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I’m thinking of going to Commandfest Montreal. What would be fun as a noob?
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Jun 30, 2022 20:03
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I would bring your favorite decks, and an untouched or slightly buffed Precon.
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Jun 30, 2022 20:25
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MonsieurChoc posted:I’m thinking of going to Commandfest Montreal. What would be fun as a noob? I’ll be there. Bring a precon basically you’ll always find games to play.
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Jun 30, 2022 22:41
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Balon posted:I’ll be there. Bring a precon basically you’ll always find games to play. I got a precon and my own two janky decks. I’ll probably be there Sunday only. Got work Friday and a ttrpg game Saturday.
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Jun 30, 2022 23:30
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I really don’t ever want to dogpile anyone in Magic, much less a woman in magic, but this person sucks and shouldn’t be on the CAG https://twitter.com/thekristenemily/status/1542458869460393985?s=21&t=HW4zfoY4mCURdkiNT_f2ew
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Jun 30, 2022 23:50
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BREAKING NEWS: STAX PLAYER IS A DICKHEAD sports after the break
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Jul 1, 2022 00:02
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Why does she suck? That's like the entire purpose of stax effects and she's using them correctly.
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Jul 1, 2022 00:15
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combos with stasis
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Jul 1, 2022 00:19
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The Shortest Path posted:Why does she suck? That's like the entire purpose of stax effects and she's using them correctly. Because she’s complaining that people won’t leave her commander alone and play the game a turn slower the way she wants. It’s like the most toxic commander attitude, the “everyone plays too fast! I wanna play 2012 battlecruiser but everyone is being a big mean doodiehead!” and it just sucks and gives “casual” even more of a bad name, IMO.
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Jul 1, 2022 00:22
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Bust Rodd posted:I really don’t ever want to dogpile anyone in Magic, much less a woman in magic, but this person sucks and shouldn’t be on the CAG Based on what I've seen from the rest of them she seems like a great fit
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Jul 1, 2022 00:22
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Bust Rodd posted:Because she’s complaining that people won’t leave her commander alone and play the game a turn slower the way she wants. It’s like the most toxic commander attitude, the “everyone plays too fast! I wanna play 2012 battlecruiser but everyone is being a big mean doodiehead!” and it just sucks and gives “casual” even more of a bad name, IMO. I think you are very severely misinterpreting her tweet lmao She's poking fun at people for reactionary threat assessment and wasting premium removal on something which doesn't actually hurt them that much because it feels bad, rather than saving it for relevant threats when they don't play much removal.
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Jul 1, 2022 00:24
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The Shortest Path posted:I think you are very severely misinterpreting her tweet lmao This is the person who has complained, at length, that commander is too fast for her angel tribal deck
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Jul 1, 2022 00:27
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The Shortest Path posted:I think you are very severely misinterpreting her tweet lmao … what if I can’t cast my removal on the game ending threat because my 3rd land came into play tapped and now I have to forestall my entire game plan and hold up removal in the hopes that I am guessing correctly? That’s WAY more likely, IMO! Lands coming into play loving sucks, Root Maze is a cEDH staple for a good reason! It doesn’t just slow the game down, it fundamentally changes how the entire game is played. Unfucking my mana will ALWAYS be worth a removal spell, IMO.
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Jul 1, 2022 00:32
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Bust Rodd posted:https://twitter.com/thekristenemily/status/1542458869460393985?s=21&t=HW4zfoY4mCURdkiNT_f2ew Yeah that'd be the prime target for removal with any group I play with, just immediately Especially because it's only opponents stuff that enters tapped. Lol gently caress outta here with that
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Jul 1, 2022 00:42
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That Thalia isn't THAT backbreaking. She's good, for sure, but I wouldn't see her as KOS worthy.
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Jul 1, 2022 00:45
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Paging Toshimo to the thread to see if that Thalia is one of the cards to play in order to play Commander the correct way.
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Jul 1, 2022 01:00
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But what if Thalia holds down the bigger threat from coming down because the other guy's third land came in tapped?
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Jul 1, 2022 01:04
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Heath posted:But what if Thalia holds down the bigger threat from coming down because the other guy's third land came in tapped? Look pal I didn’t sleeve up 35 lands that don’t come into play tapped just so they’d come into play tapped.
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Jul 1, 2022 01:16
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Threat assessment in commander is a complex thing with a whole bunch of factors including hidden information in other players' hands and decks. She's provided none of the context we need to judge whether her fellow players were mistaken, but she's happy to talk poo poo from a position of authority in the community. It's bad form, imo
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Jul 1, 2022 01:21
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CAG members who promote the format through their content and their pleasant demeanor and their inviting others into the format is great! Jim, Rachel, Josh, Olivia all do that! Shivam gets on my nerves but has demonstrated contrition in the past for talking poo poo on cEDH and spreads overall more love than hate. Kristen literally just complains, IMO, her entire Commander social media presence is just complaining that the format is too fast and everyone plays good cards. It’s just a lovely outlook. Eli is a good writer but I unfollowed her on Twitter because she’s kind of a bummer.
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Jul 1, 2022 01:26
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Bust Rodd posted:… what if I can’t cast my removal on the game ending threat because my 3rd land came into play tapped and now I have to forestall my entire game plan and hold up removal in the hopes that I am guessing correctly? That’s WAY more likely, IMO! IMO it's only worth removing if A) you're the beatdown at the table, even after taking the tempo and card loss of blowing removal on an inconvenience, or B) one player has become archenemy and speeding up the other two players (even at the personal tempo loss) is going to do a better job of stopping them.
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Jul 1, 2022 01:33
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That tweet doesn't say anything you're claiming it says. Bust Rodd Bust Rodding again
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Jul 1, 2022 01:34
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Bust Rodd posted:Look pal I didn’t sleeve up 35 lands that don’t come into play tapped just so they’d come into play tapped. So you're mad because you're getting slowed down and you act on it by making unwise decisions with your removal, and are exactly the person she's complaining about, then Honestly if you're the one who bites the bullet for the table and uses your removal on Thalia, then you've let Thalia put you personally at an even bigger disadvantage than the rest of the table
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Jul 1, 2022 01:36
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Thalia comes out, tapping those lands, someone gets annoyed and uses a removal. I counter it because it's funny. I then use my grouphug deck to give everyone a +1/+1 counter and a treasure, because winning isn't why I play. 
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Jul 1, 2022 01:44
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syntaxfunction posted:Thalia comes out, tapping those lands, someone gets annoyed and uses a removal. I counter it because it's funny. Give us your Kwain decklist
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Jul 1, 2022 01:47
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syntaxfunction posted:Thalia comes out, tapping those lands, someone gets annoyed and uses a removal. I counter it because it's funny. Lmao
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Jul 1, 2022 01:50
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Heath posted:So you're mad because you're getting slowed down and you act on it by making unwise decisions with your removal, and are exactly the person she's complaining about, then Blanketly assuming the game is actually better for everyone because we have less mana and can do fewer things is stupid.
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Jul 1, 2022 01:57
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Bust Rodd posted:Blanketly assuming the game is actually better for everyone because we have less mana and can do fewer things is stupid. It isn't better for everyone, it's better for the person playing the stax. That's the point of it. Stax stuff is almost never actually a threat, it's just slowing you down, so you get annoyed with it and start wasting removal on a Thalia that could be saved for better targets.
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Jul 1, 2022 02:03
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That’s the kind of thinking that feeds games to midrange Stax decks. “I’m actually helping you! It’s GOOD that no one can do anything!” is the eternal mantra of every Stax player and even when it happens to be true it doesn’t make it less of a defense. Sometimes the correct move is the get rid of the Stax piece and go for it! Heuristics don’t really work for gameplay, they work for deckbuilding. Once the game begins, there are simply too many variables in a given game or board state to just shrug and say “it’s correct to leave the Stax piece in play and hold up removal for something else”
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Jul 1, 2022 02:07
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No one on the other end is saying it's "good" to be staxed out, just that it is dumb to get aggressive and throw out your removal for it. The smart play is to talk someone else into doing it, or else demand something from the rest of the table, because you are always going to be at a disadvantage by being the one to pull the trigger.
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Jul 1, 2022 02:10
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Play cards you like, remove cards you don't. It ain't rocket science. If you're always waiting for the right time you'll be that person that beats a final boss with like five million buffing items because "I might need it later". Also personally I just offer to go down on someone to not play an annoying card, works pretty well. Seriously tho, I don't really understand the problem. Stax slows you and Thalia is meant to provoke you to waste removal instead of saving for more important things. So wouldn't doing that be good for the Stax player? This is the game. People play cards, and if you don't like it then remove it. And if Thalia gets removed and that's dumb then cool, Thalia player is now in a better position? Why would you complain that you bait your opponents into doing something optimal for you?
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Jul 1, 2022 02:26
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Stax is actually good and fun, and sometimes just necessary. Played a game vs someone who was drawing 3+ cards every orbit, and Rule of Law meant he couldn't combo off and was discarding a bunch of cards. I also think that land destruction is neat, and punishing non basics is actually really important. There should be a cost for playing 4+ colors
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Jul 1, 2022 02:36
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Thom Yorke raps posted:There should be a cost for playing 4+ colors yeah it's $450  i love my mogis deck but i wanna figure out how to make it faster, someone mentioned nekusar for tri color and it seems cool, but the general direction with that commander is to go wheels. i suppose when i start stacking on furnace of rath and stuff the damage gets wild though i think meta i'd be after with nekusar is keeping myself less of an archenemy by allowing people to draw their win cons faster in exchange for life and then occasionally edging out not-4th lol
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Jul 1, 2022 02:43
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Thom Yorke raps posted:Stax is actually good and fun, and sometimes just necessary. Played a game vs someone who was drawing 3+ cards every orbit, and Rule of Law meant he couldn't combo off and was discarding a bunch of cards. The cost for playing 4+ color goodstuff is everyone else thinking that you're a boring rear end in a top hat (and they're right!!!!)
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Jul 1, 2022 03:15
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Silhouette posted:The cost for playing 4+ color goodstuff is everyone else thinking that you're a boring rear end in a top hat (and they're right!!!!) Back on MTGO I put Ruination into every commander deck, even mutilcolored ones, just cuz it hits the rich kids twice as hard.
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Jul 1, 2022 03:26
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Batterypowered7 posted:Paging Toshimo to the thread to see if that Thalia is one of the cards to play in order to play Commander the correct way. There is only 1 card required to play Commander the correct way: 
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Jul 1, 2022 03:28
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Toshimo posted:There is only 1 card required to play Commander the correct way: Now this I can get behind
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Jul 1, 2022 03:32
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Toshimo posted:There is only 1 card required to play Commander the correct way: 
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Jul 1, 2022 03:39
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Toshimo posted:There is only 1 card required to play Commander the correct way: My friends love it!
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As a non-cEDH player, my best guess for what that tweet is supposed to mean is this: If I knew nothing about an opponent's deck and they played Thalia, I'd want to kill it ASAP before my mana gets hosed with even further. I think that she is playing a "fair" deck. Not stax, just something like an aggro deck where she uses Thalia and stuff like that to slow the opponents down long enough to (hopefully) beat down and get value with equipments and stuff. I have a mono-white deck like that; it doesn't play Thalia but it does play other hatebears to slow down the opponents and hold swords. She thinks that her opponents are being stupid for wasting their good removal spells and not saving them for other creatures that are more threatening in that context, like Mirran Crusader or some poo poo. But, at least some of the time, I'd bet what's going on is: her opponents who haven't seen this deck before don't know that her deck isn't stax. They think that the next thing to follow might be Winter Orb or something. So they see Thalia as one piece of a potentially very difficult-to-break lock, and therefore an extremely high-value target. She only sees this as a misplay because she does not understand that stax is a thing and it's a threat to her opponents. But I'm not 100% sure that's what she means. If her deck IS heavy on stax, then she's an idiot for not understanding her own deck. If she is playing aggro and her opponents know she isn't playing stax, then she is maybe kinda right but still being an rear end in a top hat about it. So she's either being an idiot for not understanding that stax is a strategy that exists, an idiot for not understanding the value of her own deck's cards, or just being an rear end in a top hat going "nyah nyah i won, you suck". I cannot think of an interpretation of her words that is more charitable than that.
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