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Tuggy Tug lmao
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Jun 21, 2022 19:21
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ok thank god it’s a bit
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Jun 22, 2022 00:58
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Chamale posted:The Mongol conquests killed 40 to 60 million people. The British Raj killed somewhere between 600 million and 1.8 billion people. Where are you getting those kind of numbers from? They seem uh, slightly high.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Tuggy Tug lmao
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Quotey posted:Where are you getting those kind of numbers from? They seem uh, slightly high. Also counting the victims of the Finnish/Korean Hyperwar
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Quotey posted:Where are you getting those kind of numbers from? They seem uh, slightly high.
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Quotey posted:Where are you getting those kind of numbers from? They seem uh, slightly high. presumably https://mronline.org/2019/01/15/britain-robbed-india-of-45-trillion-thence-1-8-billion-indians-died-from-deprivation/ idk the website but that article mostly checks out as far as describing the reasoning of utsa patnaik. her methodology does not seem to account for opportunity costs in any sophisticated way, but rather assumes a gradual improvement over the pre-raj state of affairs, i.e. the avoidance of industrial and agricultural capitalism in india. this may be safely described as controversial, but the point is: the british really really hosed over india and mind-boggling numbers of people starved to death or died unnecessarily from illness or war as a result.
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Jun 22, 2022 10:33
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V. Illych L. posted:presumably Turns out the truth truly was in the middle.
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It's an interesting perspective, but I wouldn't take it as gospel. The 45T number is kind of... made up.A Buttery Pastry posted:Assuming similar birthrates for the period 1700-1950, India is missing about 31 billion person-years over that 250 year period. With a life expectancy of around 25 for most of that period, that is equal to 1.25 billion additional deaths compared to China. Or I guess, equal to 1.25 billion people dying 25 years earlier than they would have under a rule similar to China's. Yeah this seems more reasonable once you think about it, if you're fine with calculating things that way. The number just hit that "way too high" trigger. The mongolian one always did too, but I've never looked into it. It seems like a lot of murder over 100 years, but maybe it's using the same methodology?
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Quotey posted:It's an interesting perspective, but I wouldn't take it as gospel. The 45T number is kind of... made up.
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I bet if you really stretch it in stupid ways and look at the population growth of Irish disaporas you could have a billion out of Ireland
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Perhaps the British Raj did nothing wrong ever and we should all wuv and kiss them. That might be a more "realistic" reading of the numbers.
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I want to hug and kiss the British Raj and feel up it’s titties and rear end because I love it that much
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Jun 22, 2022 17:49
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And what's more it is shocking to see all the 'pro peace activists' push anti-police rhetoric when our society has no alternative as well resourced as they
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/BenDWalsh/status/1539619038783053824?t=ZYo_eS-PnSfmoU1NwoP3-g&s=19
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Quotey posted:It's an interesting perspective, but I wouldn't take it as gospel. The 45T number is kind of... made up. systemic deprivation is an extremely cost-efficient way of killing lots of people over a period of several years, and the british had systemic deprivation as official industrial policy in india. the 1,8 billions number is a, ah, high estimate, but the actual number is almost certainly in the nine digits, possibly in bengal alone - the pre-british indian system was fairly robust in the face of famine, and as noted they had a lot of crafted goods to export for cash which they could and did use to import food in times of scarcity as well as a system which wasn't really *healthcare*, but which at least wasn't directly conductive to promoting epidemics etc. when the british took over, they dismantled local workshops and cottage industries, turned huge parts of india into plantation-based cash-crop monoculture production supported by subsistence farming, centralised administration in urban areas and generally refused to step in when something went wrong. they also deliberately used starvation and displacement as a tactic against restive populations. even if measured against hypothetical local autocracies it was incredibly bad, and most regimes do not get the alternative costs charity when millions of people die on their watch.
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Jun 23, 2022 08:27
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A Buttery Pastry posted:he's right smoking is cool as hell bitch
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A Buttery Pastry posted:he's right only if we can also do away with other, more harmful things, like driving and having a job
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Raiad posted:only if we can also do away with other, more harmful things, like driving and having a job
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Jun 23, 2022 11:43
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Juuls are very, very bad and promoted to children lol
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Jun 23, 2022 12:34
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lol it's just getting rid of juul to clear the market for competitors nothing democrats do will ever be for the good of anything but corporations and pretending that they will is ignoring the entirety of their activity for your entire life
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V. Illych L. posted:systemic deprivation is an extremely cost-efficient way of killing lots of people over a period of several years, and the british had systemic deprivation as official industrial policy in india. the 1,8 billions number is a, ah, high estimate, but the actual number is almost certainly in the nine digits, possibly in bengal alone - the pre-british indian system was fairly robust in the face of famine, and as noted they had a lot of crafted goods to export for cash which they could and did use to import food in times of scarcity as well as a system which wasn't really *healthcare*, but which at least wasn't directly conductive to promoting epidemics etc. It was loving crazy in Late Victorian Holocausts where Davis explains that building an extensive and efficient railroad system in India didn't alleviate regional famines by making it possible to swiftly transport food to the afflicted area, but instead enabled price signals to travel faster, thus raising the prices on grains or whichever good was scarce in the given place and further aggravating the famine. And the white administrators would look at the hungry corpses stacked up like firewood and helplessly throw up their hands and go "it's the market whaddayagonnado!!!!!" as they continue to ship huge amounts of pilfered treasure back to old Blighty.
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Zvahl posted:lol it's just getting rid of juul to clear the market for competitors now that will be funny if the other puff pens get to stay but I thought they banned hookah pens and poo poo like that already
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grieving for Gandalf posted:now that will be funny if the other puff pens get to stay but I thought they banned hookah pens and poo poo like that already https://www.newsweek.com/fda-juul-ban-explained-why-biden-admin-reportedly-outlawing-e-cigarettes-1718323 that article posted:The FDA has previously cleared the way for Reynolds American Inc. and NJOY Holdings Inc.—Juul's biggest rivals—to keep tobacco-flavored e-cigarettes on the market, leading industry observers to expect a similar approval for Juul.
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Zvahl posted:https://www.newsweek.com/fda-juul-ban-explained-why-biden-admin-reportedly-outlawing-e-cigarettes-1718323 yeah that makes sense. it seems like the competitive edge being taken away is the flavor pretty pissed about menthols
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the scourge of juul lung will soon be vanquished. thank you Joe.
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Eating meat on a daily basis is likely worse than vaping for you as an individual and is certainly worse for the continued existence of the human race broadly (climate change etc), but few leftists advocate for the state banning the consumption of animal flesh. Personally I eat meat and smoke but that is because I have no more hope for the future so 
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drat horror queefs posted:Eating meat on a daily basis is likely worse than vaping for you as an individual and is certainly worse for the continued existence of the human race broadly (climate change etc), but few leftists advocate for the state banning the consumption of animal flesh.
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drat horror queefs posted:Personally I eat meat and smoke but that is because I have no more hope for the future so  gently caress it. Smoking is fine and my hot take is it’s a goddamn shame it’s been taxed to the point that only affluent people can really afford it anymore all the while a billion other things that are just as harmful are actively subsidized
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Russian Remoulade posted:https://twitter.com/jenny2x4/status/1539468656530407424?t=TXeZoeDPt9qFJO2Cozv-Fg&s=19 Guess I have to watch it now
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You are gonna think this is a bit. But it is not a bit. https://twitter.com/painter_crypto/status/1503374025745043459
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frankly the little dog SHOULD be trying to put the fire out!! https://twitter.com/solidarityaid/status/1539875822294962176
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Flesh Forge posted:You are gonna think this is a bit. But it is not a bit. more like garbaggio amirite?
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