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Bust Rodd posted:Not really, and besides that Brain Freeze is an instant so you can just respond to their effect by comboing off again and killing them anyway Are you pairing the Brain Freeze with a forced draw effect? E: Wait, you just mill yourself and Thoracle. I'm dumb. Toshimo posted:That's basically never a concern. Once in 100 games you might get got by an Emrakul, but it basically never happens. I was thinking more of a Gaea's Blessing than an Emrakul. Batterypowered7 fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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Batterypowered7 posted:I was thinking more of a Gaea's Blessing than an Emrakul. Nobody runs that. You're more afraid of stax effects than you are the random GB.
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Yeah Endurance is probably the only one seeing play right now. Endurance is really good and really strong, it hasnt really seen widespread adoption yet outside of 4-color farm and also because it’s a super in demands modern card and all the other forms of GY disruption are way, way cheaper and also static effects to boot.
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I think my next Commander deck is gonna be Kangee, Aerie Keeper.
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Batterypowered7 posted:Nobody runs any cards to prevent getting milled out? Then you can't win with your own Thassa's Oracle.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Then you can't win with your own Thassa's Oracle. People usually exile their deck they don’t mill it.
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pseudanonymous posted:People usually exile their deck they don’t mill it. Not when you mill yourself with Brain Freeze to win with Thassa's Oracle!
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Yeah, no, I was being a goober and thinking about milling* other people to win, not milling myself to Thoracle.
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A social contract/rule zero question - 3 friends and I, longtime 1v1 players, are about to start jamming EDH on Tabletop Simulator. We’re gonna start by netdecking decks cheaper than $500 from EDHREC. I’m a Jund fiend and want to give Yurlock a try. However, I keep seeing this card Stoneshaker Shaman in decklists. 2R Creature At the end of each player’s turn, that player sacrifices an untapped land. So, clearly the idea is to force opponents to mana burn themselves to save their lands. However, I’ve heard it mentioned several places that land destruction is frowned upon in EDH and violates the social contract. Is Stoneshaker Shaman one of those frowned upon cards? Or is it conditional enough to be OK? I don’t want to start our playgroup off on the wrong foot. Thanks y’all!  E: I’m also seeing Destructive Flow, about which I have the same confusion. BRG At the beginning of each player’s upkeep, that player sacrifices a nonbasic land. Perhaps these cards are OK because they are symmetrical? Hrm. Flutch fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Jun 23, 2022 14:27
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No one has ever complained about Stoneshaker Shaman, ever, and in general the only people who complain about Land Destruction are the people ramping 16 green lands into play with landfall. gently caress em, blow it up. Mass Land Destruction is frowned upon but only because it gets fired off as a reset button. If you stick a win con and THEN blow up lands, it’s actually fine to win the game. Also the “social contract” is made up! It’s not real, doesn’t exist!
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Flutch posted:A social contract/rule zero question - There hasn't been Mana Burn in over ten years, by the way. Damage doesn't go on the stack either.
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Batterypowered7 posted:There hasn't been Mana Burn in over ten years, by the way. Damage doesn't go on the stack either. … read what his commander does, lol
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Ahhh okay, thank you! I wasn’t considering mass land destro VS discrete. I’ll just roll with it. 😎Bust Rodd posted:Also the “social contract” is made up! It’s not real, doesn’t exist! Welcome to the desert of the real.
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Land destruction is only frowned upon if you just throw it out and then drag the game out from there. Targeted land destruction should be in most decks because gently caress letting someone Dark Depths + Thespian's Stage freely
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If you’re gonna proxy a Gaea’s cradle for your “casual” humans tribal deck, I will proxy up a “casual” Wasteland and casually tell you to “get fukt, nerd”
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Bust Rodd posted:… read what his commander does, lol I misread it as "Yarok" and was wondering what that had to do with Jund, lol.
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Flutch posted:I’m a Jund fiend and want to give Yurlock a try. My buddy just threw together a Yurlock deck and boy howdy has it been fun to play against. As for the LD question, my group has no qualms with it but your milage may vary. Targeted land destruction absolutely has a place in even casual builds and mass land destruction isn't completely game breaking, just very grindy if there is no win con on the board. Talk to your group but honestly you should at least be running Ghost Quarter, etc, to deal with problem lands.
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Ghost Quarter and Field of Ruin replace the destroyed land with a basic to not disrupt mana curves. There's a huge difference between that Armageddon or recurring Strip Mine.
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I have never not seen Strip Mine get played a lot even in the most casual of groups.
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Back in my day (2012) Strip Mine was as unambiguously automatic as Sol Ring, you wouldn’t DREAM of not having a way to deal with Cradle or Volrath’s Stronghold
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Talk to your group. It shouldn't be a problem, but commander players are a really weird bunch that can get very upset over random things. I know your group is new to EDH, but there's no telling how fast the brain worms can grow.
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my group doesn’t like land destruction and discard— we don’t care about the concept of winning defined as having everyone reach 0 as much as seeing our Jank Deck Do The Thing™. like even if I could run thoracle in a deck meant for it, “I win” infinites that simple don’t really feel like winning tbh
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Knot My President! posted:the concept of winning defined as having everyone reach 0 See? Brain worms.
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Batterypowered7 posted:Yeah, no, I was being a goober and thinking about milking other people to win, not milling myself to Thoracle. That's what the Mind Flayarrrs precon is all about, and I'm looking forward to upgrading it to mill more and steal/copy/reanimate more from other people's graveyards, and then blow up graveyards if I feel people gonna try and use their own yard. 
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Jiro posted:That's what the Mind Flayarrrs precon is all about, and I'm looking forward to upgrading it to mill more and steal/copy/reanimate more from other people's graveyards, and then blow up graveyards if I feel people gonna try and use their own yard. Yeah I've been upgrading this deck with what I can and will play it for the first time tonight, I'm fuckin pumped let's goooooooo gently caress youuuuu mill that poo poo and GIVE IT TO ME
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Aranan posted:See? Brain worms. we are all busy adults that can get together one day a week, and play / have played competitive formats for tabletop and video games basically our entire lives, if a game with four people is gonna take a while we wanna see everyone do something fun and feel like they weren’t left out
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Commander as Mario Party vs Commander as Mario Kart
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Bust Rodd posted:Commander as Mario Party vs Commander as Mario Kart Both of those games are far more vicious and cutthroat than any game of Magic has ever been.
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The Shortest Path posted:I have never not seen Strip Mine get played a lot even in the most casual of groups. I run all the strip mine style cards in all my 1-2 color decks and in some of my 3 color decks with ways to tutor for them. People in my area run some super greedy mana bases and Cradles and other super strong lands are very prevelant. Having a way to shut those down is critical and you can even politic with stripmine by blowing up a land that is causing the group issues and getting something favorable in turn.
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Bust Rodd posted:Commander as Mario Party vs Commander as Mario Kart Mario Party is a game of skill.
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TotalHell posted:Mario Party is a game of skill. If that's the case I'm the Luigi
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Mario Party is edh except one player always gets a tainted oracle win because bonus stars are bullshit
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This is the ideal game of EDH You may not like it, but this is what peak fun looks like.
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What's wrong with Jan Jansen that I'm not seeing other than he's non-blue? Nobody is talking about him at all. It's kinda like a magda shell but access to black tutors and white stax.
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Batterypowered7 posted:This is the ideal game of EDH Blurry and unfollowable?
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Toshimo posted:Blurry and unfollowable? Exactly
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Batterypowered7 posted:This is the ideal game of EDH Hand lookin' like a foot
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TheLawinator posted:What's wrong with Jan Jansen that I'm not seeing other than he's non-blue? Nobody is talking about him at all. It's kinda like a magda shell but access to black tutors and white stax. He has very different deckbuilding requirements, you can only use him once a turn without extra steps, he isn't as aggressive and threatening to decks that use life as a resource. Probably some other stuff too, I'm not super into the cedh meta.
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TheLawinator posted:What's wrong with Jan Jansen that I'm not seeing other than he's non-blue? Nobody is talking about him at all. It's kinda like a magda shell but access to black tutors and white stax. Well, for starters, he can't tutor out his own wincon.
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Double+Masters+2022/Smothering+Tithe-borderless#paper Finally a reprint and new art. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/spoilers/Double+Masters+2022#paper So many precon reprints and or staples........that should have loving gone into CL2 Jiro fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jun 24, 2022 |
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