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Elias_Maluco posted:Is weird how different is the reception of the Obi Wan show here in the thread compared to what Im seeing outside. In twitter and such Im mostly seeing positive reactions "wow awesome!!! this is real star wars!!!" etc I've been stressing this a lot, but Obiwan show is the "prestige TV" equivalent of the Sequel Trilogy films and Solo. So when you're seeing this praise, it's coming from Solo fans and/or those weird folks who like both Episode 8 AND Episode 9.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Is weird how different is the reception of the Obi Wan show here in the thread compared to what Im seeing outside. In twitter and such Im mostly seeing positive reactions "wow awesome!!! this is real star wars!!!" etc I’d say it’s not terrible and I personally enjoyed my time with it. It has some entertaining moments, some great actors and a couple of fun set pieces. But it’s amateur writing and editing. None of that is going to be enough for a lot of people to have their fun spoiled. It wasn’t for me at least. I’m sad because the basis of something fantastic was in there. Maybe 6-6.5 out of 10 or something. But it’s all dependent on how tolerant you are. Like I see people complaining about the lightsabers. And I agree, I preferred the old style a lot. But it’s not a dealbreaker to me.
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The last episode was a decently dumb end to a bad series. It has some good aspects, it's easy to imagine how Leia goes from being a senator's daughter to actively smuggling ships to the rebel cells in an infinitely better show, Reva getting clowned on by the Lars was infinitly amusing, and the Grand Inquisitor comes off as the only sane man in the Empire.
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2house2fly posted:Oh God I agree so much on the sword fights. What made them think this halogen floodlight bullshit would be a good idea?! I like it in theory. I thought they looked good in the sequels but in Obi wan they’re kinda iffy. Maybe turn down the brightness a bit? Put some white tape over then to diffuse them?
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Randalor posted:the Grand Inquisitor comes off as the only sane man in the Empire. He did make a v funny "well okayy it's your call.." face next to Darth
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Jun 23, 2022 18:47
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Ingmar terdman posted:He did make a v funny "well okayy it's your call.." face next to Darth The few times he's in the series, he's the voice of reason in a sea of batshit crazy ideas.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:7 years or so between the this fight and the one in Rebels. 19 years but an infinite number of lovely shows that they can shove into that timeline. How many years pass in-universe between Episode 6 and Episode 7? Even if they discard/retcon the sequel trilogy there's a ton of stuff they can mine from that interim period. Eventually they'll back up a big enough money truck to Sebastian Stan's house for a couple of seasons of "Luke Skywalker, Jedi instructor".
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Mat Cauthon posted:19 years but an infinite number of lovely shows that they can shove into that timeline. I feel like the ST was so negatively received that they're gonna hold off on anything even tenuously related to it for the foreseeable future Though maybe the Ahsoka show will go hard and she'll run into Captain Phasma at some point I dunno
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feedmyleg posted:The Disney era isn't interested in telling stories, it's only interested in filling gaps. Stuffing gaps with vapid content and merch.
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this sucks in a lot of ways, but the most distracting for me is the braindead use of digital camera shake. they apply this identical "slightly too slow and smooth" camera shake to every single shot... even ones where the camera is 25 feet away and has no reason to be shaking. Video editing tip: if you have after effects, you can add this exact camera shake to any footage by clicking a single button and typing "wiggle(4,10)." The first number is the speed and the second number is the amount. The only risk is that you need to pick your values carefully or it will look extremely fake and lovely, such as in the $150 million dollar "Obi Wan" Disney television show edit: argh i think I see why the camera shake looks off... i think they might have put the camera shake on top of edited sequences of clips rather than individual clips, which means that the shake continues in the same direction even when cutting between camera angles. ideally you'd want to apply camera shake to individual shots, so it looks like the shake was captured by those cameras. also of course this type of shake is fully 2d and you don't see the perspective move with the camera. oh well Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Polo-Rican posted:Video editing tip: if you have after effects, you can add this exact camera shake to any footage by clicking a single button and typing "wiggle(4,10)." The first number is the speed and the second number is the amount. The only risk is that you need to pick your values carefully or it will look extremely fake and lovely, such as in the $150 million dollar "Obi Wan" Disney television show Can I get a helmet wobble
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I'm gonna apply "wiggle(-4,10)" to the scene to steady the camera.
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Polo-Rican posted:Video editing tip: if you have after effects, you can add this exact camera shake to any footage by clicking a single button and typing "wiggle(4,10)." The first number is the speed and the second number is the amount. The only risk is that you need to pick your values carefully or it will look extremely fake and lovely, such as in the $150 million dollar "Obi Wan" Disney television show I'm curious, do you have an example of this digital effect being used well? The only time I've noticed it being digital is, obviously, when it's done poorly. So I don't know when it's a digital effect and when it's Paul Greengrass literally shaking his camera.
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Polo-Rican posted:this sucks in a lot of ways, but the most distracting for me is the braindead use of digital camera shake. Yeah, this is a distressingly common technique to cover up poor shot design. I've worked on shows where we've gotten pretty far through a sequence and the director realizes that the stuff they shot is feeling kind of static (or they're just getting bored with it after seeing the same footage every day for months) and starts requesting additional camera shake. It usually starts off with just one or two shots that need a bit of extra energy, but then they realize those shots don't cut together with the non-shaky shots next to them, and it cascades to the entire sequence becoming a shaky, blurry mess. I don't think they would have applied the shake on top of the sequence as a whole, though - unless there's no other VFX in the shot, digital shake is generally applied on a per-shot basis by the individual VFX artists. Though sometimes the filmmakers will ask the VFX artists to exactly match the temp camera shake applied by their editors, so it might be a remnant of that. That's pretty rare though, so maybe a bunch of shots are using the same random seed for their shake, and it's one that happens to have movement in the same direction at the start and end of the shot - something like that probably wouldn't be caught when reviewing shots outside of their sequence context. thrawn527 posted:I'm curious, do you have an example of this digital effect being used well? The only time I've noticed it being digital is, obviously, when it's done poorly. So I don't know when it's a digital effect and when it's Paul Greengrass literally shaking his camera. It's super common - a good rule of thumb is that if the camera is reacting to something digital, the camera shake is also digital. So if a big creature stomps on the ground and shakes the camera, it's digital. Or if a character is standing on top of a vehicle and the camera's being buffeted by the wind, that's also digital because it was probably filmed with a stopped car in a parking lot with a greenscreen. Or if it looks like the camera's on a dolly or crane, it's probably digital shake as well, since those are specifically designed to provide smooth movement and don't usually have someone drumming on the camera to provide shake (unless the director is JJ Abrams). Robot Style fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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thrawn527 posted:I'm curious, do you have an example of this digital effect being used well? The only time I've noticed it being digital is, obviously, when it's done poorly. So I don't know when it's a digital effect and when it's Paul Greengrass literally shaking his camera. One of the Deadpool 2 guys made his camera shake presets for that film freely downloadable.
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thrawn527 posted:I'm curious, do you have an example of this digital effect being used well? The only time I've noticed it being digital is, obviously, when it's done poorly. So I don't know when it's a digital effect and when it's Paul Greengrass literally shaking his camera. Planet Terror
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A wheezing, dying (but somehow unkillable), shambling frankenstein monster that used to be human and full of promise but as its original components wither and die it gets swapped out with more and more artificial replacement parts by a fairly incompetent (but equally unstopabble) empire. Occasionally it reveals a flicker of its original humanity but honestly you just hope the next generation can finally kill it And then you have darth vader who kinda apologized before he died at least
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Halloween Jack posted:Is there any explanation for why Vader didn't kill Reva. Spinoffs and cameos in spinoffs Halloween Jack posted:or why Kenobi didn't kill Vader?
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Calaveron posted:Because Darth Vader has to be alive for the movies Hayden Vader isn't as big as Prowse Vader, ergo we need to find Bigger Vader at some point, so Kenobi could've killed Vader without breaking canon
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Obi-Wan's rationale for sparing Vader is explained when he talks to Reva: by sparing their enemies they honour the dead rather than becoming evil in the name of revenge or whatever. I prefer the post on this forum somewhere that said in the Revenge Of The Sith novelisation Obi-Wan is characterised as flowing with the Force and letting it act through him, and the Force was simply saying not to kill Vader at that moment so he didn't
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Were they honoring the dead when they popped two fully staffed death stars? That's a stupid rationalization for why they didn't kill Vader. Would've been better if obiwan had said I will not kill you the force still needs you for something
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Have Vader be at KEnobi's mercy until suprise there's a more consequential quigon cameo
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2house2fly posted:Obi-Wan's rationale for sparing Vader is explained when he talks to Reva: by sparing their enemies they honour the dead rather than becoming evil in the name of revenge or whatever. I prefer the post on this forum somewhere that said in the Revenge Of The Sith novelisation Obi-Wan is characterised as flowing with the Force and letting it act through him, and the Force was simply saying not to kill Vader at that moment so he didn't Well yeah, that makes way more sense than having the spirit of Batman and the Comics Code Authority suddenly swell within him. josh04 fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jun 24, 2022 |
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Any movie where the hero offs a dozen thugs before sparing the bad guy at the climax is a display of cowardice. Ra's Al Ghul does not deserve more mercy than his security guards.
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Halloween Jack posted:Is there any explanation for why Vader didn't kill Reva, So before the show came out someone leaked the entire show plot episode by episode (I even read it) and it was 100% exactly what happened on the show. So it was definitely genuine. The Sole difference I can remember was that there was a shuffling around at the end where Reva goes after Luke, after she fails/is redeemed, she reports to Vader and lies that she tracked down and killed Obi Wan. Vader then kills her because he knows she’s lying and it’s all “Now he can’t hunt Obi Wan because without Reva the trail is cold, thus by letting herself be killed Reva defeated Vader.”. Now this strangely didn’t happen on screen despite the leaks being otherwise 100% correct, so what happened? Remember that twitter drama about racists harassing Revas actor? How Disney said they reshot the ending in response? I think that’s exactly what happened. Revas ending was awkwardly reshot at the last second and replaced with that nonsensical scene where Palpatine calls Vader and just says “nah don’t bother finding the most dangerous man in the galaxy just give up.”
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BiggestBatman posted:Have Vader be at KEnobi's mercy until suprise there's a more consequential quigon cameo Goddamn that would've been so much better
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BiggestBatman posted:Have Vader be at KEnobi's mercy until suprise there's a more consequential quigon cameo Qui-Gon speaking to Obi-Wan through the force, telling him to not kill Anakin would've been neat, while Anakin/Vader is unaware...powerful stuff. Instead we basically got the force ghost equivalent of "wazzzup" lmao.
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RC Cola posted:I liked kenobi 
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BiggestBatman posted:Have Vader be at KEnobi's mercy until suprise there's a more consequential quigon cameo drat that would've owned. They could've even used the "force ghost grabbing a lightsaber" concept from the original episode 9 script.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I've been stressing this a lot, but Obiwan show is the "prestige TV" equivalent of the Sequel Trilogy films and Solo. So when you're seeing this praise, it's coming from Solo fans and/or those weird folks who like both Episode 8 AND Episode 9. Last Jedi is good though.
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BiggestBatman posted:Have Vader be at KEnobi's mercy until suprise there's a more consequential quigon cameo Dexter Jettster crashes his podracer into Obi-Wan and tells him not to kill what he hates but save what he loves?
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Danger posted:Last Jedi is good though.
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I would have probably been more forgiving of the show if they had awkwardly brought back Dexter Jettster but ignoring the fun parts of the prequels seems like the current MO so 
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Captain Jesus posted:Instead they have the duel on a barren greenscreen planet. a barren greenscreen planet that we can't even see.
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Vinylshadow posted:Hayden Vader isn't as big as Prowse Vader, ergo we need to find Bigger Vader at some point, so Kenobi could've killed Vader without breaking canon Clearly Anakin Vader gets killed in Obi-Wan Season 2: Twobi-Wan, and gets replaced by Prowse Vader. Then there will be a second season of Book of Boba Fett consisting entirely of flashbacks set between ANH and ESB, explaining how Boba helped bring back Anakin Vader.
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Schwarzwald posted:I'm gonna apply "wiggle(-4,10)" to the scene to steady the camera. The funny thing is After Effects seeds its RNG solely with the wiggling layer's index number by default, so if they didn't set a custom RNG seed this could potentially actually work.
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It probably took all the restraint they had to keep themselves from putting Grogu somewhere in the crowd on Jabiiim.
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Danger posted:Last Jedi is good though. Ha! Good one!
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Ha! Good one!
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