayed into like next year
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are there any more double masters spoilers for the love of christ
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I foiled out my fetches in my pet deck on tcgplayer for waaay less than I would have ever imagined thanks to mh2. Do it again, wotc
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StrugglingHoneybun posted:I foiled out my fetches in my pet deck on tcgplayer for waaay less than I would have ever imagined thanks to mh2. I too own foil bogles. Fight me.
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I had a box of kamigawa that was almost certainly the result of randomization error at the packaging facility. Total was like $600+. 3 borderless boseijus, borderlesses of every dragon and every other land, wandering emperor, phyrexian tamiyo, showcase gitaxias I never expect to break even, and the experience of opening packs and reading cards is the fun part for me. I avoid spoilers for the most part so I'm seeing every card for the first time usually. Then I cobble together a couple low-power decks based on the cool sounding draft archetypes and call it a day. It's worked for several sets so far but baldurs gate set boosters were a big flop. I made 85% of the cost back but there wasn't enough card diversity/stock to make any fun decks. It'll be fixed and fun with another ~$30 but buying singles is just so boring lol. Anyway that's my report as a Weird Broken Consumer. I engage with products in weird, uncommon, and insane ways and I've just kind of accepted it about myself.
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kalel posted:are there any more double masters spoilers for the love of christ Sure. Still all reprints.
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Sickening posted:I too own foil bogles. Fight me. Did you draw your leyline? This is the only part of the fight that will matter
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Did those who didn't watch the video what makes CL2 so bad was: The boxes weren't just bad, they were all under fifty (less than half the price of the box) and the third one was only worth eight dollars. Also, by all accounts the draft environment is/was good.
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Sickening posted:It was created to fail. It happens every single time a mod tries to quarantine a certain topic that is kind of integral to the greater topic. You can't remove mtgfinance from a MTG thread, especially if WOTC is embracing it as a business strategy. Which thread are we talking about?
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Captain Invictus posted:the dual lands and dragons are valuable because they're both somewhat desired by people and also not in any of the loving boxes. The frequency for them is on par with jeweled lotus, hell, prof's video showcases it perfectly. He got ONE dragon and ZERO duals in THREE boxes. And the collector boxes I've seen cracked, maybe has one or two dragons in them and a couple duals. Wotc super overtuned the drop rate for stuff this time around and it's really obvious
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kalel posted:are there any more double masters spoilers for the love of christ 
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Is Fiery Justice the worst Masters reprint rare? Everything else in the set seems fine to good but holy cow is this a stinker.
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HootTheOwl posted:Did those who didn't watch the video what makes CL2 so bad was: Whoever did the calculation graphic hosed up on the second box, and third box, when he pulled a Morphic Pool it was not counted and the total didn't change, on the third he pulled an Ink Eyes in the second to last pack and for some reason the total just went and subtracted itself. Was he not counting stuff from the List? https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/double-masters-2022-against-the-odds-style-exclusive-double-masters-2022-previews Also count me as someone that likes the alt frames on the cards a hell of a lot more than the default just on being able to read them easier.
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dominator posted:Is Fiery Justice the worst Masters reprint rare? Everything else in the set seems fine to good but holy cow is this a stinker. I wish I had a link to the tweet but bad rares, especially reprints, are on purpose.
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kalel posted:are there any more double masters spoilers for the love of christ GAAIV, Bitterblossom, Consecrated Sphinx too. This really is cEDH masters and I'm here for it
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I am not a paper player but had intended to buy some of the LotR set because, well, <---, but I think I want a copy of this to display. Holy poo poo.
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Double+Masters+2022/Dragon+Arch Holy loving poo poo how is this card getting reprinted still at uncommon?????
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Jiro posted:https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Double+Masters+2022/Dragon+Arch for the limited environment of course 
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big cummers ONLY posted:Anyway that's my report as a Weird Broken Consumer. I engage with products in weird, uncommon, and insane ways and I've just kind of accepted it about myself. TBH I'm pretty sure you actually engage with this product specifically in basically the normal way and the super engaged people who exclusively buy singles are, in the grand scheme of things at least, the weirdos. Maro's endless refrain is always "the most popular format is kitchen table Cards I Own."
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Jiro posted:https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Double+Masters+2022/Dragon+Arch It seems like the perfect uncommon design tbh
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mandatory lesbian posted:It seems like the perfect uncommon design tbh I guess I'm looking at it from an EDH perspective of pairing it with enough mana after it's cast and other enchantments or artifacts or creature abilities that allow you to untap permanents, so you just keep doing that poo poo multiple times a turn if you have the correct setup to just go looking for creatures in your deck that are multicolored.
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