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Story Musgrave flew his last shuttle mission in 1996 at the age of 61. So I don't think that Ed flying is outrageous or anything. And I feel like a crazy outlier that I don't hate the Karen/Danny storyline. I mean it was definitely a what the gently caress kind of feeling when it happened, even tho it had been well telegraphed. But I feel it's in character with Karen at the time and Danny is just carrying on the tradition of Stevens hosed uped-ness.
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For a second when Karen was yelling at Danny about needing to stop I felt like she was the audience and Danny was the writers.
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Did they remove the between season videos? I went to go watch the rest of the videos from between 1 and 2, but now all of them are just gone.
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Cojawfee posted:Did they remove the between season videos? I went to go watch the rest of the videos from between 1 and 2, but now all of them are just gone. I believe they did. I know I had watched those before but couldn’t find them again when I looked.
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:For a second when Karen was yelling at Danny about needing to stop I felt like she was the audience and Danny was the writers. Sadly, the scene with Danny stalking Karen's house in the middle of the night seems to suggest this will be a major plot point for the season 
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A nod to the Helios guy being an Elon analog that was a little too on the nose was the engine being named the Osprey. The engines that power the SpaceX Falcon rocket are named after types of falcon (kestrel and merlin) Sci-fi shows please stop inflating Elon's ego Raere fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jun 18, 2022 |
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On the one hand I really like the idea of an actual egalitarian group beating squabbling nation states… bbbut it does feel more techbro than techcoop. So hopefully it shits the bed like the hotel instead of jacking off private enterprise as the saviors of human spaceflight.
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Dr. Sneer Gory posted:And I feel like a crazy outlier that I don't hate the Karen/Danny storyline. on the other hand, it's not great that they're keeping on with it because it truly blows rear end
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DamnGlitch posted:On the one hand I really like the idea of an actual egalitarian group beating squabbling nation states… bbbut it does feel more techbro than techcoop. Everyone's equal... But the entire company comes and pays attention to smelon brusk the moment he asks for it. He's also the one that gets to go to the middle of nowhere and offer millions of dollars. Nobody has job titles, but I doubt the guy at the water cooler could interrupt his not-bosses day in the middle of the day to discuss switching to a new brand of toner in the printer.
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I am just over 10 minutes into the latest ep and I loving hate Elroy Monks jesus christ I can remember seeing footage of the DCX prototype or whatever it was called taking off and landing on it's engines on the discovery channel in the 90s, do all these space nerds out there really think he pulled propulsive landing out of his rear end? Like nobody wanted to build colonies in far off places for various reasons before the fuckboy poured his parents' money into it? Fuuuck aragioahgi. lol I'm sorry this isn't the show's fault the world we live in is a gently caress e: Ed NO gently caress Ed's going on whatever the 90s equal of joe rogan next week isn't he e2: free enterprise zone? fuckin really? I'm bleeding out my ears Tighclops fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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Tighclops posted:Ed's going on whatever the 90s equal of joe rogan next week isn't he Worse, this is the early-90s with the rise of Rush Limbaugh and Pat Buchanan getting regular guest spots on CNN. I wonder if they'll do an analog of Rush's idiotic "America under Occupation" or whatever his schtick was during the Clinton Years. With an outed Ellen I would guess it would make "Shrillary" look mild.
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Tighclops posted:before the fuckboy poured his parents' money into it? Fuuuck aragioahgi. Don't forget the fat and juicy gov subsidies and tax breaks
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Is it too much to hope that, Space CEO turns out to be evil, Soviet, NASA & Helios missions all run into issues and have to cooperate to complete the mission with a joint 'first' landing Margo gets revealed as a soviet spy and has to resign in disgrace Ed and Danielle's skills are needed to compliment each other and the relationship repairs after Ed apologises for being a racist old man To mend bridges, Ed agrees that Danielle be the first person on Mars Danielle becomes administrator of NASA going into the 2000s. Next season starts with a permanent colony on Mars
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Space_Wizard posted:Is it too much to hope that, I can see all of this happening except the first. I don't see this show going as simple as just having a straight up evil character. It's more sophisticated than that.
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Grand Fromage posted:I don't see this show going as simple as just having a straight up evil character. it's tough knowing whether the writers actually think any part of the Helios operation is Actually Cool And Good, it reads to me like a bunch of rinky-dink wannabees who are gonna get people killed we'll know by the end of the season whether their Valve Software assed office structure turns out to be a boondoggle or the blueprint for that Season 7 intergalactic federation
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Yeah, my bet at this point is that Big Love Elon will turn out to be some combination of over-confident, callous and moronic about things like celestial mechanics. Season 2 wound up being a bunch of disasters that they managed to wrap up together into a sort of package by the season finale, so hopefully (?) they're aiming for something similar with the Mars missions. Though it doesn't have to be the finale necessarily, they have to set the stage for season 4  Venus? Jovian moons?
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I was hoping Karen was visiting an archaeological site in the first scene. Let’s put dinos on the moon.
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They are going to make their OWN Mars mission! With blackjack and hookers!
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withak posted:You can tell whoever was assigned production of the “time passes” alt-history montage had a good time. Best part of the last 2 seasons
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Noob Saibot posted:Best part of the last 2 seasons Minus the part that it was riddled with errors
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Cojawfee posted:I love that Molly has a service dog that is completely useless aside from growling at people she doesn't like. a finer companion was never born
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:Service dogs are trained to not do that poo poo Ollie Cobb knows what his job is and he does it his own way. Molly wouldn't have it any other way.
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I have to say I don't hate the way the Karen/Danny storyline is turning out. It's quite clear that Karen isn't into it (which was my biggest concern because that's very... ew), but Danny is - and more importantly they're putting physical distance between the two so it'll become more of an Ed/Danny thing. I see the private trip being more "Nasa/the Soviets have prepared for years to do this and you've thrown this mission together" than anyone being evil. Nasa and the Soviets have been (quietly) working together to try and avoid any disasters, but Helios hasn't, so I suspect that will be what goes wrong on the way to Mars.
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:Service dogs are trained to not do that poo poo turns out it's not actually a service dog at all, she clearly doesn't need one and just uses her blindness as an excuse to have a dog that growls at people at work
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That'd be an interesting way for Margo to get outed actually. Some massively obscure engineering problem crops up on the Helios mission and nearly kills them all - NASA flags the problem as being why Helios should not be up there eg "This took the best NASA scientists working on this very specific problem and only this specific design avoids that issue" and everyone realises that the Soviets also have that very specific design.
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EvilHawk posted:I see the private trip being more "Nasa/the Soviets have prepared for years to do this and you've thrown this mission together" than anyone being evil. Nasa and the Soviets have been (quietly) working together to try and avoid any disasters, but Helios hasn't, so I suspect that will be what goes wrong on the way to Mars. Not to mention they've decided to go years before the establishment have decided it's a good idea. Nasa/the Soviets are either going to have to cut a lot of corners to go up sooner, hope the Helios mission goes wrong/is delayed or straight up sabotage it, which I can't see Nasa doing but certainly the Soviets would.
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nexus6 posted:Not to mention they've decided to go years before the establishment have decided it's a good idea. I thought the point was that NASA and the Soviets would have to build (even design?) their 2+ - year craft for the Mars voyage, shoot all that crap into orbit and assemble it etc., and they'd decided to aim for the launch window 4 years away, but Big Love bought the hotel which he at least thinks can be made into the ship itself, so all that's left is bringing their super methane cannons into orbit and bing bing bong, next window is 2 years away so suck it NASA?
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nooneofconsequence posted:I was hoping Karen was visiting an archaeological site in the first scene. Let’s put dinos on the moon. I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that opening of that scene and thought "Oh man, are they doing a nod to Jurassic Park here?"
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The Danny/Karen/Ed thing is real lovely and I’m not stoked on the inevitable Danny/Ed Mars drama. The show needs to invest in developing new characters each season so we don’t have unrealistically old people running around forever. Even Danielle is 48 at the start of this season, which is appropriate for her role but she ought to be among the oldest astronauts in the show now. Three decades into the shows timeline we have exactly two youngish astronauts, Aleida who’s story is good but she’s mostly an engineer who gets to go to the moon cause it’s routine now, and Danny who’s only here for the worst plot line in the show. Also, I demand more Wayne Cobb! Did they just decide to graft the “concerned spouse” vibe onto Danielle’s husband and call it a day
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tokin opposition posted:Her dad's gonna get dementia isn't he I mean that’s what they are setting up. Then there’s probably gonna be an “accident” with her kid setting up some drama.
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Aleida's introduction was great because it demonstrated how new characters could be added to the show each season, of different backgrounds, driven by the impact that previous seasons' characters had made. Unfortunately, they haven't done that this season yet, nor has Aleida had much to do. Hopefully we'll meet a young Helios engineer who has to learn some lessons the hard way, or someone on Ellen's campaign who makes it through her tragic downfall emboldened. Instead so far we've gotten many minutes of man-pain with the World's Oldest Astronaut. One upside is that the chances of Ed Baldwin dying this season are increasing.
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Sivart13 posted:agreed, doesn't seem as likely to be malicious as foolhardy or overconfident  That said, slapping some engines on an existing habitat is probably a good way to go here. It's already beta-tested so just make sure the engines don't blow up. tokin opposition posted:Everyone's equal... But the entire company comes and pays attention to smelon brusk the moment he asks for it. He's also the one that gets to go to the middle of nowhere and offer millions of dollars. Nobody has job titles, but I doubt the guy at the water cooler could interrupt his not-bosses day in the middle of the day to discuss switching to a new brand of toner in the printer. MarcusSA posted:The Aleida story line is falling pretty flat for me tbh.
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mobby_6kl posted:That said, slapping some engines on an existing habitat is probably a good way to go here. It's already beta-tested so just make sure the engines don't blow up. I’m assuming the station was built pretty much in place, and not designed for long-term translational acceleration. It’s in Earth orbit which I would guess offers some protection against Space Stuff that won’t be there during interplanetary flight. But I don’t really know what I’m talking about.
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It's probably fine? It would need to be sturdy enough to handle the rotation so it's not that delicate. It would mostly depend on the g forces from the engines. And there's no reason to do high g acceleration, a plasma or nuclear engine that can do lower thrust for a longer time is better for traveling long distance. The fun thing is that if it's rotating while accelerating your direction of gravity is going to be angled instead of directly into the floor. You'd probably want to leave the interior set up for rotational gravity so everything would be pretty funky under acceleration. Rotation also lets you gradually slow down the spin as you go and have a less abrupt transition into 0.38 g. Even more helpful on the way home.
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