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so the "deloris city" (manhatten ?) - you don't put 3 d-bags jogging down a staircase saying "this place is loving wild" because they just had really good sushi on their day off... do you ? so its a holiday sim ?
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Qmass posted:so the "deloris city" (manhatten ?) - you don't put 3 d-bags jogging down a staircase saying "this place is loving wild" because they just had really good sushi on their day off... do you ? so its a holiday sim ? Maybe it's like a Sex In the City World. Something geared toward people who want a lot less violence and death in their adventure. It's not like Second Life and The Sims didn't have huge followings.
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Qmass posted:so the "deloris city" (manhatten ?) - you don't put 3 d-bags jogging down a staircase saying "this place is loving wild" because they just had really good sushi on their day off... do you ? so its a holiday sim ? Lister posted:I can't believe they did a time jump that glosses over the world being turned upside down at the end of S3. And then they also do that thing where a character is in a deep, meaningful relation with a new character and we have no idea why they both love each other since we know nothing about this new person. Give me a loving break.
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Jun 27, 2022 13:34
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A front door that you have to stare at for 30 seconds to gain entry seems like a bad idea.
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Jun 27, 2022 14:25
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That street set outside "Christina"'s place makes me not hate cities quite as much. I agree with the thread's arguments that she's in some metaverse eroge (that "fungible" version of the Park that William is talking about putting online at the start of the episode). I'm assuming she's the "good" half of the Delores/Wyatt split personality. And, I'm calling it, giant fly / spider battle on that enormous tower from the opening credits (the one covered with webbing), just like at the end of Resident Evil 6.
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Jun 27, 2022 15:03
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gently caress it. I said I'd wait for a few episodes to see how it went, but I'm already watching The Boys and Strange New Worlds, so I'm getting my good TV fix. Let's tap that vein of lovely programming once more.
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Ignis posted:He was killed and replaced by Robo Ed Harris, who works for Halebot I had the same question, thanks for answering. I absolutely don't remember that happening but sure, why not? I had to Google IMDB to remember who Halebot was. Not sure if that's a damning statement about my memory, the length of time between seasons, or the quality of the storytelling. Probably all three.
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:I had the same question, thanks for answering. I absolutely don't remember that happening but sure, why not? I had to Google IMDB to remember who Halebot was. Not sure if that's a damning statement about my memory, the length of time between seasons, or the quality of the storytelling. Probably all three. Everyone also keep in mind that S3 was  forgettable to many people because the season literally dropped at the same time as Sars-CoV-2 and so people were a little distracted by the time S3E3 aired because literally the entire world and organized society was collapsing in real time...
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Jun 27, 2022 16:09
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:...who is a Dolores? They are are Dolorii, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihcXKSg2i8s
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Jun 27, 2022 16:29
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If you don't want to watch something as long as an episode of The Simpsons, here's a video that's just the bits about season 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBdn6oAB52I
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Jun 27, 2022 16:35
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Everyone also keep in mind that S3 was
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Jun 27, 2022 16:37
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There better be a giant robot spider episode called Wild Wild Westworld
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My brain just shut off whenever Maeve is on screen doing her poo poo. This season she is a Long Kiss Goodnight assassin, except without all the cursing so where is the fun? I don't know why Dolores get upset when face her NPC character. Look just ask for 20k to rewrite his ending, easy!
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Qmass posted:so the "deloris city" (manhatten ?) - you don't put 3 d-bags jogging down a staircase saying "this place is loving wild" because they just had really good sushi on their day off... do you ? so its a holiday sim ? That was my thought. Also the guy talking about the tower looming over them. We know the Hosts don't see things they're not supposed to. And the street lights along Dolores' street also looked a lot like the tower we saw in the intro. But maybe it's all too obvious for a show designed around making everything as hard to understand as possible.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:If you don't want to watch something as long as an episode of The Simpsons, here's a video that's just the bits about season 3 Oh my god. I had forgotten 95% of all of that. That season was such a mess. Even a recap didn't help it all make sense.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The world wasn't turned upside down though, that's explicitly stated in this very episode. Which aligns perfectly with the message of the last season, where the super computer is just a stand-in for the systems of control we already have - and which would still be there without it. Individual people might have had their world turned upside down, but the system just reasserted itself after that little hiccup. Yes, the episode said the world wasn't turned upside down. That's the problem, since it could have just as easily said the opposite. The setup at the end of S3 is glossed over with a time jump and them telling us what happened instead of letting it play out.
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Lister posted:Yes, the episode said the world wasn't turned upside down. That's the problem, since it could have just as easily said the opposite. The setup at the end of S3 is glossed over with a time jump and them telling us what happened instead of letting it play out. TBH I assumed they were deliberately withholding information so that Delores/Christina could play out without entirely tipping their hand. I spent a lot of the premier wondering whether Caleb might also be locked away in some sort of simulation, because of the way the characters around him talk about his PTSD and his conception of reality (and because this is Westworld), but that ending seems to have put paid to that angle.
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I thought a few time the dialogue was crap during the episode. . The set design and overworld building look great. That's one reason I watch WW half heartedly but not Raised by Wolves S2. I like Dolores's "female mage" outfit.
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Jun 27, 2022 18:56
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Lister posted:Yes, the episode said the world wasn't turned upside down. That's the problem, since it could have just as easily said the opposite. The setup at the end of S3 is glossed over with a time jump and them telling us what happened instead of letting it play out.
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Not gonna lie: When I saw Maeve driving down the mountain in that pickup for the briefest flicker I hoped we could abandon the convoluted host plotline altogether. That we could have this be the start of Transmetropolitan: The Simulation with Thandiwe Newton as Spider Jerusalem. But then the show just kept going and that made me sad.
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Just going into Bladerunner territory, where hosts are illegal but anybody rich still has them, and half the rich are hosts
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I think it was in this thread that I offered up a prediction when Season 1 was wrapping up that our scrappy band of hosts would escape the park only to find out humanity died out a long time ago. That the visitors to the park were just hosts themselves and just like the hosts in the park they were content to not think too hard about the nature of their reality. I'm pretty sure I recall that someone tsktsk'ed me for being a downer, that humanity was hopelessly doomed.... Man, 2016 was such a optimistic time!
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Everyone also keep in mind that S3 was Also because it was really bad and boring. I watched lots of things during that same period of time that I remember perfectly well. Season 3 of Westworld, not so much.
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Real "Lost" vibes this season so far. I don't have any confidence they're going to pay off any of this.
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rich thick and creamy posted:I think it was in this thread that I offered up a prediction when Season 1 was wrapping up that our scrappy band of hosts would escape the park only to find out humanity died out a long time ago. I never thought this specific thing, but I do (still) suspect that the show will end on a similar note to Spielberg's A.I., where humanity dies out on its own, but the intellectual and cultural legacy of humanity is preserved in these humanoid robots first built as slaves and distractions for wealthy assholes. Multiple characters had/have the explicit goal of duplicating a real human consciousness, and there's all the Marxist subtext to S3 where the robot-slaves have a similar experience to (and common cause with) working class humans living as algorithm-slaves in "the real world." My guess is that these ideas persist, and the point becomes that the robots represent a utopian alternative to the current hell-world run by the wealthy technocracy. In centuries or millennia, all "real" humans will be gone, but a reasonable simulation of them will still be around in something similar to The Valley Beyond. Which could also be anywhere, including underground or on other planets or just floating in space.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:If you don't want to watch something as long as an episode of The Simpsons, here's a video that's just the bits about season 3
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Banning worker robot (but humanoid robot surprise!) is such a old scifi trope my brain just ignored it when I saw it on screen. We got it in Foundation, Bladerunner and I think Picard which is a stupider show than WW.
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Elysiumworld, where everyone is just an incorporeal orb plugged into a massive space station living in VR.
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I did enjoy s3's attempt to portray dolares as the savoir of humanity after two seasons of her murdering every human she saw
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Jun 27, 2022 23:07
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any story can be made mysterious and dynamic simply by never editing it together cohesively.
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Count me in as one of the people who didn't really remember what happened in S3. The first episode of S4 felt aggressively mediocre. I'm ok with mystery and confusion in storylines as long as there is sufficient payoff, which I don't know if they can really pull off here.
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Oh wait I forgot the worst thing in the whole snow:  was that fake-rear end fire when Maeve burned the cabin down? 
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Oh wait I forgot the worst thing in the whole snow: Thankfully i’m not the only person who caught that. That was some mid-90’s rear end CGI fire.
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Gangster world looks dope but itl probably get 20 min in episode 7.
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I get the hate people have for season 3 but I personally have been sold on the whole story since the first 10 minutes of the first episode so I was glad to see season 4 was coming out. Pretty strong feeling in my gut that there will be aspect ratio widening and the black bars that mean simulation will show up.
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I’m just assuming that the flies are roboflies full of nanomachines or something, and they make a person susceptible to the orders of Ed Harris and his host pals.
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The twist is that the robits and a ruling class of collaborators won the war. Not Dolores is in a "docile people" instance of Worldworld. Maeve and
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Oh wait I forgot the worst thing in the whole snow: Oh my god I meant to bring this up It was so loving bad
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Everyone also keep in mind that S3 was Better Call Saul was playing at the same time and was easier to remember. Season 3 of Westworld had a whole bunch of things that happened without obvious cause and effect connection making it so it’s harder to recall the overall story.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:The twist is that the robits and a ruling class of collaborators won the war. Not Dolores is in a "docile people" instance of Worldworld. Maeve and So basically, The Matrix?
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