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Everyone posted:Because Dweezil and Moon Unit were taken? His sister is named after Skarlet O'Hare and at least Obi-Wan freed his slaves.
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Lammasu posted:His sister is named after Skarlet O'Hare and at least Obi-Wan freed his slaves. Did he? After he and Qui-Gon bought Anakin as a child slave (and yeah, I'm starting to get SMG's point that the Jedi were evil), did Obi-Wan even tell Anakin, "You're free to pursue your own destiny?" Or did he just decide "Now that I kind of own you, I've decided that you're going to be my Padawan?"
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Jun 21, 2022 21:07
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They literally won him in a game of chance, Anakin is never freed at any point
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Jun 21, 2022 21:37
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The Jedi sucked. This is known.
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Jun 21, 2022 21:46
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWb7fLLf6pY
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A.o.D. posted:The Jedi sucked. This is known. They constantly hosed things up, for huge amounts of people and then just went into hiding rather than doing anything about it. At this point everyone trained by Yoda's training lineage has a 50% chance of being a sith lord.
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Jun 21, 2022 22:42
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Is the Jedi being terrible something Star Wars actually thinks or is it just something fans have latched onto?
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Jun 21, 2022 23:43
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live with fruit posted:Is the Jedi being terrible something Star Wars actually thinks or is it just something fans have latched onto? It's in the text, but the text is written and produced by different people with different levels of reverence for the Jedi, so there's a lot of "Well, it's complicated" in there.
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In a more cohesive sequel trilogy that was less reverential of the original material Luke would probably have formed a new Force order that didn't use the Jedi name or iconography because he recognized the faults within that order, and that aspect of the franchise could have moved beyond the Jedi/Sith binary. Not because it needs to move beyond Light/Dark side, but because there can be other organizations and views on that binary beyond those of the Jedi and Sith specifically.
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TV IV > MCU TV: CIVIL WAR? MORE LIKE STAR WARS!
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I want this show to go on forever
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Jun 22, 2022 00:25
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live with fruit posted:Is the Jedi being terrible something Star Wars actually thinks or is it just something fans have latched onto? Could interpret the prophecy business about bringing balance to the force in terms of the light side having been the unbalanced side. The sith just kinda stepped right into the system the Jedi created.
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Jun 22, 2022 00:26
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live with fruit posted:Is the Jedi being terrible something Star Wars actually thinks or is it just something fans have latched onto? Have you ever watched a Star Wars, of any kind,
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The prequel trilogy is pretty straightforward in its depiction of Jedi as clueless religious boobs who get swindled & hoodwinked by the most comically obvious villain of all time and besides that it’s a monastic cult that participated in slavery and politics when it suits them. That’s not any EU books or animated Tv shows, just the straight up Star Wars films themselves.
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Jun 22, 2022 00:51
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This is the kind of pure joy that is an antidote to, well, Star Wars.
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Bleck posted:Have you ever watched a Star Wars, of any kind, I've seen Star Wars. The original trilogy starts with Luke wanting to be a Jedi and ends with him proudly declaring himself a Jedi. I haven't seen The Last Jedi or The Rise of Skywalker but I'm under the impression that Rey also wants to be a Jedi. Seems like a lot of people want to be Jedi.
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live with fruit posted:I've seen Star Wars. The original trilogy starts with Luke wanting to be a Jedi and ends with him proudly declaring himself a Jedi. The moment when Luke proudly declares himself to be a Jedi is the same moment in which he rejects the points of view of the only two Jedi he's ever met, and he was right to do so.
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Bleck posted:The moment when Luke proudly declares himself to be a Jedi is the same moment in which he rejects the points of view of the only two Jedi he's ever met, and he was right to do so. Wasn't he rejecting the Emperor?
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This show is just so full of color and life. It's joyful. I love it.
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live with fruit posted:Wasn't he rejecting the Emperor? The Emperor was encouraging him to murder Darth Vader, opining it would turn him to the dark side. Note that this is also what Obi-Wan and Yoda wanted him to do.
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Bleck posted:The Emperor was encouraging him to murder Darth Vader, opining it would turn him to the dark side. Note that this is also what Obi-Wan and Yoda wanted him to do. He's also rejecting the Emperor specifically because he has emotional ties to Vader and believes a Force user having emotional ties is a good thing in general, as opposed to Obi Wan and Yoda, who tried to teach him that a Jedi should be without them and above them.
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None of this tells me, casual viewer, that I'm supposed to think the Jedi are bad. Especially since Luke celebrates with Yoda and Obi-Wan at the party.
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tsob posted:He's also rejecting the Emperor specifically because he has emotional ties to Vader and believes a Force user having emotional ties is a good thing in general, as opposed to Obi Wan and Yoda, who tried to teach him that a Jedi should be without them and above them.  Yeah. I know the general consensus is that "the Jedi maybe weren't all that great" is something that the prequels invented, but I think what information the original trilogy communicates about them is enough to come to the same conclusion.live with fruit posted:None of this tells me, casual viewer, If you're too casual to think about movies, who cares what you think about movies? That maybe sounds snippier than I intend, but I just never understand the argument that "the art must not be saying this because you'd have to think about it"
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live with fruit posted:None of this tells me, casual viewer, that I'm supposed to think the Jedi are bad. Especially since Luke celebrates with Yoda and Obi-Wan at the party. Counterpoint; I'm a casual viewer too, and don't even particularly like ANY of the Star Wars films, Original Trilogy, Prequel or Sequel. I've never even seen 1/3rd of them, having gotten bored of the prequels with Attack of the Clones and not finding The Force Awakens engaging enough to bother with either The Last Jedi or The Rise of Skywalker. I mostly like Star Wars for a few of the older games, books, comics and some of the animated shows rather than the films, or even any of the newer live action shows (Obi-Wan is the only one I've even watched all of so far and I doubt I'll watch a second season if it comes out). Casual viewer that I am though, I still think the films communicate that, and that's based on memories of them from 25 years or more ago.
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Bleck posted:
Casual Star Wars fan. Yeesh.
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It you’ve only ever seen the original trilogy then Jedi are good. The other 6 movies are where they flesh the Jedi out
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It's funny to say in an MCU thread but new Star Wars seems impenetrable. I watched one of the recap videos and they were talking about references to comics and video games.
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Y'all shut up about Star Wars and watch the colorful wedding dancing again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWb7fLLf6pY
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I hope they do the "Yummy infidel meat" seen from the comics. Wait, that sounded bad.
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Lammasu posted:I hope they do the "Yummy infidel meat" seen from the comics. Wait, that sounded bad. I'm sure Brian has been called worse names.
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Just watched Doctor Strange. I wish that one particular scene involved a chainsaw
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How the hell is this thread somehow still Star Wars chat?
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Is Moon Knight going to get a Season 2? Will Venom or Morbius be in Season 2 of Moon Knight? Is Blade going to be in Eternals 2?
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DrPaper posted:Is Moon Knight going to get a Season 2? Yes, no, no? Nothing's been announced but Moon Knight ends on a cliffhanger. Another season seems presumable. live with fruit fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Rarity posted:How the hell is this thread somehow still Star Wars chat? The latest MCU show is good so the thread has to find other things to fight about.
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Oh neat Clan Destines, that is a deep cut
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Clan Destine are full of poo poo, they already lied to Kamala about their intentions and the arm they ripped the bangle off of was a loving Kree arm. They are a Kree offshoot/experiment/sleeper cell, like the Inhumans, really feel like the djinn angle is a red herring
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Ep was good, Kamala's stretchy punch power looked fine, the dance scene ruled, Bruno was much better this week, I hope Nakia's not too mad  [/spoler]Firebert posted:[spoiler]the arm they ripped the bangle off of was a loving Kree arm Yeah it was real weird how none of them commented on that
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I WAS FUCKIN’ RIGHT ABOUT THE DJINN ANCESTRY!
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