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readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

Cowcaster posted:

why are conservatives so absolutely convinced that medical professionals will force people to become a different gender?

Im not sure they are. I’m pretty convinced at this point that most conservative beliefs are just post-hoc rationalizations to justify things they want to do anyways and that they know this on some level. In this case they want to block trans people from transitioning by criminalizing the HRT and puberty blockers while using the law to intimidate doctors.

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Part of that Sartre quote is that they take pleasure in the knowledge that anyone they disagree with will try in earnest to refute whatever insane bullshit they spout, and that part of the pleasure for them is being beyond reason and beyond language while their hated enemies voluntarily cleave to those things and believe in them. It’s partially about reveling in the perceived weakness of their enemies, like the dumb kid in class who tries to rules-lawyer the teacher on a technicality.

They don’t believe any of it, and the point is to force a performance from the rest of us that shows we believe in things and are therefore weaker and deserving of extermination. Does that What Is A Woman guy have a definition of what a woman is? He does not.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



You're all really giving them too much credit, 99% of conservative thought can be explained with them believing porn is real life. Incels think straight porn portrays a realistic depiction of straight sex and relationships, great replacement stuff relies on thinking the world functions on cuckold porn logic, and ishida thinks force fem is real life. This stuff may have originated as a a justification but is now perpetuated by how conservatives consume pornography.

JamesBont
Oct 1, 2021

Cowcaster posted:

why are conservatives so absolutely convinced that medical professionals will force people to become a different gender? it's like 10 years ago when gay marriage was the hot button issue and they knew in their hearts the endgame was to force everyone to get gay married

It's just how they operate through fear-mongering. Remember back years ago when the ACA was being created? The GOP turned chicken little claiming that "Death panels are going to pull the plug on Grandma!"

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

It’s funny because I believe one of the Transformers comic series was pretty queer, up to and including a trans character.

But I get the feeling they weren’t twerking and emphasizing their robogenitals.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

It helps to remember that conservatives took to 4chan, a place where sincerity is actively discouraged and bad-faith arguing is expected, like flies to poo poo.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

:kstare:Sinfest Sunday!:kstare:


Even in his whack dystopia with flying drones threatening you into getting vaccines, mind control hats, people getting GULAGed in digital tron jails left and right for posting on the internet, and the actual devil in charge of everything, he still depicts gender transition as a completely voluntary process where patients are repeatedly assured whenever they ask that they are free to stop at any time. And this is supposed to be scary because... transitioning is allowed?? Because doctors aren't prescribing conversion therapy to everyone who is LGB and/or T ???

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
Calling trans kids brave and beautiful is actually pressuring them into transitioning, because transitioning has no social downsides and is not difficult at all

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I wonder how much of this is rooted in the old reactionary idea that healthcare workers being nice and telling kids that they're brave encourages malingering and all healthcare (for proles and women especially) should be about acting like an emotionally distant father while administering electric shocks or foul tasting medicine.

Massive amounts of transphobia too of course, but that itself gets tied up with the idea that being nice and affirming people makes them weak and nice/feminine/weak/bad are all the same thing.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

I think it's one of those "You have to already be a shithead to get the punchline" comics. Like, i think the punchline is supposed to be "oh my god isn't it terrifying that they would even consider transitioning this girl" combined with his ongoing "Where's my cookie for being such a good ally" jealousy.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Xander77 posted:

How and how?

I honestly think that Rall is...right here:ohdear: We shouldn't do small changes and then act like it matters. It would be like if Lincoln made it legally required for slave owners to be a bit nicer to their slaves and then act as if he fixed slavery.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Or you know doing the Russia thing of freeing their slaves but forcing those slaves to pay back their value as property to former owners, and then the government after the debt was transferred.

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Rebecca Hendin on Boris Johnson and rail strikes — Labour has accused the government of encouraging the walkouts to go ahead in order to stoke division"

Telegraph:

RMT demands minimum 7pc pay rise ahead of rail strikes

Times:


Evening Standard:

French election: Emmanuel Macron’s failure to win poll majority a ‘democratic shock’, say his own ministers

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Xander77 posted:

How and how?

One of the main strategies of reactionary rhetoric used to prevent policy change is to claim that a given policy is futile or meaningless. I have a big effortpost about these strategies here, which I conveniently wrote with NRA examples. Generally, regulated industry (and their trade associations especially) do not like granting concessionary regulation when it can set precedent. The NRA isn't asking for or inviting the proposed regulations from the senate- they're fighting it tooth and nail, which is a pretty good sign

Rall is also obfuscating how gun control actually happens; that this isn't "Politicians", it's specific politicians, with specific affiliations (and overwhelmingly, it's Republicans) blocking broader reform. The punchline is, of course, to depress Democratic turnout, because that's the goal. He's doing his usual thing, which is trying to get people to disengage from the political process, based on deliberately cultivated ignorance.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Seems like the Dems are doing more than enough on their own to depress turnout, don't see why they need Ted Rall's help.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Terrible Opinions posted:

Or you know doing the Russia thing of freeing their slaves but forcing those slaves to pay back their value as property to former owners, and then the government after the debt was transferred.
The French Haiti thing.

Discendo Vox posted:

Rall is also obfuscating how gun control actually happens; that this isn't "Politicians", it's specific politicians, with specific affiliations (and overwhelmingly, it's Republicans) blocking broader reform. The punchline is, of course, to depress Democratic turnout, because that's the goal. He's doing his usual thing, which is trying to get people to disengage from the political process, based on deliberately cultivated ignorance.
I'm the last person in this thread to hand it to Rall, but I don't read that comic that way at all.

kartikeya
Mar 17, 2009


Randalor posted:

Transformers only have 1 sex. There is no other sex for them to transition to. They have multiple gender identities, but only one sex. Traits we normally use to indicate someone is female have shown up on both genders of transformers. Yes, even breasts.

"Bad guys that want to overthrow society and impose a tyrannical rule will quickly begin crying about how unfair the system that they tried to overthrow is the moment they're apprehended and disarmed. AGC."

I honestly have no idea what he's actually trying to say here. The right-wing nutters are generally the "MAH FREEDUMBS" in regards to firearms, but he normally portrays the left as being thr ones that constantly cry foul, so... :kstare:

I'm convinced he lost his own joke right in the middle of drawing this. The first two panels are clearly "Magatron is evil and bad according to the evil and bad people!" He's called Magatron, he's got the stars and stripes painted on him, and he is quite literally a gun ("you'll never confiscate me!" is the closest thing to an actual joke he's managed to make in this weekly dump), while the Autobots are the real bad guys because they transition instead of transform, and want to be mean to the leader of a group that's still called the Decepticons for some reason. The second half suddenly put "Magatron" in the position of the weak and whiny liberals, a "joke" he constantly uses to say "look at this ridiculous whining used to smear true patriotic terfs!", which is always followed by all the other weak and whiny liberals being unfairly angry at the person who caused it. Always. Always, always.

Shorter, Ishida's brainworms ran in opposite directions where the unfairly maligned caricature the evil media uses to demonize the poor poor conservatives suddenly becomes the character the weak and whiny liberals are supposed to feel sympathy for and outrage on behalf of, probably because he couldn't be bothered to think about his default joke for .0000001 seconds.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

:australia:

Rowe:

The energy minister Chris Bowen with the previous government's energy minister (now shadow treasurer) Angus Taylor inside the fuse box.

Broelman:

Transgender swimmers restricted by FINA (Canberra Times, AAP)

Lethbridge:


Spooner:

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




gently caress off, Spooner, we got our own shitheads

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem

This comic is so lazy and lovely it almost looks like a parody. What the gently caress is that sign supposed to be, the guys not even looking at it as he makes the comment. Oh and the weird political cartoon generic brand noodle heads, walking along a sidewalk against a white void, and of course the One Joke™

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

This is like a parody of what people think a political cartoon is.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009




Is too late a thing? Hypothetically speaking if I were 40 and starting to think that always playing as girls in video games and RPGs is a sign of something...is it too late? And what, exactly, makes it too late?

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

rydiafan posted:

Is too late a thing? Hypothetically speaking if I were 40 and starting to think that always playing as girls in video games and RPGs is a sign of something...is it too late? And what, exactly, makes it too late?

I think whoever made the edit is talking specifically about puberty; it's never too late to transition, but puberty will have permanent effects if you don't go on blockers before some of those changes start happening

Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013
Nick Anderson


Robert Ariail


Matt Davies


Al Goodwyn


Bob Gorrell


Phil Hands


Joe Heller


Clay Jones


Mike Lester


Joel Pett


Michael Ramirez

"Let's raise this."

Tom Stiglich


Tony Branco

quote:

Feeling the Pain: Biden’s policies like inflation, gas prices, etc, inflict pain on America while he blames Putin.
Why is Biden hitting himself?

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!
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Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

rydiafan posted:

Is too late a thing? Hypothetically speaking if I were 40 and starting to think that always playing as girls in video games and RPGs is a sign of something...is it too late? And what, exactly, makes it too late?

It's never too late.

ZeeToo
Feb 20, 2008

I'm a kitty!

Randalor posted:

"Bad guys that want to overthrow society and impose a tyrannical rule will quickly begin crying about how unfair the system that they tried to overthrow is the moment they're apprehended and disarmed. AGC."

I honestly have no idea what he's actually trying to say here. The right-wing nutters are generally the "MAH FREEDUMBS" in regards to firearms, but he normally portrays the left as being thr ones that constantly cry foul, so... :kstare:

After a vast amount of thought, and realizing the complaint is about grabbing "Son of a gun", maybe it's just insanity about how Democrats will grab guns if given half a chance, but if those guns they grab are people, that's pretty much like sexual harassment?

God, this is genuinely the best attempt I can find at decoding this jape.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011





I'm pretty sure anyone who wants to defund the police also wants to disarm them.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
I suggest we have a Kellies category this year for "worst object labeled as inflation".


Nomination:
Worst "two things happened"


Nomination: Most incomprehensible

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
has this guy previously blamed Biden for the gas prices?

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Aside from the stupidity of the fact that people who want to defund the police do not want police to have guns, Mike Lester would absolutely never support anyone shooting a cop and so using the "Hmm but if cops are bad then that should mean you want people to own guns to protect themselves from cops" is also stupid.

Well, okay, maybe Lester would support it if it was a white guy shooting a black cop. Or if the cop was trying to stop a guy from beating his wife, since Mike Lester beats his wife and would sympathize with others who do.


"Later, in another part of the White House..."

Joe Biden wearing a shirt that says "I <3 Oil"

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Twelve by Pies posted:

Aside from the stupidity of the fact that people who want to defund the police do not want police to have guns, Mike Lester would absolutely never support anyone shooting a cop and so using the "Hmm but if cops are bad then that should mean you want people to own guns to protect themselves from cops" is also stupid.

Well, okay, maybe Lester would support it if it was a white guy shooting a black cop. Or if the cop was trying to stop a guy from beating his wife, since Mike Lester beats his wife and would sympathize with others who do.
No he's saying we need somebody to be armed to protect us from criminals, so it's either the cops or individuals.

Of course, right now it's both and people are getting shot all the time, but that doesn't mean there's a gun problem.

Post poste
Mar 29, 2010

rydiafan posted:

Is too late a thing? Hypothetically speaking if I were 40 and starting to think that always playing as girls in video games and RPGs is a sign of something...is it too late? And what, exactly, makes it too late?

I helped someone transition at 63.

The only too late is post death.

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Twelve by Pies posted:

"Later, in another part of the White House..."

Joe Biden wearing a shirt that says "I <3 Oil"

God is Powerup Comics good.

Raised By Birds posted:

Tony Branco


Why is Biden hitting himself?

Glad I'm not the only one who saw it that way :v:

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem

Kikas posted:

God is Powerup Comics good.

Glad I'm not the only one who saw it that way :v:

Wait, hes not hitting himself?

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012
I think he is supposed to be hitting the "American People" laying at the bottom of the panel.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!


Kellies Nomination: Worst Label
Or I suppose Worst Pop Culture Reference would be more apt, but I think Label is the closest category we have for that.

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
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rydiafan posted:

Is too late a thing? Hypothetically speaking if I were 40 and starting to think that always playing as girls in video games and RPGs is a sign of something...is it too late? And what, exactly, makes it too late?

There's no such thing as too late. The changes come slightly slower the older you start, but there's no point at which you can't do it. People have done it in their 90s. 40 is not especially old among people I've met.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No_Vti186Tk&t=121s

Schultz deserves better than your lovely version of his gag.

(For those who don't get it, this is a reference to a minor recurring Peanuts gag from the motherfucking 1950s where Charlie Brown would have issues writing with a fountain pen and inkwell.)


I just... The amount this is insulting to the reader is almost baffling. The visual metaphor works on it's own, why did you add those lines and oops now I'm bleeding from my ears brb aneurism.

Raised By Birds posted:

Michael Ramirez

"Let's raise this."

If you spend more money, you can buy things you need to avoid crashing, such as more track for this train. AGC.

rydiafan posted:

Is too late a thing? Hypothetically speaking if I were 40 and starting to think that always playing as girls in video games and RPGs is a sign of something...is it too late? And what, exactly, makes it too late?

I had a friend who transitioned well into her 40s and is definitely the happiest I've ever seen her in years. If you think it's worthwhile, it's an area to explore about yourself and come to a decision on.

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Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Alhazred posted:

I'm pretty sure anyone who wants to defund the police also wants to disarm them.

it’s even weirder because as far as i can tell lester’s saying “you need guns to shoot killer cops”

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