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That may be correct this time next year. https://twitter.com/BadDataTakes/status/1539595113944563714
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God drat it, stop making me feel hopeful. A sudden surge in class consciousness in the UK, an articulate and likeable figurehead for the trade union movement slowly becoming a household name, more unions voting for strike action ugggh
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ah yes, the mean median wage, classic reliable measure of mathematicsGuavanaut posted:That may be correct this time next year. that would still be the mean wage, median of the hypothetical 4-worker rail sector would be about £42k
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Angepain posted:ah yes, the mean median wage, classic reliable measure of mathematics They should really be highlighting the mode of transport
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Bobby Deluxe posted:https://twitter.com/zinovievletter/status/1539896477438320641?t=tWpUJL_HX625nKTPNrDg7A&s=19 Made me proper nostalgic for the days of Penis PenisPenis.
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OwlFancier posted:I enjoy that he disclaims being a marxist and then immediately follows it by explaining marxist theory of worker/employer relations. I have a feeling that he just avoids a term he knows is used to mean "Stalinist" by people with lead-addled brains.
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Oh sure like I cannot imagine that he is unfamiliar with marx, just funny, especially that any interviewer that knows the first thing about marxism outside of a scary word would be able to pick up on it.
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I'm not making near £34,998. Unless they're including the supervisors who are paid a lot more than the rank and file. Maybe counting the money given to agencies before they pass it down to the trackmen.
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bessantj posted:I'm not making near £34,998. Unless they're including the supervisors who are paid a lot more than the rank and file. Maybe counting the money given to agencies before they pass it down to the trackmen. Yeah at least for Northern they are 5k too high for drivers and 3k-ish high for conductors, all other on board staff earn significantly less and with poorer contract conditions. And they are the biggest TOC (in terms of service numbers) outside of TFL. Also worth noting conductors used to make a nice extra with 5% comission on all on board sales, but eventually someone climbing the greasy pole to Finance Director decided that was too high a price to pay so pledged to make it virtually impossible to board a train without a ticket at most stations, and face severe penalties for doing so when it does happen. Compare that to 2008 when I easily cleared £2000 (a tidy £100!) takings on a monday morning shift. They have been given a deal to get payment per eticket scan but the process is unreliable and a few pence per scan. Bacon Terrorist fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Jun 23, 2022 17:54
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Jesus this sounds awful. Also I welcome more strike action taking place, everywhere and all the time.
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https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1539867888563232768 Oh no the media sharks smell blood and have found what they'll latch on to in order to destroy Mick Lynch
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Jesus Christ that is an absolute hack job of a question. "Let me ask you a complex question and four words in I'm going to cut you off" Shameless.
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FBPEs would have found a reason to turn on him anyway, I'm just thankful nobody started talking about gametes, and the red tops can hardly use "bad trade union thug did brexit" as an attack line.
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Not too surprising that a guy who wants the public services taken back into public ownership would see leaving the EU as a positive thing in terms of barriers to renationalisation.
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crispix posted:brexit actually is working pretty well for northern ireland Never expected old N.I. to be nearly equal to London in anything.... nor the rest to be so far behind, behold the Brexit Benefit!! 
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Tesseraction posted:Also FBPE was clearly just an anti-Corbyn psy-op as you could tell from the way Keith took office and immediately said "Brexit? who cares" and no-one batted an eye. Absolutely not, they are still there raging away all day every day. Earlier today some Lord posted that the changes to the HRA are the worst infringement on human rights in Britain for 1,000 years and rather than bring up say, the expulsion of the Jews, it was just hundreds of FBPE replies going “what about Brexit???”
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Oh, sure, but those are the idiot rubes that got worked into a frenzy for the benefit of the rich; they can be safely ignored by those in power now that they've served their purpose, it's neither here nor there if they continue believing that anyone actually gives a poo poo about their opinion.
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Guavanaut posted:FBPEs would have found a reason to turn on him anyway, I'm just thankful nobody started talking about gametes, and the red tops can hardly use "bad trade union thug did brexit" as an attack line. I’m obviously behind, I thought all progressives were uniting behind him?
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Oh, sure, but those are the idiot rubes that got worked into a frenzy for the benefit of the rich; they can be safely ignored by those in power now that they've served their purpose, it's neither here nor there if they continue believing that anyone actually gives a poo poo about their opinion. i'll have you know i went to universities and did LOTS AND LOTS of degrees and lots and lots of hard modules like clever wizard dumbledores at hogfarts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  i worked very very very hard to be a gobshite on twitter all day
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TACD posted:Almost every one of these was an experience of "huh, haven't heard anything from that oval office in a while" and then you realise it doesn't even matter because there's an endless parade of shiny new cunts to take their place I was very pro Chukka Ummuna for a while and seeing he now works for an investment bank is pretty loving miserable.
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McFlurry Fan #1 posted:I was very pro Chukka Ummuna for a while and seeing he now works for an investment bank is pretty loving miserable. I'm sorry, what on earth possessed you to be pro-the-most-Blairite-man-this-side-of-Tony-Blair?
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McFlurry Fan #1 posted:I was very pro Chukka Ummuna for a while Gross. Why?
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peanut- posted:Absolutely not, they are still there raging away all day every day. Oh I'm sure the Twitter idiots brayed but the virulent "Corbyn must resign for causing Brexit" media all turned on a dime to "Brexit happened get over it"
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Bacon Terrorist posted:Yeah at least for Northern they are 5k too high for drivers and 3k-ish high for conductors, all other on board staff earn significantly less and with poorer contract conditions. And they are the biggest TOC (in terms of service numbers) outside of TFL. They thought 5% was too much? loving hell. I only get a bonus around Christmas time for working so called "Premium Shifts". We get double hourly rate for 24th(night)/25th/26th/31st(night) and 1st and if you work all your allotted premium shifts then you get a £400 per shift. They are good little earners and Network Rail was going to stop it but quite a few of us kicked up a fuss and said we wouldn't work Christmas so they've backed off, so far.
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Mr Phillby posted:The whole chuktig thing was very funny in hindsight. Forming your own party, getting other MPs to jump ship with you, then immediately abandoning them to lose for the lib dems instead lol also for their launch day to immediately end up with the penis tone woman talking about people with a "funny tinge" leading CUKTIG to becoming the Tingedependent Group
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Shyrka posted:Chuka was the British Obama, and a lot of people were pro-Obama back in the day too. wasn't that Wiki edit traced to the IP of the House of Commons?
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Julio Cruz posted:wasn't that Wiki edit traced to the IP of the House of Commons? I mean it's almost certain he put that on his own page yes
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Shyrka posted:Chuka was the British Obama, and a lot of people were pro-Obama back in the day too. Obama wasn't the communist marxist the right wanted him to be while in office, and didn't push for near as many things as he could have, but he was at least cool prior to the presidency and used the bully pulpit to nudge the consensus on same sex marriage and cannabis law reform in the courts and states, whereas Chuka did ????? Beefeater1980 posted:I’m obviously behind, I thought all progressives were uniting behind him? But they are not progressives so you may still be right.
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Bacon Terrorist posted:Also worth noting conductors used to make a nice extra with 5% comission on all on board sales, but eventually someone climbing the greasy pole to Finance Director decided that was too high a price to pay so pledged to make it virtually impossible to board a train without a ticket at most stations, and face severe penalties for doing so when it does happen. Compare that to 2008 when I easily cleared £2000 (a tidy £100!) takings on a monday morning shift. They have been given a deal to get payment per eticket scan but the process is unreliable and a few pence per scan. It's utterly daft at the remote platforms in scotland and the north where the train pulls up and you're desperately fumbling with the ticket machine trying to make it work when the conductor has a perfectly good ticket machine on the train but they charge you more for using it. Like mate I am getting on with my wallet in hand waiting for you to come by with the machine and the train is two cars long, you don't have to treat me like I'm personally walking out of northern rail's HQ with a big bag of pounds over my shoulder.
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