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Jun 23, 2022 17:48
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Yeah I think it's also tied into the long tradition of Arthurian legend/Tolkien fantasy/Shakespearean drama being Very British that engrains the unconscious sentiment from Americans of "if it's old timey and European it should sound British"
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Jun 23, 2022 17:51
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Expecting a whole lot of 'I don't give a mummer's arse' style dialogue
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Jun 23, 2022 17:54
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Yeah I think it's also tied into the long tradition of Arthurian legend/Tolkien fantasy/Shakespearean drama being Very British that engrains the unconscious sentiment from Americans of "if it's old timey and European it should sound British" Also, like, we speak English. It’s not weird to think of Europe and use the accents of the people who speak English natively, who we have the closest cultural ties to
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Jun 23, 2022 17:56
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Mordiceius posted:I am mainly referring to the idea that British accent = authority. Except this isn't a documentary, it's a medieval fantasy. And yes, I think most people equate medieval swords-and-sorcery with Europe, and in particular with Arthurian legend, which is logical. As for why people like hearing British accents in their documentaries, it's because a "proper" or "posh" British accent sounds sophisticated and educated, and education = they know what they're talking about. A cockney accent wouldn't have the same impact because it sounds unsophisticated. American accents don't really have the same divide. You have the "Southern" = uneducated trope, but "normal" American doesn't imply any sophistication or education to Americans. edit: slow reply.
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Jun 23, 2022 17:57
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It’s not logical, it’s arbitrary. Which isn’t a big deal, a lot of things are arbitrary
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Jun 23, 2022 17:59
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uk just the texas of europe. they arent fancy anymore
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Jun 23, 2022 18:01
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Frankly I like getting UK VAs because they tend to have a background in stage acting so they can be enjoyably dramatic. I’m also deeply tired of the same few LA based actors. They aren’t bad they’re just in everything
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Jun 23, 2022 18:04
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British accent isn't really the only one there's an inherent sort of assumption about either, in the US. People have assumptions about Southern drawls, inner city slang, strong Midwestern accents, etc. British accents just kind of fall into the "Posh, authoritative when it comes to knowledge, and fantasy" niches there.
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Jun 23, 2022 18:05
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CharlestheHammer posted:It’s not logical, it’s arbitrary. Which isn’t a big deal, a lot of things are arbitrary How is it "arbitrary" equating British accents with medieval fantasy when the most well-known (in America) ancient and influential medieval fantasy is Arthurian, with literal magic swords and wizards and sorceresses? That's not what arbitrary means....
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thetoughestbean posted:Frankly I like getting UK VAs because they tend to have a background in stage acting so they can be enjoyably dramatic. I’m also deeply tired of the same few LA based actors. They aren’t bad they’re just in everything I miss Ocean dubs for anime. I can't even remember the last one I listened to.... Unless the Inuyasha sequel had it? Hm. I didn't watch that past Episode 1, though Also Gabranth's and Cid's Englis VAs are what made XII's voice-acting amazing. They didn't even get Gabranth's VA back for Dissidia. He's just an all time great voice in a video game in one game and that's it. In any event, they should just do Dragon Age Origins' thing like I said earlier and have different accents for different regions.
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Jun 23, 2022 18:09
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AngryRobotsInc posted:British accent isn't really the only one there's an inherent sort of assumption about either, in the US. People have assumptions about Southern drawls, inner city slang, strong Midwestern accents, etc. There’s also Scottish and Irish accents which translate to “funny guy who’s maybe more in touch with nature and really likes to drink and fight” Americans have no assumptions about the Welsh because we forget that Wales exists
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Jun 23, 2022 18:10
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I didn't realize there were people very concerned with VA accents to the point that YoshiP has bowed to their tyranny. I mean I guess I liked the VA in the first Xenoblade because it was different so that was neato. I do get the point about being able to place a lot of American VA's because the well known ones pop up in everything but Americans needing British VA for documentaries and fantasy stuff is kind of 
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Jun 23, 2022 18:13
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Yeah I think it's also tied into the long tradition of Arthurian legend/Tolkien fantasy/Shakespearean drama being Very British that engrains the unconscious sentiment from Americans of "if it's old timey and European it should sound British" Probably this. Every language has an "old-timey" variant that may not be realistic but it's associated with medieval/old stuff, like in Spanish it's 1500s stuff like Quixote or Lope de Vega's plays. It's just that for Americans that'd be Britain, so British accents.
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Jun 23, 2022 18:14
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thetoughestbean posted:There’s also Scottish and Irish accents which translate to “funny guy who’s maybe more in touch with nature and really likes to drink and fight” elden ring’s corrected that somewhat
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Jun 23, 2022 18:14
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Schwartzcough posted:How is it "arbitrary" equating British accents with medieval fantasy when the most well-known (in America) ancient and influential medieval fantasy is Arthurian, with literal magic swords and wizards and sorceresses? Authorial isn’t medieval Authorian legend in that most people are aware of it is pre medieval. During the Saxon invasion to be precise
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Jun 23, 2022 18:16
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Medieval as most people think of it is post Norman conquest
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Jun 23, 2022 18:18
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CharlestheHammer posted:Medieval as most people think of it is post Norman conquest That's odd, given that's 1066 and Western Roman Empire fell in 476....
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Jun 23, 2022 18:21
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OddObserver posted:That's odd, given that's 1066 and Western Roman Empire fell in 476.... Americans are taught that the medieval era was from about 1100 until the Renaissance - or at least, that's how many believe. Ask your average American what was going on between 500ce-1000ce and their brain would probably short circuit.
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Jun 23, 2022 18:23
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CharlestheHammer posted:Authorial isn’t medieval Authorian legend in that most people are aware of it is pre medieval. During the Saxon invasion to be precise No they aren’t. If you asked most Americans when the Saxon invasion was they’d have a 50/50 chance of even knowing that was a thing!
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Jun 23, 2022 18:23
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Troy Baker should voice everyone in the game, including the women and children. Doesn’t even need to modify his voice.
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Jun 23, 2022 18:23
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HD DAD posted:Troy Baker should voice everyone in the game, including the women and children. Doesn’t even need to modify his voice. Come on now, you've got to leave a little room for Laura Bailey
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Jun 23, 2022 18:24
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OddObserver posted:That's odd, given that's 1066 and Western Roman Empire fell in 476.... When do you think the medieval period started….because it has is usually roughly between 1000 and 15th to 16th century. You know when feudalism as a concept was a thing rather than the pre period when it was a bunch of ad hoc systems set up in the collapse of the empire
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Jun 23, 2022 18:28
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one of the most highly regarded western fantasy RPGs for dialogue ever has the main character with an American accent (lol)
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Oxxidation posted:elden ring’s corrected that somewhat im never replaying an AC ever again but it was in Assassins Creed 4 too, though not a thick Welsh accent
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Jun 23, 2022 18:30
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Xenoblade Chronicles 2 invented the Welsh Catgirl and frankly, I think every Welshman should have cat ears
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Jun 23, 2022 18:32
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Mordiceius posted:Americans are taught that the medieval era was from about 1100 until the Renaissance - or at least, that's how many believe.
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Jun 23, 2022 18:34
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I think they'd get it right with their answer of "I dunno, poo poo sucked?" "Everyone lived in poor villages, then there was Rome, which killed Jesus and fell because Julius Caesar died. Then poo poo sucked. Then the Renaissance happened." -Your average American's knowledge of European history, probably.
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Jun 23, 2022 18:41
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Which is leagues of understanding more than the history of our own continent, because lol colonialism.
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Jun 23, 2022 18:43
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I play everything in Japanese anyway
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CharlestheHammer posted:Medieval as most people think of it is post Norman conquest Medieval as most people think of it is "that time with a bunch of castles and swords and catapults and poo poo."
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Medieval is just Dragon's Dogma, including the mythical monsters imo.
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No Dignity posted:Come on now, you've got to leave a little room for Laura Bailey Just no more Steve Blum please god
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Jun 23, 2022 19:01
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Dubs were, are, and will always be a mistake.
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Where does FFXVI fall in this, given that all the mo-cap was done in English first despite the script being originally written in Japanese
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Jun 23, 2022 19:05
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Gaius Marius posted:Dubs were, are, and will always be a mistake. I think games are a medium where dubs do serve a practical function, in modern live action games there's plenty of contexts where it's just not practical to read subs, like combat dialogue or radio chatter where gameplay occurs
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Jun 23, 2022 19:08
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yeah subtitles do add a distancing effect but i'll still generally prefer them though i've seen some really good english dubs in games
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Dubs are good
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Feels Villeneuve posted:one of the most highly regarded western fantasy RPGs for dialogue ever has the main character with an American accent (lol) What game are you talking about, out of curiosity?
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