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why does butcher hate homelander... did i miss something?
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Jun 20, 2022 12:22
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2nd level spells posted:No she's literally backed down once in a fight. With Maeve ehn Maven was caught )by ashleig) fuckin a cople dudes and Maee specifically asks jer to be human just once: Ha! Have another, champ.
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Jun 20, 2022 12:23
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Dongicus posted:why does butcher hate homelander... did i miss something? lol is this a shitpost? homelander raped and kidnapped his wife for like 8 years?
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Jun 20, 2022 13:02
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crepeface posted:lol is this a shitpost? homelander raped and kidnapped his wife for like 8 years? Homelander had nothing to do with the kidnapping. It was all Vaught and HL was clueless about it. I dont know about the rape thing. It always looked to me like she just cheated on butcher and instantly regretted her decision and especially since she got pregnant. Id have to watch season 1 again. Butchers hatred stems from the fact he legit tought HL had done something to her
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Jun 20, 2022 13:09
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Dalael posted:Homelander had nothing to do with the kidnapping. It was all Vaught and HL was clueless about it. In s2 she flat out says that Homelander raped her and nothing in the show ever contradicts that. She was raped.
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Jun 20, 2022 13:15
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Dalael posted:Butchers hatred stems from the fact he legit tought HL had done something against him Ftfy. I think even Becca understood this.
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Jun 20, 2022 13:17
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hmmm, I might be misremembering who was responsible for setting Becca up in the house. butcher definitely blames HL tho. and I don't remember anything from the flashback that would lead me to believe Becca and HL had an affair.
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Jun 20, 2022 13:18
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Dalael posted:I dont know about the rape thing. It always looked to me like she just cheated on butcher and instantly regretted her decision and especially since she got pregnant. Id have to watch season 1 again. We see her go into Homelander's office, and then leave shortly after disheveled and traumatised. It's unambiguously rape. Butcher finds CCTV footage of Becca sat forlornly on a park bench for hours, and then is never seen again. He concludes that either she killed herself or Vaught/Homelander killed her. The disctinction doesn't really matter to him. Becca goes to Vaught when she discovers she's pregnant. Partly because she's terrified of carrying a Supe kid, but also because she knows if Butcher finds out about her rape he'll go right after Homelander and get himself killed. Vaught's previous Dr (the dude from The Wire) helps her through the pregnancy and then stashes her and Ryan in the fake town, away from Homelander. He finds out off-screen in S1, having gone back to threaten Dr The Wire.
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Jun 20, 2022 13:29
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Dongicus posted:why does butcher hate homelander... did i miss something? lmao that this obvious joke post flew over everyone's head with the speed of a harrier jet
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Jun 20, 2022 13:32
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i still don't get it :(
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Jun 20, 2022 13:43
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:In s2 she flat out says that Homelander raped her and nothing in the show ever contradicts that. She was definitely raped, which is backed up both by Becca's dialogue to Homelander about how he doesn't get a say in how to raise Ryan after "what he did" to her, as well as the security camera footage of her going to the private business meeting with Homelander, then coming out hours later looking terrified and disheveled, putting on her shoes and hurrying away. She wasn't kidnapped by anyone, though. Butcher thinks she was raped by HL and then either killed directly by HL or by Vought to cover up the rape. When he finds out that she's alive and in a compound, he thinks she's been kidnapped and goes to rescue her. Becca explains that she went to Vought for help, they found out she was pregnant with HL's baby from the rape, and promised to help her medically. Vought wanted to keep Ryan and Becca wanted to 1) survive the pregnancy/birth, something Vought were really the only ones remotely equipped to help with, 2) keep HL away from Ryan, and 3) still be in Ryan's life both because he is her child and because she didn't want him raised by a bunch of Vought employees and end up all hosed up like HL. Vought also wanted Ryan to not end up an unstable mess like HL, so they allowed Becca to stay with Ryan, raise him, and have a lot of say in how Ryan's life would go. Vought pitched the compound angle to her as it being the only way to keep Ryan safe from HL. Once she's in the Vought-made compound, she stays there at least in part under duress because she knows Vought will never let her take Ryan, but she's also there because she's terrified of Homelander. She only even agrees to leave with Butcher because HL shows up in the compound and she comes to understand that Vought can't actually keep her or Ryan safe from him in the long term. R. Guyovich posted:lmao that this obvious joke post flew over everyone's head with the speed of a harrier jet It was, but then people started talking about how they don't think Becca was raped, so, welp. cake bunny fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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Jun 20, 2022 13:51
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I'm sorry for saying staggered releases were good because they generated discussion earlier because this the most dumbass thread I've ever read
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Jun 20, 2022 14:00
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Durzel posted:I feel like a bad TV watcher for asking this, but what is it about Soldier Boy that means that everyone takes it as read that he can (and will, why?) destroy Homelander? The editing is a bit weird there because they make a big deal of Kimiko realizing she lost her powers while away from Butcher and crew but they observed Soldier Boy shred her power temporarily. They might infer it's permanent or not care since the plan is to kill him.
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Jun 20, 2022 14:01
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No Dignity posted:I'm sorry for saying staggered releases were good because they generated discussion earlier because this the most dumbass thread I've ever read It's not any more stupid than any other thread on TVIV, or really another other discussion of this show (and probably any other show) on the internet. Note that is not me saying this thread isn't full of dumb as gently caress takes. People being dumb as gently caress in their takes about not at all complex poo poo in tv shows is both part of the entertainment factor of these discussions and part of them being kinda loving annoying.
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Jun 20, 2022 14:08
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No Dignity posted:I'm sorry for saying staggered releases were good because they generated discussion earlier because this the most dumbass thread I've ever read its so bad dude.
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Jun 20, 2022 14:08
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The Boys Season 3: I feel like a bad TV watcher for asking this, but...
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Jun 20, 2022 14:22
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I may be a more astute tv watcher than most but the endgame they're building towards feels a bit too obvious to me. Like clearly they're setting Homelander up for a redemption arc giving him all these real-world situations where he feels inadequate and showing his vulnerable side by dating Starlight. Soldier Boy is probably gonna do something like kill Maeve or Starlight or Maeve and Starlight and then Hughie is gonna go to Homelander and be like "we've gotta do this for Starlight" and then they fight and it looks like they're gonna lose and then Butcher shows up last minute saying something cool and then they win. Like, be a little less obvious writers, come on
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Jun 20, 2022 14:41
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No Dignity posted:I'm sorry for saying staggered releases were good because they generated discussion earlier because this the most dumbass thread I've ever read check out the star wars thread
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Jun 20, 2022 14:42
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:In s2 she flat out says that Homelander raped her and nothing in the show ever contradicts that. Oh I must have missed that.
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Jun 20, 2022 14:51
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babypolis posted:check out the star wars thread
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Jun 20, 2022 15:51
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I may be a more astute tv watcher than most but the endgame they're building towards feels a bit too obvious to me. Like clearly they're setting Homelander up for a redemption arc giving him all these real-world situations where he feels inadequate and showing his vulnerable side by dating Starlight. 
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Jun 20, 2022 15:53
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lol this show hides it well but its essentially a rip off of The Avengers
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Jun 20, 2022 15:57
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Durzel posted:I feel like a bad TV watcher for asking this, but what is it about Soldier Boy that means that everyone takes it as read that he can (and will, why?) destroy Homelander? They originally went there for the weapon that killed Soldier Boy, that was a bust. Butcher didn't really have a plan after that aside from get Kimiko back to the states since she wasn't healing and leave Soldier Boy behind as the Russians' problem. The closest he had to a plan after that was probably to get juiced up on temp V and try to solo Homelander himself. But when Soldier Boy turns up in the states, he figured what the hell, let's see if we can put this piece in play. e: I was just hopping through the latest episode and caught something I'd missed before, I was wrong about MM's dad: when he's picking up his daughter and sees the news, it flashes back to his dad. Looks like someone really did tear his body apart, it wasn't a heart attack, drat. As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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Jun 20, 2022 16:11
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It’s also a bit messed up that MM’s daughter is watching the Homelander stuff knowing what happened to MM’s family, and what he does for a living. Especially since it gives him legit panic attacks.
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Jun 20, 2022 16:28
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I may be a more astute tv watcher than most but the endgame they're building towards feels a bit too obvious to me. Like clearly they're setting Homelander up for a redemption arc giving him all these real-world situations where he feels inadequate and showing his vulnerable side by dating Starlight. This is indistinguishable from the other posts in this thread so honestly A+ satire
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Jun 20, 2022 16:28
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I'll just say it people on Reddit not getting that Homelander is the bad guy is total cap. People just thinking he's rear end in a top hat superman and not realizing he's a Trump analogue is ... slightly more believable?
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Jun 20, 2022 16:35
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I skipped... a bunch of pages so apologies if this was asked and answered but was Kimiko's halting speech before the dance number part of her dream?
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Jun 20, 2022 16:38
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The caption is wrong, they thought blue falcon was a good guy not Homelander. People are dumb but not that dumb
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Jun 20, 2022 16:38
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Cpt_Obvious posted:The caption is wrong, they thought blue falcon was a good guy not Homelander. I admire your naivete. There are totally folks out there thinking Homelander is a goodguy. Hell, some of them dressed as Homelander with trump masks at rallies.
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Jun 20, 2022 16:42
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zoux posted:I skipped... a bunch of pages so apologies if this was asked and answered but was Kimiko's halting speech before the dance number part of her dream? Yes
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Jun 20, 2022 16:43
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bobjr posted:It’s also a bit messed up that MM’s daughter is watching the Homelander stuff knowing what happened to MM’s family, and what he does for a living. Especially since it gives him legit panic attacks. We have no idea what Janine knows about MM For all we know MM never told her the truth about what happened to MM's family to protect her and for all we know Janine thinks MM is still working at juvenile hall What I find really weird about that situation is that MM's ex-wife doesn't seem to have a problem with Travis showing all the Homelander poo poo to Janine. I figured she probably knows the truth and wouldn't want Janine to get brainwashed into thinking Homelander was actually a good guy like idiot Travis does
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Jun 20, 2022 16:43
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zoux posted:I skipped... a bunch of pages so apologies if this was asked and answered but was Kimiko's halting speech before the dance number part of her dream? She says the word I, which is a big step up from totally mute.
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Jun 20, 2022 16:44
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Golden Bee posted:I don’t think Homelander’s a buffoon, exactly, or even close to Trump. (I get that he’s powerful and stupid and embracing white male anger but beyond that it’s thin.)
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Jun 20, 2022 16:46
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Golden Bee posted:She says the word I, which is a big step up from totally mute. I believe this was part of the fakeout leading to the dance number. IIRC, Frenchie does not mention her talking at all and just reacts to her kissing him. If she'd said anything, he would have been losing his poo poo about it.
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Jun 20, 2022 16:46
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Habibi posted:I applaud you for managing to repeatedly and wildly misunderstand Trump, fascism, and Homelander. A real achievement. lmao goddamn close this thread the day after episode drops. smoking biden was right about this show. binge dump is bad for lots of shows but this show in particular just invites idiots to trip over their own stupidity. They should dump the whole season and include an hour and half "the boys explained" video on top of that to hold people's hands through poo poo that they literally couldn't make any more apparent without outright stating it to the audience in block letters plastered on screen, read aloud slowly.
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Jun 20, 2022 16:50
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Elephant Ambush posted:We have no idea what Janine knows about MM I thought the guy's name was Todd or Tom or something like that, and yeah I'd like to think MM hold Monique what happened, but he very much tries to compartmentalize his life so it was likely a sanitized version like his dad's death story in season 2. It's probably a combination of that and the step dad being too busy salivating over Homelander's knob to know what's appropriate for Janine (he thought the only problem was the language Homelander used rather than the content, let alone any details MM may have told them about what Homelander's really like).
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Jun 20, 2022 16:50
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Elephant Ambush posted:We have no idea what Janine knows about MM This struck me as weird too, but the supes are basically worshipped. They have theme parks, movies, restaurants, etc. It would be really hard to tell your kid that no, Mickey Mouse is actually evil and we can't watch anything from Disney, go to Disneyworld, etc. It would alienate Janine from all her peers. Is it more or less harmful to be honest with a 9 year old (or whatever) or let them believe until they are older? PostNouveau posted:I believe this was part of the fakeout leading to the dance number. IIRC, Frenchie does not mention her talking at all and just reacts to her kissing him. If she'd said anything, he would have been losing his poo poo about it. Didn't he immediately call for the doctor when she spoke?
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Jun 20, 2022 16:54
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Habibi posted:I applaud you for managing to repeatedly and wildly misunderstand Trump, fascism, and Homelander. A real achievement. Homelander is a stand-in for America, and he's fascist adjacent because so is America. All his Trump-like qualities are also just the personification of America: Brash, narcissistic, menacing, and childish.
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Jun 20, 2022 16:57
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I thought now MM is clear he works in an official Anti-Supe corruption group, he might hide the gorier details though.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Didn't he immediately call for the doctor when she spoke? Part of the fantasy, it snaps back to them sitting on the bed together with the earbuds in and she kisses him. As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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