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Takes No Damage posted:Necroquoting to ask if this is meant to imply that the Cos' was trying to knock out Solder Boy for some after hours shenanigans but he metabolized it as just being a heavy pour? Very slight I think they're keeping it ambiguous just how much of an awful person Soldier Boy is. He may have meant it that way, or he may have known that Cosby was knocking out women to rape them and doesn't care.
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Jun 28, 2022 07:42
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The Last Call posted:He's said this about other things before. i have no issue believing he had an idea around "bad superheroes," that's a pretty straightforward common idea. most popular things aren't some crazy weirdo idea only the creator could possibly have dreamt up, they're usually interesting ideas lots of people have thought about and would be excited to see realized. ideas are easy to have anyway, who isn't constantly thinking of stuff they'd be interested in seeing, making, or imagining more about?
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Jun 28, 2022 08:08
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They keep having scenes of Starlight powering up and characters chastising her for how weak she is, I'd love to see a payoff where she hasn't been going all out this whole time because she doesn't want to hurt people and next time someone says that to her she melts their head off. Maybe they have a confrontation in a nuclear power plant and she powers the gently caress up or something. The season trailer has soldier boy blocking one of her blasts with his shield, probably in next episode. I'd love to see her get a good lick in.
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Jun 28, 2022 08:20
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BlackIronHeart posted:Ashley would have control over her hair, like, using it as a prehensile limb and poo poo if she was a supe. Supe Ashley is Bayonetta?
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Jun 28, 2022 08:24
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She tears the clumps out and they turn into Tribbles that attack her foes.
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Jun 28, 2022 08:42
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Khanstant posted:Hughie being unsatisfied with A-Train's finally sincere apology was a good Hughie moment, caught him off guard and wasn't what he was really hoping to hear. It was a great scene for A-Train as well. He was the way he was because he was completely insulated and it made him self-centred. He didn't apologise to Hughie before because he didn't see the need - these things happen. He co-opted the Black Rights movement because it looked good for his image. Now he's felt the pain of having his brother crippled by a supe because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, he's seen how completely insincere corporate-mandated apologies come across to the people they're given to, and through this he's finally able to empathise with someone. I don't necessarily see A-Train walking the Damascus road, but he's no longer irredeemable. I love the way they false sold it at the start to look like A-Train was going to be a dick again, too. That was good TV and it set up Hughie's response perfectly.
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Jun 28, 2022 10:32
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Jedit posted:It was a great scene for A-Train as well. He was the way he was because he was completely insulated and it made him self-centred. He didn't apologise to Hughie before because he didn't see the need - these things happen. He co-opted the Black Rights movement because it looked good for his image. Now he's felt the pain of having his brother crippled by a supe because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, he's seen how completely insincere corporate-mandated apologies come across to the people they're given to, and through this he's finally able to empathise with someone. I don't necessarily see A-Train walking the Damascus road, but he's no longer irredeemable. I don't know what they could do with him now that wouldn't be.. boring? We don't need to see his brother struggling with not being able to walk, the threat of Blue Hawk in that particular community has been dealt with, etc. I agree that they did a great job with the dialogue in that apology scene to make it seem like he was unrepentant.
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Jun 28, 2022 11:11
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idk "argh someone i care about got hurt... now i understand the pain the murders i did caused!" is not a great storyline
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Jun 28, 2022 11:26
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If he were a mere human, sure. But as a supe who has been protected by an organisation for however long, and has never had to actually face any real consequences, it's more resonant I think. I thought it was a pretty big moment for his character.
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Jun 28, 2022 11:42
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Eau de MacGowan posted:idk "argh someone i care about got hurt... now i understand the pain the murders i did caused!" is not a great storyline A-Train didn't murder Robin, he killed her by accident through carelessness. And it's not like he didn't understand that he'd hurt Hughie - he just didn't accept responsibility for it. He tried to blame the victim and Vought protected him, just like they always have done for supes. They protected him, and they told him that it wasn't his fault because they can't have their product developing doubt in himself. Now he has accepted responsibility, and that's why he's a better character. Note also that he's not going to show any more guilt over murdering Popclaw any time soon. He knows what he did there and why.
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Jun 28, 2022 11:58
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Durzel posted:If he were a mere human, sure. But as a supe who has been protected by an organisation for however long, and has never had to actually face any real consequences, it's more resonant I think. I thought it was a pretty big moment for his character. Yeah its also why 'sincerely apologises, then willingly suffers real consequences in order to save more innocents from Blue Hawk' is the natural end to his arc. Wouldn't be surprised if he isn't dead, but walking back the consequences for him would also be the show reversing itself.
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Jun 28, 2022 12:55
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Alchenar posted:Yeah its also why 'sincerely apologises, then willingly suffers real consequences in order to save more innocents from Blue Hawk' is the natural end to his arc. Disagree. It's not walking back consequences if A-Train survives, it's setting up him using his powers one last time for something important in the knowledge that it will probably kill him. It wouldn't even be wholly unsatisfactory if he doesn't die then - although he probably will - as long as he has to accept that he's finished as a speedster. E: saving Hughie from Homelander after the temp V wears off mid-fight would be a little clichéd, but it'd be perfect symmetry. Jedit fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Jun 28, 2022 |
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Jun 28, 2022 13:10
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https://twitter.com/therealKripke/status/1541642404880449536?t=SlyoBV7XxgaJUeuv-lYtYA&s=19
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Jun 28, 2022 13:14
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the shield is so idiots will understand that he's this universes captain america, don't think there's much more to it than that tbh.
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Jun 28, 2022 13:30
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The first thing he does when Homelander flies at him is drop the shield: he has it when they're squaring off and then it's gone when they start going at it.
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Jun 28, 2022 13:51
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Eau de MacGowan posted:idk "argh someone i care about got hurt... now i understand the pain the murders i did caused!" is not a great storyline Well that's why it's good if he dies, he's been too lovely to deserve a real redemption arc so keeping him around seems like it would just be treading water
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Jun 28, 2022 14:21
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Tender Bender posted:Well that's why it's good if he dies, he's been too lovely to deserve a real redemption arc so keeping him around seems like it would just be treading water Yeah after Supersonic I really lost all sympathy s3 was building up for him.
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Jun 28, 2022 14:58
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No Dignity posted:Someone also should have given him the nerd logic case though MM knows fighting soldier boy is suicide but it’s the principle of the thing.
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Jun 28, 2022 15:06
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Habibi posted:. It seems extra dense / heavy / sturdy, so maybe it also made punching through a tank easier. It's made of Voughtanium, of course it's extra dense
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Jun 28, 2022 15:13
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boo_radley posted:It's made of Voughtanium, of course it's extra dense The second densest material in the world, after Deepium.
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Jun 28, 2022 15:51
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Tender Bender posted:Well that's why it's good if he dies, he's been too lovely to deserve a real redemption arc so keeping him around seems like it would just be treading water Yeah, he and Deep kind of occupy very similar roles as washed up members of the Seven who are kept around to flirt with redemption but also get tormented by Homelander. The Deep is much more entertaining in that purgatory. I don't object to A-train surviving because I do like the character, but he needs something different to do.
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Jun 28, 2022 16:09
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Jedit posted:It's not walking back consequences if A-Train survives, it's setting up him using his powers one last time for something important in the knowledge that it will probably kill him. Literally what he did in the last episode.
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Jun 28, 2022 16:27
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Yeah, bets they can do with A Train now is have him... do the exact same thing? idk what that could add, if he helps beat up homelander or whatever then dies, this is a far more appropriate moment for his death to be meaningful to his arc.
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Jun 28, 2022 16:33
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Just have him be permanently crippled with crutches so he can just retire
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Jun 28, 2022 16:41
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A-train mute and wheelchair bound stuck communicating via little bell
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Jun 28, 2022 17:00
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It's A-train who survives apparent on-screen death and returns in a Darth Vader suit
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Jun 28, 2022 17:05
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I went back and rewatched a couple of episodes from earlier in the season, and in a show with great character moments having Maeve jump Butcher right after he (sincerely, imo) talks about wiping out all supes is perfect. Nothing underscores her relentless self loathing quite like being attracted to Butcher.
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Jun 28, 2022 17:10
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Literally what he did in the last episode. A-Train knew he had problems, but he's had this thing for a while about resting up, recharging and healing. Now he knows he's not going to heal. That's the point where the last stand works in drama - when you can't lie to yourself any more that there's hope. It's a significant difference.
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Jun 28, 2022 17:11
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Jedit posted:A-Train knew he had problems, but he's had this thing for a while about resting up, recharging and healing. Now he knows he's not going to heal. That's the point where the last stand works in drama - when you can't lie to yourself any more that there's hope. It's a significant difference.
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Jun 28, 2022 17:14
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Eau de MacGowan posted:idk "argh someone i care about got hurt... now i understand the pain the murders i did caused!" is not a great storyline This kind of thing happens to a million people every week. It's completely realistic and believable. Most people are selfish pieces of poo poo who trap themselves in a bubble and only when their personal bubble is popped do they start to care
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Jun 28, 2022 17:18
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BurritoJustice posted:They keep having scenes of Starlight powering up and characters chastising her for how weak she is, I'd love to see a payoff where she hasn't been going all out this whole time because she doesn't want to hurt people and next time someone says that to her she melts their head off. Maybe they have a confrontation in a nuclear power plant and she powers the gently caress up or something. I'd really like to see what she can do. In the comics, I think she could fly and make little Jubilee sparkles? In the end, she flees Homelander and then isn't seen until it's all over. Her character got treated really lovely to make points about others, especially Hughie, so I'm looking forward to her getting to do more.
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Jun 28, 2022 17:32
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/therealKripke/status/1541642404880449536?t=SlyoBV7XxgaJUeuv-lYtYA&s=19 loving beautiful.
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Jun 28, 2022 17:44
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https://twitter.com/ArtoriasTK/status/1541685613434441729?t=WsLBjpU0y_kPZsfJDhCpVA&s=19
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Jun 28, 2022 17:47
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/therealKripke/status/1541642404880449536?t=SlyoBV7XxgaJUeuv-lYtYA&s=19 Kojima retweeted that lmao
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Jun 28, 2022 18:00
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The only other character development (or story beat) I can see for A-Train is for him to do a big press conference (or possibly just an informal stream like Starlight) where he basically goes ACAB, then Vought drops him like a bag of dirt and maybe Homelander kills him for making the company look bad.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:01
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Jedit posted:A-Train knew he had problems, but he's had this thing for a while about resting up, recharging and healing. Now he knows he's not going to heal. That's the point where the last stand works in drama - when you can't lie to yourself any more that there's hope. It's a significant difference. The significance of the scene is that in that moment he sacrificed himself for his local community. He did something completely selfless, and brave. Surviving that through the magical Vought air ambulance service is possible, but I think it would be a poor direction for the show to take, even if I would have liked to have seen A-Train carry on in the show.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:04
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Riatsala posted:I went back and rewatched a couple of episodes from earlier in the season, and in a show with great character moments having Maeve jump Butcher right after he (sincerely, imo) talks about wiping out all supes is perfect. Nothing underscores her relentless self loathing quite like being attracted to Butcher. Yeah, I said at the time she jumps him right after he says exactly what she said in the previous episode: that she deserves to die. It's hosed up but it's a good character moment for her. massive spider posted:MM knows fighting soldier boy is suicide but it’s the principle of the thing. I actually didn't think him trying to suicide multiple times against Soldier Boy fit that well with his character. I mean, he's got a daughter. And his whole grievance is that a supe killing his family hosed him up. So I'm not sure he'd be that keen to go hand-to-hand and get splattered and gently caress up his daughter's life like his was. Felt more like a Butcher move.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:18
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‘The Boys’ Showrunner and Stars Spill ‘Herogasm’ Secrets, Including the One Note Amazon Gave on Superhero Orgy Huh, the Octopus was practical, not VFX. mcbexx fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jun 28, 2022 |
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Jun 28, 2022 18:31
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Durzel posted:The significance of the scene is that in that moment he sacrificed himself for his local community. He did something completely selfless, and brave. Surviving that through the magical Vought air ambulance service is possible, but I think it would be a poor direction for the show to take, even if I would have liked to have seen A-Train carry on in the show. I don't know if I'd call it selfless. He did it out of revenge and anger over his brother, the only person besides Popclaw he's been shown to care about it. Still it's as much redemption as someone like him is going to get, and it was a great scene.
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This is The Boys, nobody is actually dead until they're shown as meat chunks.
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