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Ham Equity posted:Continue to maintain that consumerism is the state religion of America: Jesus christ it's so pathetic
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Ham Equity posted:Continue to maintain that consumerism is the state religion of America: rofl ps: use (your area code) Jenny Number. i do it often enough that I have accidentally given it out as my own number for legitimate stuff before.
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Jun 30, 2022 00:54
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mawarannahr posted:rofl that’s genius
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People have been using the Tommy Tutone method for 20+ years. I used it for my first kroger card back in 2000.
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FFT posted:a Quantum Leap remake/reboot/restart is coming, and apparently there are no plans for Scott Bakula to be in it
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Jun 30, 2022 01:51
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lol corrupting the sanctity of corporate data as if that isn’t blessed
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Jun 30, 2022 06:34
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is the consumer data generated by loyalty cards even demonstrably useful or is it on the same level of corporate haruspicy and tasseography as advertising?
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Jun 30, 2022 12:22
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Renaissance Robot posted:is the consumer data generated by loyalty cards even demonstrably useful or is it on the same level of corporate haruspicy and tasseography as advertising? Let's be honest here, you just wanted to work those words into the conversation. And I respect that, they're good words
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Renaissance Robot posted:is the consumer data generated by loyalty cards even demonstrably useful or is it on the same level of corporate haruspicy and tasseography as advertising? It seems the one thing I get to be a Professional Expert about in life at this point is cash register and related technology so I can tell you that no, it is not any more useful than that. Stores really really want it to be though, cuz they're desperate to find the thing that will let them compete with amazon. They're glomping real hard on a bunch of different ways to bring the horrors of online shopping into the real world, like real life targeted advertising based on your physical shopping interactions. I think i've mentioned this example before but I went to a presentation by one of these companies and the scenario they gave was the store panopticon notices a person picking up [product], looking at it ever so longingly, then putting it back, only to later during checkout have the person running the cash register say (after getting the exact script as a prompt on their register, because you don't trust your minimum wage peons to improvise do you??) "By the way Mr. $ErrorNameNotFound$, we have a secret sale on [product] today!"
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Shame Boy posted:It seems the one thing I get to be a Professional Expert about in life at this point is cash register and related technology so I can tell you that no, it is not any more useful than that. Stores really really want it to be though, cuz they're desperate to find the thing that will let them compete with amazon. They're glomping real hard on a bunch of different ways to bring the horrors of online shopping into the real world, like real life targeted advertising based on your physical shopping interactions. I think i've mentioned this example before but I went to a presentation by one of these companies and the scenario they gave was the store panopticon notices a person picking up [product], looking at it ever so longingly, then putting it back, only to later during checkout have the person running the cash register say (after getting the exact script as a prompt on their register, because you don't trust your minimum wage peons to improvise do you??) "By the way Mr. $ErrorNameNotFound$, we have a secret sale on [product] today!"
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Jun 30, 2022 15:17
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Renaissance Robot posted:is the consumer data generated by loyalty cards even demonstrably useful or is it on the same level of corporate haruspicy and tasseography as advertising? More like copromancy.
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Jun 30, 2022 15:19
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Renaissance Robot posted:is the consumer data generated by loyalty cards even demonstrably useful or is it on the same level of corporate haruspicy and tasseography as advertising? There's some decent broad strokes you can pull out of it; you can usually infer consumers life status (single, married, expecting child); if they have pets; do they have large amounts of disposable income; are they brand loyal/sensitive to coupons But it's then only ever used for more advertising, so on second thought no, none of it is useful.
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Jun 30, 2022 15:27
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Whenever I stare a long time at a product Im usually reading ingredients/comparing it to similar ones. Is their AI going to be able to tell the difference between longing and scrutiny? "we have a secret sale on [inferior/overpriced product]" 
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Jun 30, 2022 15:35
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Would you like two "thing you were laughing so hard at you called your wife to tell her the absolute bullshit we seem to dare to call a product" for the price of one?
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lol scotus just dismantled all regulatory bodies. get ready for tons of new material for this thread. also lead paint is back on the menu, boys!
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Bismuth posted:Whenever I stare a long time at a product Im usually reading ingredients/comparing it to similar ones. Is their AI going to be able to tell the difference between longing and scrutiny? Here's the big secret: None of it actually works even in the ideal cases they're selling it for, let alone edge cases they didn't think of 
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Retromancer posted:lol scotus just dismantled all regulatory bodies. get ready for tons of new material for this thread. also lead paint is back on the menu, boys! I just looked up the opinion and it's literally "if a regulatory body wants to do something that might make the economy a little sad, they are not allowed to and congress has to do it instead" which lmao
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Bismuth posted:Whenever I stare a long time at a product Im usually reading ingredients/comparing it to similar ones. Is their AI going to be able to tell the difference between longing and scrutiny? idk if you stare at a product or multiple versions of a product, you're likely going to buy one anyway at some point. all they have to do is show you one ad and then they can claim that that ad was the direct cause of your purchase and bilk some more money. also they're getting paid for the ads from every manufacturer (lol there are only like 2 or 3 competing congolomerates at this point anyway), so if you're looking at "cereal" you'll get ads for kelloggs and general mills, and then you'll buy one of those two brands because those are the only options, and look at that, i guess the advertising works and now kellogs and gm have to spend more on ads to drive growth or whatever
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Renaissance Robot posted:is the consumer data generated by loyalty cards even demonstrably useful or is it on the same level of corporate haruspicy and tasseography as advertising? Capitalism.png: On the same level of corporate haruspicy and tasseography as advertising.
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Shame Boy posted:I just looked up the opinion and it's literally "if a regulatory body wants to do something that might make the economy a little sad, they are not allowed to and congress has to do it instead" which lmao This is how we're going to get decriminalization when someone smart gets charged with possession of controlled substances and they make a federal case by arguing that the FDA has no power to define controlled substances.
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Related to that article, look forward to this in a little while:quote:The Supreme Court on Thursday agreed to hear a case that could dramatically change how federal elections are conducted. At issue is a legal theory that would give state legislatures unfettered authority to set the rules for federal elections, free of supervision by the state courts and state constitutions.
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Retromancer posted:This is how we're going to get decriminalization when someone smart gets charged with possession of controlled substances and they make a federal case by arguing that the FDA has no power to define controlled substances. Unfortunately "controlled substance" actually is defined by congress for I think basically all the fun ones
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Powerless to help you, not hurt you.
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Ahahahahquote:In its most extreme form, the independent state legislature theory was invoked — unsuccessfully — by Trump advocates in an effort to sidestep the legitimate outcome of the 2020 election. In Arizona, for instance, some Trump supporters used the theory in calling for the decertification of the state's electors. Among those seeking decertification was Virginia Thomas, the wife of Justice Clarence Thomas. We're all going to die
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Shame Boy posted:Related to that article, look forward to this in a little while: lol
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People always say "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" but the inevitable collapse and extinction of humanity seems like a pretty permanent problem.
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Retromancer posted:People always say "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" but the inevitable collapse and extinction of humanity seems like a pretty permanent problem. Also, permanent solutions can be pretty good (?)
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Jun 30, 2022 16:30
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My "1 hour euthanasia, or your money back!" service is causing lots of anxiety that can be solved by my 1 hour euthanasia service. Or your money back!
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Ham Equity posted:Continue to maintain that consumerism is the state religion of America: L
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Retromancer posted:People always say "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" but the inevitable collapse and extinction of humanity seems like a pretty permanent problem. humanity isn't going to collapse just because the us becomes an oppressive one-party theocracy, dude
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Weatherman posted:humanity isn't going to collapse just because the us becomes an oppressive one-party theocracy, dude
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How's the climate doing? Good I hope. Are we up to 3C yet?
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Ham Equity posted:Have you looked at climate science lately? yes it doesn’t approach human extinction levels lol
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tokin opposition posted:How's the climate doing? Good I hope. Are we up to 3C yet? Working hard, thank you!
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itll just be hundreds of millions dead. current count is just 1 million or so cuz the syrian war is basically 70% the megadrought and crop failure they had, so just 100x worse than current
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Ham Equity posted:Have you looked at climate science lately? no because climate change is fake
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Ham Equity posted:Have you looked at climate science lately? yes?
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Weatherman posted:yes? post/name combo too bad about your ugly rear end bird avatar
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According to the World Bank, climate change is going to cause a 70% reduction in agricultural output, but 90% of economic activity takes place indoors, so 93% of the economy will be fine.
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Chamale posted:According to the World Bank, climate change is going to cause a 70% reduction in agricultural output, have you considered all the land that will become farmable soon??? buy now!!! i'll be growing avocados in minnesota!!
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