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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

the school board meeting is going on
https://twitter.com/cmpcamille/status/1539051583324962817?s=20&t=81hrQTY3pDojZsCByjW5hw
https://twitter.com/cmpcamille/status/1539054433220296705?s=20&t=81hrQTY3pDojZsCByjW5hw

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Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Grand Theft Autobot posted:

Alright, so we've all definitely moved on now and nothing is happening, right?

nah there's blood in the water and it'll be front-page news again when it comes out the Uvalde PD killed some kids

I mean, unless you're talking policywise, in which case yeah we've all definitely moved on now and nothing is happening

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

article with some of the new revelations
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/20/uvalde-police-shooting-response-records/

quote:

Here are some key findings from these records and materials:

No security footage from inside the school showed police officers attempting to open the doors to classrooms 111 and 112, which were connected by an adjoining door. Arredondo told the Tribune that he tried to open one door and another group of officers tried to open another, but that the door was reinforced and impenetrable. Those attempts were not caught in the footage reviewed by the Tribune. Some law enforcement officials are skeptical that the doors were ever locked.

Within the first minutes of the law enforcement response, an officer said the Halligan (a firefighting tool that is also sometimes spelled hooligan) was on site. It wasn’t brought into the school until an hour after the first officers entered the building. Authorities didn’t use it and instead waited for keys.

Officers had access to four ballistic shields inside the school during the standoff with the gunman, according to a law enforcement transcript. The first arrived 58 minutes before officers stormed the classrooms. The last arrived 30 minutes before.

Multiple Department of Public Safety officers — up to eight, at one point — entered the building at various times while the shooter was holed up. Many quickly left to pursue other duties, including evacuating children, after seeing the number of officers already there. At least one of the officers expressed confusion and frustration about why the officers weren’t breaching the classroom, but was told that no order to do so had been given.

At least some officers on the scene seemed to believe that Arredondo was in charge inside the school, and at times Arredondo seemed to be issuing orders such as directing officers to evacuate students from other classrooms. That contradicts Arredondo’s assertion that he did not believe he was running the law enforcement response. Arredondo’s lawyer, George E. Hyde, did not respond to requests for comment Monday.

interesting point about the cop who's wife was a teacher.

quote:

Another officer who entered the hallway was Ruben Ruiz of the Uvalde city police. His wife, teacher Eva Mireles, had called him on his cellphone and told him she was bleeding heavily.

“She says she is shot,” he told the officers on the scene.

The video from inside the hallway doesn’t capture what Ruiz did inside the school. But a DPS official told the Tribune that Ruiz was soon escorted away by other officers on the scene.

By 12:01 p.m., the DPS special agent had returned to the hallway and offered his urgent assessment: The situation required officers to go into the classrooms.

jesus christ

quote:

The painful wait continued. SWAT officers from the city police arrived on the scene at around 12:10 p.m., a little more than a half-hour after the shooter first entered the school. One minute later, Arredondo asked for a master key that would allow him to unlock classroom doors, according to the transcripts. It took about six minutes for a set of keys to arrive, and the chief began testing them on a different classroom door. Soon after, more gunshots could be heard from inside the classrooms full of students.

Arredondo tried to speak with the shooter but didn’t get a response. Uvalde’s mayor, Don McLaughlin, told The Washington Post that a would-be negotiator, working from a nearby funeral home to which the mayor had rushed, also tried to reach the shooter, to no avail.

At 12:38 p.m., Arredondo tried to talk to the shooter. Hearing no reply, he indicated that the SWAT team could breach the classrooms if it was ready.

By then, a long-awaited working key had been found. Officers inserted it into the door of room 111, and a tactical unit from the Border Patrol stormed in. All that’s audible from the video is a flurry of gunshots. The team then exited the room and indicated that the gunman was dead — 77 minutes after the carnage started.

Arredondo is being scapegoated in this account, but it still makes all the cops look horrible. Nothing about the arrests happening outside in this story either.

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Google Butt posted:



the definitely clapped a kid

Officer is singular so yeah definitely

Retromancer
Aug 21, 2007

Every time I see Goatse, I think of Maureen. That's the last thing I saw. Before I blacked out. The sight of that man's anus.

Uvalde is over and it's been like a month without someone doing a newsworthy (10+dead) mass shooting please close this thread.

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Joe Biden solved mass shootings by making everyone poor and giving us that rise and grind attitude that makes you not want to die

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Texas state police head is burning the local cops
https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1539257916234031104?s=20&t=ZZb6PVSALrNTD-V514qBTQ

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Ruben Ruiz murdered his wife himself under cover of the school shooting

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Mameluke posted:

Ruben Ruiz murdered his wife himself under cover of the school shooting

I'm in favor of just creating progressively outlandish stories to rile people up, if they won't release the tapes.

I'm sure the Qanon people will continue to ignore actual dead kids though.

Filthy Hans posted:

nah there's blood in the water and it'll be front-page news again when it comes out the Uvalde PD killed some kids

I mean, unless you're talking policywise, in which case yeah we've all definitely moved on now and nothing is happening

That's why we won't let it get out :nsa:

New York Times: we won't report on this to promote healing as nation

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




dont elementary classrooms have a bunch of windows they could have gone through if they were too scared to even check the door?

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
there actually wasn’t a shooter at all and the cops murdered all the kids and the teachers for fun

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires

Stereotype posted:

there actually wasn’t a shooter at all and the cops murdered all the kids and the teachers for fun

Another cop shot himself in the leg while doing a classroom presentation and things just got out of hand from there

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Dog Case posted:

Another cop shot himself in the leg while doing a classroom presentation and things just got out of hand from there

All because the cop was armed with a Sig Sauer P320 pistol. The thing just kept firing on its own!

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

I heard a school resource officer poo poo their pants and this was all an elaborate cover-up so they could go home and change their pants before anyone noticed.

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug

Real hurthling! posted:

dont elementary classrooms have a bunch of windows they could have gone through if they were too scared to even check the door?
yes but then officers would have had to put themselves in danger

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

skooma512 posted:

I'm in favor of just creating progressively outlandish stories to rile people up, if they won't release the tapes.

I've been sure that's what's been going on under the hood since it first came out that one of the dead teachers was a copwife and knowledge of her husband's movements just adds on to it

Raiad
Feb 1, 2005

Without the law, there wouldn't be lawyers.


Stereotype posted:

there actually wasn’t a shooter at all and the cops murdered all the kids and the teachers for fun

the kids are all still alive, but the cops kidnapped them so their adrenochrome can be harvested

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Raiad posted:

the kids are all still alive, but the cops kidnapped them so their adrenochrome can be harvested

no

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
The school itself became sentient and shot the kids, the police were covering for the SCP cleanup team.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Kids aren't even real

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires
The school didn't even exist until the Chinese built it in a day and filled it with unrescuable hologram children to make American police look bad

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
The police used the shooting as cover to extract the kids for a sex trafficking ring and passed off previous victims as the current ones, hence why they had their faces blown off. ITS SO SIMPLE

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King
jokes aside, it is VERY funny how quick Gun People on the right and left have fully embraced the alex jones false flag/crisis actor poo poo for every single shooting

it can’t be that guns are everywhere in the US; the FBI/UN has to be behind it, too!

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



What leftist has embraced false flag poo poo?

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

The Demilich posted:

What leftist has embraced false flag poo poo?

Not about mass shootings, but it comes up all the time in foreign policy stuff in CSPAM

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

ikanreed posted:

Not about mass shootings, but it comes up all the time in foreign policy stuff in CSPAM

whatever could you mean by this?

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


Retromancer posted:

Uvalde is over and it's been like a month without someone doing a newsworthy (10+dead) mass shooting please close this thread.

Hey we can’t just celebrate the box box chain mass shootings that get 10+ kills. We also need to celebrate the mom and pop shootings that get maybe three or four kills too

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
False flag gladio stay behind Israeli art students

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

my bony fealty posted:

whatever could you mean by this?

The beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine got multiple accusations of false flag attacks.

I don't judge, because American foreign policy establishment have no qualms with lying freely, but it does seem to have been spurious in retrospect.

Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋
https://twitter.com/tplohetski/status/1539005390108622849
lol | lmao

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

skooma512 posted:

The police used the shooting as cover to extract the kids for a sex trafficking ring and passed off previous victims as the current ones, hence why they had their faces blown off. ITS SO SIMPLE

I've seen that exact conspiracy theory in the wild on Q Twitter.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

US Gun Culture is Domestic Gladio

You don't need weapons stashes if the anti-communist militants can legally own a hoard of guns

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

https://twitter.com/ksatnews/status/1539338618308796419?s=20&t=AD-otI4-2S8D5JQW72VBXg

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




so normal

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
the cops reacted like that because they had just murdered a bunch of small children and several adults

Avynte
Jun 30, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

"No one harms my wife except ME"

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/SarahBeckman3/status/1539403013139333121?s=20&t=XahJsEdqnsLACN_eHcU0Xg
https://twitter.com/SarahBeckman3/status/1539403376147972096?s=20&t=XahJsEdqnsLACN_eHcU0Xg

He's throwing everyone besides the Uvalde Public Schools police chief under the bus to be specific

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
who could this someone possibly be

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005
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the relase of evidence is preventing the truth from coming out

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mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005

"Government is going to take away your guns." It's also projection.

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