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Just curious, if you have a 5600X, what kinds of temperatures do you normally experience? I upgraded from a 3600 to a 5600X this week and immediately noticed my temps are at least 10 degrees higher across the board even with a 240mm AIO (yes, I know Zen 3 runs pretty warm overall but I want to see what the range is)
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change my name posted:Just curious, if you have a 5600X, what kinds of temps do you normally experience? I upgraded from a 3600 to a 5600X this week and immediately noticed my temps are at least 10 degrees higher across the board even with a 240mm AIO (yes, I know Zen 3 runs pretty warm overall but I want to see what the range is) 5600X with fully stock cpu settings (~75W max socket power) cooled by a dark rock pro 4 in a P400A case with noctua fans, my CPU is maxing out at 56C during a prime95 "Small FFTs" test, and my fans were only spinning at half speed (so my pc couldn't be heard over the ambient noise) If I do the same test with 100W max socket power, the temps settle at around 66C with a little bit of audible fan noise. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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Jun 19, 2022 02:06
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Sanctum posted:e: Watched a video of the stock 1700 cooler and that little thing is noisy. Alright screw it hope I get this backplate and everything on right Just to allay your fears by confirming what you've been told, this is absolutely the standard now. It's engineered to be so.
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Jun 19, 2022 02:51
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If it weren't for how fuckoff huge my GPU is then my be quiet! Dark Rock SLim would easily be the biggest thing in my case. The thing is massive, and I know it is more compact than other coolers.
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Sanctum posted:So I went with this exact build but uhm what is this thing I bought? It's HUGE Tell us how it performs, if you don't mind. I've been recommending this cooler to others because on paper it seems like the best value cooler on the market. But I haven't seen much hands on impressions, outside some youtube/reddit comments and my own own positive experience with Thermalright. Also since you're new to this, double check that it has the 1700 bracket. I've seen reports of it not actually being included (despite what it says in the listing).
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i think GPUs have left people with an unreasonable expectation of how much a motherboard can hold - the problem there isn't the motherboard or connection, it's that GPUs have gone like 4x or more in size and the PCIE connection/screw were absolutely never intended for that amount of weight. if you have four or more screws to contrast your mobo can carry a ton, so long as it's anchored correctly. i'd recommend maybe either taking it off or using foam if you need to ship it, but otherwise you will be 100% fine.
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anyone in the uk looking for a prebuild imo this is very very good https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/intel-11th-rtx-3060-gaming-system-no-storage-or-os-from-ps65280-rtx3070-ps92280-at-palicomp-3951325 no storage, so in the event you don't have an SSD or whatever add a little extra, and a winders key from SA mart, and the PSU in the 3060 deal is kind of anemic which you might want to upgrade - but you could kit out a 3060/11400 system for 7-800 quid, less if you have the parts on hand. just the GPU was selling for around 650 not that long ago, lol. palicomp are not immensely well thought of - very barebones and their service package/aftercare is known to be kind of poo poo. but you can't argue with the price, and all the components are off the shelf so it's not a dell esque proprietary nightmare.
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I'm getting two red POST lights for BOOT and for DRAM. Edit Reseated RAM Only the VGA red light is on now. I don't have a gpu but my monitor is connected to the motherboard, shouldn't the CPU be able to act as a gpu? Sanctum fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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Jun 19, 2022 22:03
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Sanctum posted:I'm getting two red POST lights for BOOT and for DRAM. If you bought the i7-12700F then no, it does not include a GPU on the processor. The -F means no internal GPU.
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Jun 19, 2022 22:24
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Sanctum posted:I'm getting two red POST lights for BOOT and for DRAM. You bought a cpu without an igpu. Congrats 
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Sanctum posted:I'm getting two red POST lights for BOOT and for DRAM. Why have you built it without a GPU? Why are you saying you don't have a GPU when in your last few posts you said you bought a 3080, yet also have a 1070ti that still worked great?
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Jun 19, 2022 22:38
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Sanctum posted:I don't have a gpu but my monitor is connected to the motherboard, shouldn't the CPU be able to act as a gpu? 
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Butterfly Valley posted:Why have you built it without a GPU? Why are you saying you don't have a GPU when in your last few posts you said you bought a 3080, yet also have a 1070ti that still worked great?
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I seem to remember seeing in this thread some reference to the idea that the intel LAN chipset was better than the alternative. How heavily should I weigh that in my decision between a MSI z690 pro, which has the intel lan chipset, and an Asus TUF gaming H670, which perhaps doesn’t? I know there are other differences between the Z and the H chipset but I don’t really plan on overclocking. The Z is $10 cheaper at micro center and may have this better LAN setup, but the listed LAN speeds are the same. Saving the $10 for the nominally better z690 chipset kinda seems like a no brainer, since these are both decent mobos. I’ve tried reading up on which brand is generally better or which bios or software is better and you can find very strong opinions on either side.
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I suppose it's a good thing that I've started my rebuild because my mobo's DRAM light has started flashing when I boot up certain memory intensive games. I'll probably have to buy some new ram sticks sooner than expected because the light still turns on after I re-seated the sticks. I also switched to a micro atx mobo so I have more room for cables and a larger PSU when that purchase comes up. I'll yank out the DVD drive too just to maximize cable space.
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Sanctum posted:The GPU arrives tomorrow. Wish I'd gone for a processor with an internal GPU, it's been very useful anytime I have GPU/driver issues I need to troubleshoot. I will never build without an IGPU again. Last time I did was 2600K, on a P67 motherboard so I could not use IGPU. It never bit me in the rear end because I always had a backup card on hand, but it's just too useful of a feature to give up. My Haswell's IGPU helped big time when I needed more video outs than a card I had in it would provide for a while; set some stuff in the BIOS and suddenly GPU and IGPU play nice together, easy. I don't see a downside to an IGPU, personally.
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5 pack of Arctic P12 PWM PST 120mm PC Case Fans on sale on amazon for £23, which is not bad at all https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07HC782D5?m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&th=1 i think these are the ones which reviewed super well
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CoolCab posted:5 pack of Arctic P12 PWM PST 120mm PC Case Fans on sale on amazon for £23, which is not bad at all I have some of these, they are really good (especially for the price)
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Hey, question for folks regarding cpu bottlenecks and whatnot. My brother has a i5-2500K that is using a gtx 1080 owned by me as his rx 480 died - he wants to get his own gpu for this older cpu system that wouldn't be too much of an overbuy for the cpu. What gpus would he be looking at right now.
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Spacedad posted:- he wants to get his own gpu for this older cpu system that wouldn't be too much of an overbuy for the cpu. What gpus would he be looking at right now. That's a decade old CPU, literally every modern GPU will be bottlenecked by it. Better to think about a total overhaul at this point rather than letting a 10 year old part dictate what GPU he gets.
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Butterfly Valley posted:That's a decade old CPU, literally every modern GPU will be bottlenecked by it. Better to think about a total overhaul at this point rather than letting a 10 year old part dictate what GPU he gets. I agree totally - I am trying to talk him into upgrading to a new system later this year. For now I want my gtx 1080 that he's currently using back so I can throw it in my older system as a backup in case my main workstation build fails. (So I can keep doing animation freelance work uninterrupted.) I'm currently looking at getting him to pick up a 6600xt or 6650xt. Yes it will bottleneck like heck. But that seems to be the good current option for when he upgrades later on. Anyway - I just talked to him now in the middle of typing this post and it looks like he will in fact be getting a new-system upgrade later this year around later summer or fall-ish. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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Hello puter goons! I built my partner a PC recently, and it's been having an issue where it spontaneously shuts off every once in a while, maybe once every few days or so. Seems to happen more often when playing particular games. I'm trying to diagnose the issue but I'm not much of a Windows user these days and I'm not really sure where to look. These are the specs:
Would there be any logs or anything that I could look at to get more info on why it's shutting down?
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dizzywhip posted:Hello puter goons! I built my partner a PC recently, and it's been having an issue where it spontaneously shuts off every once in a while, maybe once every few days or so. Seems to happen more often when playing particular games. Random shutdowns (no blue screens or other error reports) with no other signs of instability are almost always a power-related issue. You can try double-checking that all of your power cables are plugged in fully (make sure the +2s on your 6+2 pin connectors are properly in there), but my bet would be on transient loads. By that, I mean power spikes. 30-series graphics cards can cause large power spikes that last just a millisecond or so well in excess of their rated sustained power draw. Not all power supplies cope well with this, and these power spikes may be tripping your unit's overpower/overcurrent protection. If the PSU is still within its return period, I'd return it and get something like a SuperNOVA G6 instead. If there were any system-level errors happening, they'd probably be in the Event Viewer. PSU troubles won't show up in any system logs though.
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Spacedad posted:I'm currently looking at getting him to pick up a 6600xt or 6650xt. Yes it will bottleneck like heck. But that seems to be the good current option for when he upgrades later on.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Random shutdowns (no blue screens or other error reports) with no other signs of instability are almost always a power-related issue. You can try double-checking that all of your power cables are plugged in fully (make sure the +2s on your 6+2 pin connectors are properly in there), but my bet would be on transient loads. By that, I mean power spikes. 30-series graphics cards can cause large power spikes that last just a millisecond or so well in excess of their rated sustained power draw. Not all power supplies cope well with this, and these power spikes may be tripping your unit's overpower/overcurrent protection. If the PSU is still within its return period, I'd return it and get something like a SuperNOVA G6 instead. That makes sense and is very helpful, thank you! I'll try picking up a beefier power supply.
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So I'm reconsidering building a pc based upon the pc parts picker entry level gaming build. However, I've opted for a better case, psu, and ssd. Also I'm planning on temporarily using my old nvidia 750ti as a gpu. Any noticeable issues with this set up? PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($106.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: *Gigabyte B660M DS3H DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon) Memory: *Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($49.89 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Adorama) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon) Total: $481.84 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-20 17:37 EDT-0400
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dizzywhip posted:That makes sense and is very helpful, thank you! I'll try picking up a beefier power supply. FWIW, I’ve been running a 5600X and 3070 FE on a 550-watt Corsair PSU just fine
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dizzywhip posted:That makes sense and is very helpful, thank you! I'll try picking up a beefier power supply. It's not about the maximum wattage it's rated for. It's about the general quality of the PSU. Don't get another NZXT one or it might just start happening again, even at 850W. EVGA G6 series, Corsair RM series, CoolerMaster Gold V2 series, Thermaltake GF1, Seasonic Focus Plus, to name a few of the ones that have gotten good reviews. Corsair RM series is probably the most popular one. The RM750 would do you fine. I linked the EVGA G6 because it's cheaper and still high quality with a 10-year warranty (uses a Seasonic platform). You shouldn't need more than 750W in any case.
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Looks like a decent 2TB gen 3 nvme drive for $150, R/W 3500/3000MB/s https://www.amazon.com/ADATA-SX8100-Gen3x4-3000MB-ASX8100NP-2TT-C/dp/B07ZGJ5TSC?th=1
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So how is the market atm? Is it still a dumpster fire or has anything improved?
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waaaaaaaaaaaay better. supply is somewhere between normal and abundant, depending on how responsive the retailer has been adjusting pricing to demand. with crypto unprofitable again the secondhand market is very good and reports of 600 dollar 3080s you can get off former miners are cropping up in numerous places.
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CoolCab posted:waaaaaaaaaaaay better. supply is somewhere between normal and abundant, depending on how responsive the retailer has been adjusting pricing to demand. with crypto unprofitable again the secondhand market is very good and reports of 600 dollar 3080s you can get off former miners are cropping up in numerous places. My god. Like Mana from heaven.
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Crypto crashing is making it much, much easier to get a hold of a new GPU now https://twitter.com/hitstreak/status/1538276653876424704 Prices should only continue to lower as we approach the 40 series launch
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All of those GPUs, even at the sales prices are still at least $100 over MSRP.
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Gigabyte Z690 Gaming X motherboard with 32GB of DDR5-5200 for $300: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4502626 Really good deal for a basic LGA1700/DDR5 setup. I did some digging and found that the RAM here uses Micron dies, which aren't as overclockable as SK Hynix (the most overclockable DDR5 manufacturer currently). But people have still taken them to ~5400 CL38, which is a small boost over this set's stock XMP profile. You'd probably get the equivalent of midrange DDR4 performance in most games, and better in games that like high-bandwidth memory. Though, be warned that memory overclocking is a whole thing. If you want to avoid manual overclocking with DDR5, then you have to pay out the nose for a set with a fast XMP profile.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:It's not about the maximum wattage it's rated for. It's about the general quality of the PSU. Don't get another NZXT one or it might just start happening again, even at 850W. EVGA G6 series, Corsair RM series, CoolerMaster Gold V2 series, Thermaltake GF1, Seasonic Focus Plus, to name a few of the ones that have gotten good reviews. Corsair RM series is probably the most popular one. The RM750 would do you fine. I linked the EVGA G6 because it's cheaper and still high quality with a 10-year warranty (uses a Seasonic platform). You shouldn't need more than 750W in any case. I went ahead and picked up the Supernova G6 you recommended. I'll report back on how it goes in a week or two 
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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Tomatillos/saved/#view=7jcmCJ If anyone could give me a quick sanity check on this, I'd be grateful. The GPU listed is on deep discount at a reliable retailer where I live (Taiwan) so the total build will end up being around 900 bucks cheaper than pc parts picker says it should be.
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FART BOSS posted:https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Tomatillos/saved/#view=7jcmCJ Nothing wrong with that.
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gonna be a beast. i might suggest going a little higher end on the memory simply because you've bought most of the kit to play around with overclocking and as such that might appeal to you and to pair with the general mid to high end machine, but honestly what you picked is totally fine.
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