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a sexual elk
May 16, 2007

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chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

it's really cool how timmy went on a holodeck and found out about 21st century advertising and loves to drop slogans and product integrations as he goes about his day

SPOCK: The creatures are breaching our network, Captain!
TIMMY: You knooooooow, Captain, that wouldn't happen if you had NordVPN. Did you know they were invented in the 21st century? Back then, you could use the coupon code TIMMY to get 50% off their first three years!
SPOCK: Of course, network isolation. That would logically prevent them from accessing our systems. I'll install an isolator right now.
TIMMY: That's the power of maths! Nordvpn dot com! Coupon code TIMMY.

Nice Tuckpointing!
Nov 3, 2005

Next week on a very special episode of Timmy and Friends: Strange New Worlds, the crew confront Timmy after he develops an addiction to alcohol brought on by Timmy adorably stumbling upon a crate of Romulan ale when he was adventurin' in Cargo Bay 2. Also, the episode retcons why Romulan ale became illegal in the Federation.

Brought to you by Budweiser Classic.

1000 Sweaty Rikers
Oct 13, 2005

latest ep of ST:SNW is drat good

Lascivious Sloth
Apr 26, 2008

by sebmojo
New SNW was good.


Cool alien/aliens vibes. Fun action scenes.
I hated they killed off the andorian he was cool, but its good they can kill off characters so everyone doesn't have plot armour. I still don't understand what he died for..
Hope they do that more often and rotate through new faces and characters and keep the plot fresh.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Dad Tane

The General
Mar 4, 2007


Lascivious Sloth posted:

New SNW was good.


Cool alien/aliens vibes. Fun action scenes.
I hated they killed off the andorian he was cool, but its good they can kill off characters so everyone doesn't have plot armour. I still don't understand what he died for..
Hope they do that more often and rotate through new faces and characters and keep the plot fresh.


He'd rather die in a place that reminds him of home over dying in sickbay.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
New SNW was indeed quite good

loving RIP Hemmer though. That character was great. I wonder if the actor wanted out or something

The General
Mar 4, 2007


PostNouveau posted:

New SNW was indeed quite good

loving RIP Hemmer though. That character was great. I wonder if the actor wanted out or something

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-bruce-horak-season-lt-hemmer-1235173020/ posted:

Bruce Horak was not taken by surprise. He knew how it was going to end for Lt. Hemmer.

The Star Trek: Strange New Worlds actor was informed shortly after being cast as the Enterprise’s chief engineer for the first season of the Paramount+ series how his character’s arc would conclude.

Also I did not know this, but the actor himself is also blind.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
I have not seen but clips of it but I am concluding SNW is in fact good and I should watch it.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


It is, and you should. Do it.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
to be honest i think it might have the largest cast of a trek show where i like basically every single character

Lascivious Sloth
Apr 26, 2008

by sebmojo
It is now clear the order currently is:

Lower decks > prodigy / SNW ............ > Disc / Picard

Honestly Discovery and Picard should end, these others are amazing, but SNW should become the live action standard or something else but a new concept

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
prodigy is a fine kids cartoon but snw is better imo. and i still like a good bit of discovery, whereas all of picard is hot garbage. i can't imagine discovery lasting another year or two. i'm still waiting for a far-future starfleet timeship series



anyway i like nurse chapel a lot. i like that they gave her a research phd in genetics or whatever so she still gets to be a kick-rear end expert.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Lascivious Sloth posted:

It is now clear the order currently is:

Lower decks > prodigy / SNW ............ > Disc / Picard

Honestly Discovery and Picard should end, these others are amazing, but SNW should become the live action standard or something else but a new concept

Well at least Picard is. Still no word as far as I can tell on what's going to replace it. I'm assuming they're indecisive about it at the moment as if they're looking for it to replace Picard in a year and half time(?) they'd want to be going into preproduction now'ish you'd think.

Really hoping they don't actually do the section 31 thing. Honestly Michael Dorn's idea of Wolf being an elderly states-person trying to change the Klingon empire as it's collapsing due to the shittiness of government, and it's self destructive warrior ideology actually sounds like it could make for an interesting 2 season thing. Was never the biggest fan of a lot of the Klingon plot lines -although DS9 had some good ones near the end. Gowron :h:.- but that actually sounds like a really interesting premises.

Also would 100% watch a Star Trek:Law and order, or Star Trek: E.R.

mediaphage posted:

prodigy is a fine kids cartoon but snw is better imo.

Yeah pretty much. Prodigy does what it does very well -having Janeway be the captain was a brilliant idea, Kate Mulgrew's awesome-, and always good to see Kids tv that doesn't suck, but can't get into it, so SNW is way better IMO. Really like Lower decks but I'd put SNW above that as well. But yeah who cares about the exact order, both are great in their very different ways.

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Jul 1, 2022

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
SNW has not had a bad episode yet and it sucks that we don't get 22 episodes of it. However they're already working on Season 2 so thats exciting.

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."
I think the next seasons of Picard and Discovery are both the last ones, so maybe they'll hit us with some new poo poo.

Comedy option, Khan's Soul Train, or How You Keep Thirty Six Extremely Sweaty and Stylish Augments Entertained on a Desert Planet for 20 Years

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
Late night skinemax anthology series following a hitchhiking Ferengi across space and time

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Gatts posted:

Late night skinemax anthology series following a hitchhiking Ferengi across space and time

Skinemax you say?

:nws:


Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
Latest episode continuing the stupid flashlights


Ed: maaaan they couldn't have introduced another nameless person?

Regular Wario fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Jul 1, 2022

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

i am also saddened by the loss of my favourite character, what a cool dude. i guess they gotta make room for... toddler scotty? how old is he going to be at this point, no where near being engineering chief, right? like he looked pretty young in tos iirc

Endless Trash
Aug 12, 2007


He was deeply in love with the Enterprise when TOS began so he should be there soon, if he isn’t already

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

mediaphage posted:

to be honest i think it might have the largest cast of a trek show where i like basically every single character

i dislike chapel because i think they are writing her to be too funny and confident in every scene, it feels like an overcompensation for how they are taking a nothing character from the original and making her cool and are very, very proud of themselves. she's a bit obnoxious, and gets a lot of screentime compared to most of the cast, making m'benga redundant at times.

the rest i either like or have vaguely positive feelings towards.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Glad they gave Hemmer a solid episode to shine the week before. He had potential. It means the writers can come up with interesting characters but this was a good one that could’ve had some mileage.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

roomtone posted:

i dislike chapel because i think they are writing her to be too funny and confident in every scene, it feels like an overcompensation for how they are taking a nothing character from the original and making her cool and are very, very proud of themselves. she's a bit obnoxious, and gets a lot of screentime compared to most of the cast, making m'benga redundant at times.

the rest i either like or have vaguely positive feelings towards.

:agreed:
Also, Lt. Kirk was being a dick this episode. Pike should’ve shut that down like a commanding officer not a distant father.

Endless Trash
Aug 12, 2007


Automatic Slim posted:

:agreed:
Also, Lt. Kirk was being a dick this episode. Pike should’ve shut that down like a commanding officer not a distant father.

That Sam Kirk panics during an alien invasion scenario totally tracks though

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

check the dopamine levels on all these chapel haters

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

yeah, chapel is the best one, now. exactly what you want from a civilian specialist on a starfleet ship. everyone else on the ship is having some kind of personal crisis, the drama of almost all of them being made totally irrelevant by their prewritten TOS destinies that we all known about, but Chapel can mostly just do her thang, which is pretty much whatever the gently caress she likes, because she's smart enough to be on the Enterprise and antisocial/establishment enough not join Starfleet.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Speaking of aliens, the blue guy Buckley was really impressive. They need more aliens in the crew now that it's possible on a TV budget, a la Arex from TAS.

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy
I don't think it's budget holding them back from having a lot of aliens in the cast. DS9's cast was mostly aliens, and it's the least popular show with casual audiences. I think the amount of weird looking people on every week had something to do with it. People turn off when something looks like that, although having one or two weird aliens is at a level where that can be a charasmatic novelty.

Obviously there were other factors in why DS9 hasn't had the casual staying power of other shows, but there can be more than one reason.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

appropriatemetaphor posted:

check the dopamine levels on all these chapel haters

Not hate, just a critique.

chaosbreather posted:

yeah, chapel is the best one, now. exactly what you want from a civilian specialist on a starfleet ship. everyone else on the ship is having some kind of personal crisis, the drama of almost all of them being made totally irrelevant by their prewritten TOS destinies that we all known about, but Chapel can mostly just do her thang, which is pretty much whatever the gently caress she likes, because she's smart enough to be on the Enterprise and antisocial/establishment enough not join Starfleet.

That’s why I dislike having so many TOS characters in SNW. Every backstory doesn’t have to be filled. New characters can mean new directions like… Hemmer 🫤. Why does Chapel and Uhura and Sam Kirk (?) have to be hanging at the same place they’ll be hanging out 30 years later?

And I like the casting.


At least we got a heroic red shirt death in this episode.

Nice Tuckpointing!
Nov 3, 2005

The Marvel universe has ruined my reaction to dramatic character moments.

"Naw, he's fine. They'll save him at the last minute. See! He likes the cold but the Gorn don't, so he'll outlast them. Nevermind the chest-bursting bit... He'll engineer a fix. Right? Right..."

And so on and so on.

Anyway, this episode was a nice way to have a one-off plot that carries consequences. If this were Picard it would have been four episodes, including one that was completely in La'an's flashback.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

Hollismason posted:

SNW has not had a bad episode yet and it sucks that we don't get 22 episodes of it. However they're already working on Season 2 so thats exciting.

Lol they’re almost done with Season 2. They started filming it months before the series even premiered. They are stupidly ahead of schedule for Modern Trek.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

HD DAD posted:

Lol they’re almost done with Season 2. They started filming it months before the series even premiered. They are stupidly ahead of schedule for Modern Trek.

So how does series renewal work now?
In ancient times, networks would order new seasons when ratings (and ad revenue) said it would be profitable. Discovery, SNW, etc. get renewed right at premiere, it seems.

Do studio heads have such faith in their unaired shows or is something else going on?

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

Automatic Slim posted:

So how does series renewal work now?
In ancient times, networks would order new seasons when ratings (and ad revenue) said it would be profitable. Discovery, SNW, etc. get renewed right at premiere, it seems.

Do studio heads have such faith in their unaired shows or is something else going on?

I think it’s super variable these days, but I think it could be a few things.

1. They’re doing the thing where they order one 20 episode “season”, and that’s split into two over the course of a few years.

2. Kurtzman has been given a budget with carte blanche, and he feels super confident in the show.

3. Paramount were very impressed with what they saw internally for S1, and gave the go-ahead for another on its own merit.

Keep in mind this show partially exists because of fan outcry, so they knew there was at least going to be a built-in audience. I’m sure that played into it as well.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

HD DAD posted:

I think it’s super variable these days, but I think it could be a few things.

1. They’re doing the thing where they order one 20 episode “season”, and that’s split into two over the course of a few years.

2. Kurtzman has been given a budget with carte blanche, and he feels super confident in the show.

3. Paramount were very impressed with what they saw internally for S1, and gave the go-ahead for another on its own merit.

Keep in mind this show partially exists because of fan outcry, so they knew there was at least going to be a built-in audience. I’m sure that played into it as well.

That makes a lot of sense, especially the “split season” order.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

chaosbreather posted:

yeah, chapel is the best one, now. exactly what you want from a civilian specialist on a starfleet ship. everyone else on the ship is having some kind of personal crisis, the drama of almost all of them being made totally irrelevant by their prewritten TOS destinies that we all known about, but Chapel can mostly just do her thang, which is pretty much whatever the gently caress she likes, because she's smart enough to be on the Enterprise and antisocial/establishment enough not join Starfleet.

Chapel is probably going to transition into the McCoy role from TOS because Mebenga is boring and she almost literally steals the camera whenever she's in frame. A lot of the SNW demo is going to find her very attractive, and she's already established herself as the best actor on the show.

What I am hoping actually happens is that they continue the current formula where screentime/episodes are being divided amongst the cast more evenly, and it doesn't turn into a Pike/Chapel/:spock: wankfest.

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."
I'm starting to hear about SNW on podcasts and poo poo where the person talking is like "idk, I never watched any of the other ones but this show is great!"

Feels good man.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

External Organs posted:

I'm starting to hear about SNW on podcasts and poo poo where the person talking is like "idk, I never watched any of the other ones but this show is great!"

Feels good man.

Picard feels like it's some sort of money laundering scheme. It really shouldn't exist.

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External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."

Blistex posted:

Picard feels like it's some sort of money laundering scheme. It really shouldn't exist.

My wife wants to finish Picard s2 (I think we watched 2 episodes) but I've trapped her into watching all of Fringe and I'm hoping she forgets it exists.

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