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AFO was fine when he was fighting All Might and being smug in jail but ever since he's gotten out he's the worst type of "haha you thought you had me but I will pull something out of my rear end at the last second!!" type of villain that is supremely boring.
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He's not really doing that though, he's getting his rear end kicked. Also we're literally 2+ years out I think from him flat out saying the quirks he stole still have wills of their original owners.
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Jun 19, 2022 17:54
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Fabricated posted:He's not really doing that though, he's getting his rear end kicked. Also we're literally 2+ years out I think from him flat out saying the quirks he stole still have wills of their original owners. I'm including his take over of Shigaraki in that
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Jun 19, 2022 18:18
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I'd forgive everything if AFO at one point was just like "Ah, I see you're flashing back to your childhood for strength! The heroes in my brother's comics used to do that a lot too!" and just slapped someone back to reality mid-internal search for motivation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2oSSDOB9Sg
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Jun 19, 2022 18:32
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Oxxidation posted:still very annoyed that the main reason AFO keeps taking hits is because all his quirks are suddenly sentient and don't like him I agree, it just cheapens the effort and abilities of characters fighting him for no good reason.
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Jun 19, 2022 19:51
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Speaking of the War arc, there's a new trailer for season 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mezyq2OX6TM
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Mirko spotted
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Fwiw AfO feels as sad to still be a part of this story as we are to see him. Poor guy being forced out of retirement just to job so Hori doesn't get yelled at by editors.
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AfO made fun of Dabi for not having any friends, so he's a valid inclusion in my eyes.oh jay posted:I know it's a super common shonen trope in general, but has MHA had even a single fight that didn't flashback to a pivotal point in characters past? I know you weren't actually asking but it was fun to think about since there are more than I thought there'd be. Discounting large fights naturally: Bakugo vs Uraraka Bakugo vs Todoroki Deku vs Bakugo: Round 2 just flashed some images of them as kids so that might count Deku vs Muscular (both times I think) Stain vs UA students Joint Training fights 1 + 4 Shigaraki vs Everyone had barely anything iirc All Might vs Nomu Endeavor + Hawks vs High End Mirko vs High Ends Uraraka vs Toga Hawks vs Dabi/Twice Nephthys fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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Jun 19, 2022 20:55
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Nonexistence posted:Fwiw AfO feels as sad to still be a part of this story as we are to see him. Poor guy being forced out of retirement just to job so Hori doesn't get yelled at by editors. Somehow, AFO returned.
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Jun 19, 2022 21:59
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Wait this chapter brought up a good point: All of AfO’s quirks are copies, he gave the originals to Shiggy. But the ghosts are still there. Did they copy the ghosts too?
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Jun 19, 2022 22:34
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He gave his original quirk and probably some of the more useful quirks, but I don't think he gave away every quirk he'd stolen. Particularly since he made a point of collecting more to make up for his disabilities. And this chapter made it sufficiently clear AFO's current problem is that his quirk copy is not as effective as the original at keeping the other quirks under control.
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Jun 19, 2022 22:49
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Kyte posted:He gave his original quirk and probably some of the more useful quirks, but I don't think he gave away every quirk he'd stolen. Particularly since he made a point of collecting more to make up for his disabilities. Oh wait you’re right, he meant his AfO quirk is a copy.
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Jun 19, 2022 22:51
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He somehow gave Shigaraki a copy of all his quirks, including Ragdoll's, which he stole hours before All Might caved his face in. The timeline doesn't really make sense to me, but that's comics baby.
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Jun 19, 2022 22:56
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oh jay posted:He somehow gave Shigaraki a copy of all his quirks, including Ragdoll's, which he stole hours before All Might caved his face in. The timeline doesn't really make sense to me, but that's comics baby. The doctor had a whole lab full of copied quirks that he stuffed into Shiggy. I'm not sure if the series ever said exactly what he needs to copy a quirk, but I assume a few hours is all he needed to get what he needed from AFO or Ragdoll to eventually make a copy of her quirk.
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Jun 19, 2022 23:00
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 Vague, but feels like it should take longer than a few hours. And even if it was that quick, the Doctor wasn't at the Nomu factory where they found Ragdoll anyway. And it would have been weird for it to be a rush job, since All For One did not prepare or intend to fight All Might at Kamino that day.
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Given AFO hasn't shown signs of keeping Search, he probably passed the original quirk for that particular case.
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I love sensory perks because I'm loving blind. But this particularly one I've been coveting for quite some time? Put it in a jar in case you end up giving Tomura All For One 6 months down the line.
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oh jay posted:
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My issue is the timeframe. Summer Camp and Kamino happen back-to-back. Either Doctor was lying in his internal monologue and replicating a quirk is really quick, or AFO decided not to keep either copy or original of a quirk his blind rear end admitted to wanting for "reasons"
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If he has search during the Kamino battle, wouldn't he have known Deku and pals were right behind that wall and stopped them from rescuing Bakugou?
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I assume Search requires active effort to use? Also he's never met any of those kids, no reason to seek them out. But yeah, it's not very well-plotted.
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Has search been used at all since it got stolen?
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I like that Endeavor's subconscious calls him out on the flame beard just being another way he's covering up his insecurities and trying to appear strong. Endeavor coming to terms that he's a complete loser by putting out his flame beard so he can focus his strength on his fire arm was a really great moment. I don't think he should be together with his family again after this, but maybe he can work or retire together with Hawks and take it easy.
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Electric Phantasm posted:Has search been used at all since it got stolen? Shigaraki was homing in on Deku with it when he first came out of the tube during the War arc, in the chapter titled "Search". 
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Rhonne posted:If he has search during the Kamino battle, wouldn't he have known Deku and pals were right behind that wall and stopped them from rescuing Bakugou? I believe Search requires you to have seen someone first before you can put them on your 'list' to monitor. I would assume that Ragdoll's 'list' of students was wiped when AFO stole it and he had to build up his own but then that doesn't explain how Shigaraki walked out of the hospital immediately able to track a shitload of people he hadn't seen since getting the quirk. And if you only have to have ever seen someone at some point in your life in order to track them, then I don't see why Horikoshi bothered setting a 100 person limit on Search because you could keep track of way more people by just shuffling them in and out of the 'list'.
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Kyte posted:He gave his original quirk and probably some of the more useful quirks, but I don't think he gave away every quirk he'd stolen. Particularly since he made a point of collecting more to make up for his disabilities. I dunno why they didn’t just go with “the copied quirk doesn’t control multiple quirks at once that good” instead of “the copied quirk isn’t as good at suppressing the ghosts in the quirks”
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TheHan posted:I dunno why they didn’t just go with “the copied quirk doesn’t control multiple quirks at once that good” instead of “the copied quirk isn’t as good at suppressing the ghosts in the quirks” Probably because of OFA's own quirk ghosts which are somewhat autonomous and able to independently offer Deku advice/caution and withhold their power, at least in the Second's case. amigolupus posted:I like that Endeavor's subconscious calls him out on the flame beard just being another way he's covering up his insecurities and trying to appear strong. Endeavor coming to terms that he's a complete loser by putting out his flame beard so he can focus his strength on his fire arm was a really great moment. Yes, I appreciated that detail. I'm not too bothered about the flashback, a 2 page break in the middle of a very action-packed chapter is no big deal, and it looks like this will be the last step before the culmination of Endeavor's character arc.
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Eggplant Squire posted:AFO was fine when he was fighting All Might and being smug in jail but ever since he's gotten out he's the worst type of "haha you thought you had me but I will pull something out of my rear end at the last second!!" type of villain that is supremely boring. Came in here to post basically this in response to that chap
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If AFO just self destructs in an attempt to take out Endeavor and possibly a whole bunch of other heroes (I don't think they're anywhere near Hawks, Tokoyami, and Jirou at the moment) then that's fine, but I'm otherwise real tired of him pulling new poo poo out of his rear end to prolong what isn't even the most interesting fight we could be watching
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I can only think he's talking about his plan to body-jack Shigaraki but if not maybe he shoved his consciousness into a Nomu and thats who's coming after Deku? Endeavor using freaking heat vision is hype as gently caress. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Jun 24, 2022 |
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I liked AFO putting his hand up and getting it heat visioned off.
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Hell yeah, the return of the best villain a gun
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Is he planning on using Eri to re-wind his body to before he got all hosed up by All Might? Otherwise I'm not quite sure why they included that shot there. Also no idea how he plans to execute that plan seeing as he's now a lump of coal
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the entire point of afo's power set is that you can't predict what he will do since he has a treasure trove of stolen quirks from a couple centuries of being alive. like that's the point of any tension with his fights- he's a smart guy with a big bag of tricks. if you think he's just gonna go "oh noooo u have beaten me with your shonen spirit of never giving up, rarrrgh" and not have one last ace up his sleeve you legit have not been reading the manga he even explains this fighting all might when he notes that realistically he only had a couple swings left in him, but he anticipates a few more past that because he is genre savvy
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Fabricated posted:the entire point of afo's power set is that you can't predict what he will do since he has a treasure trove of stolen quirks from a couple centuries of being alive. like that's the point of any tension with his fights- he's a smart guy with a big bag of tricks. if you think he's just gonna go "oh noooo u have beaten me with your shonen spirit of never giving up, rarrrgh" and not have one last ace up his sleeve you legit have not been reading the manga But that creates the opposite of tension where where nothing you do to him matters because because what he can do and is capable of is entirely arbitrary so nothing matters until the author says OK this is the one that does.
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“the whole appeal of this guy is that he’s an asspull machine” I would argue that the opposite is true
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Fabricated posted:the entire point of afo's power set is that you can't predict what he will do since he has a treasure trove of stolen quirks from a couple centuries of being alive. like that's the point of any tension with his fights- he's a smart guy with a big bag of tricks. if you think he's just gonna go "oh noooo u have beaten me with your shonen spirit of never giving up, rarrrgh" and not have one last ace up his sleeve you legit have not been reading the manga Plus, AFO has proven time and time again that the most valuable thing in the world to him is malicious spite. He permanently crippled All Might when he was beaten the first time, he revealed that he spent years cultivating Shigaraki solely to hurt All Might in Kamino, he forced All Might to burn up the last bits of OFA in Kamino to beat him, he put bombs in all of the people working for him in this arc like Lady Nagant on the off chance they changed their minds, he set up the pointless exploding mansion trap in case any of them managed to squeal on him anyway, etc. It would be weird and out of character if he didn't have some kind of horrific "gently caress you, eat poo poo, ha ha" trick prepared for if he lost.
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Oxxidation posted:“the whole appeal of this guy is that he’s an asspull machine” This is cooler than say the last two main big bags of Black Clover who took like five loving standard battle shonen climaxes to kill.
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