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LLSix posted:The chicken fighting the fox is the high point of that section. If you didn't enjoy the fight or anything up to that, you're not going to like it. Sorry, but good on you for trying something different. Understood. I've found other stories in the genre that I enjoyed, but I guess this one isn't for me. Just wondered if the writing or story changed significantly. Thanks.
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I on the other hand got to the chicken/fox fight and knew my sleep was hosed for the night. One of those books that makes me get big stupid grins on my face and have to put the book down for a minute
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pradmer posted:When does it get good? I tried it when it was still on royalroad and read until a chicken fought a fox and gave up because it was pretty bad up to that point. Yeah as the others were saying it's more about the comedy and the daily life shenanigans. What kind of stuff do you enjoy? It kinda relies on knowledge of Cultivation tropes.
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I just started reading the KU version of Beware of Chicken, having read some of the story a few years ago when it was only on RR. I don’t want to discount the fact that not all artistic endeavors are for everyone, a fact that I’m a firm believer in, but… the chicken vs fox fight happens in chapter 3, literally 6% of the way through the book. I can understand not appreciating what the story is going for, especially if you aren’t familiar with the cultivation genre tropes it pokes fun at, but that’s not giving a lot of time for it to get its legs under itself before writing it off.
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Silynt posted:I just started reading the KU version of Beware of Chicken, having read some of the story a few years ago when it was only on RR. Fair. This is back when it was all on royalroad and there were effectively infinite other stories to try if something didn't grab me right away. That's why I asked to see if I was missing something.
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I'm re-reading Cradle before Dreadgod arrives I see why I was confused about the guy Suriel comes to deal with right at the start - I was always unsure if he was meant to be an Abadon level dude returning to Cradle, or just a [low]gold+ summoned from elsewhere on Cradle and his crime was returning to Sacred valley. At one point during a Suriel PoV she refers to him as "the gold practitioner", and I figured she'd know, but now I think that's just a little author error. The people in Sacred valley thought of him that way, because they thought gold was the mythical peak and his clan gave him a gold badge, but there's no reason for Suriel to think that, and the guy has to be Monarch+ since he ascended beyond Cradle.
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Right, he's "Gold" insofar as they gave him the gold badge and he was like "no other golds around? sure this'll do for now even though I'm way past it" and he's (presumably) still carrying it when Suriel undoes him, but yeah he's not actually gold, he's Monarch+
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I think it was confirmed by Will off the record that the Li Patriarch was a Sage. Back then he did lots of Q & As on his blog, doing worldbuilding and stuff. I think he always advised nothing was canon until it was in the books but off the top of my head I can’t think of an example where he contradicted himself. Maybe the name of one of the Judges? I think that’s why Reaper has the joke about the Judge changing their name. There used to be an archive somewhere with all the stuff he posted about Cradle, the Word of Will of something like that. Dunno if it’s still around. Edit: Also, I find that whole scene very interesting now that we know how Sacred Valley works. The Li Patriarch HAS to establish his overwhelming strength as soon as he arrives because if he waits too long his strength won’t be nearly as overwhelming anymore. Silynt fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Strictly speaking Will said he's equivalent in power to a Sage, IIRC he was an archlord when he ascended, then got other magic.
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Oh man that Li dude was even more of an idiot if he was only Sage level. Not only do you have the Abideen who could come at any moment but you also have the Monarchs on Cradle. Or just anyone in Sacred Valley after a few weeks as Adama found out 
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Zore posted:Or just anyone in Sacred Valley after a few weeks as Adama found out
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Silynt posted:
https://abidanarchive.com/ Darkrenown posted:At one point during a Suriel PoV she refers to him as "the gold practitioner", and I figured she'd know, but now I think that's just a little author error. So this was partially a case of Wight not having fully worked out the magic system at that point, but also not wanting to overwhelm the reader with too much terminology at that point. https://abidanarchive.com/events/7/#e621 https://abidanarchive.com/events/1/#e476 Abidan Archive posted:Zhanzy What's interesting to me is, as a self-pub author, he can go back and update this if he wants. I'll be curious to look when the Kickstarter print editions ship whether he does update this to be clearer, since he is updating the interior to have bloopers anyway.
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Silynt posted:I just started reading the KU version of Beware of Chicken, having read some of the story a few years ago when it was only on RR. No one owes a book or an author anything. If it doesn't click for someone in the first 6% or the first 60% deciding to drop it and move on is perfectly valid.
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8one6 posted:No one owes a book or an author anything. If it doesn't click for someone in the first 6% or the first 60% deciding to drop it and move on is perfectly valid. Ok.
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Picked up Beware of Chicken because of this thread and the bandit fight had me grinning like an idiot.
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8one6 posted:No one owes a book or an author anything. If it doesn't click for someone in the first 6% or the first 60% deciding to drop it and move on is perfectly valid. Word. Hence why KU is so attractive to some.
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How the gently caress is Beware of Chicken so good? I don’t even read litRPGs or whatever and holy crap, hit on all cylinders. Between this and Joel Sheppard I can’t believe the amount of great content I’ve read on KU just in the last month.
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I usually post over in the other SF/F thread, but figured I'd give it a shot over here: has anyone read The Blackpowder Deliverance? Unironically liking it so far but I'm only about half though. Written a lot better than I would have thought for self-pub steampunk.
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If anyone is in the mood for a supers/comics read Forging Hephaestus by Drew Hayes is a pretty solid read. (It's also a long read though.)
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8one6 posted:If anyone is in the mood for a supers/comics read Forging Hephaestus by Drew Hayes is a pretty solid read. (It's also a long read though.) Yes, it's fun.
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Remulak posted:How the gently caress is Beware of Chicken so good? I don’t even read litRPGs or whatever and holy crap, hit on all cylinders. Between this and Joel Sheppard I can’t believe the amount of great content I’ve read on KU just in the last month. Amusingly, Beware of Chicken's author is as surprised as everyone else.
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Its kind of ironic that Beware of Chicken is so good since The author has said he planed for it to be another power fantasy harem fic that KU is full of but instead we get one of the best Cultivation based novels I have read.
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Dreadgod audio preview just went up on Will Wight's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-HkCaZsJeo Transcript on Abidan Archive: https://www.abidanarchive.com/events/23-dreadgod-audio-excerpt/ Uh oh. What is neo-Dross up to?
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8one6 posted:If anyone is in the mood for a supers/comics read Forging Hephaestus by Drew Hayes is a pretty solid read. (It's also a long read though.) The Sequel was good too.
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Tonight I read the Blackpowder Deliverance. I really don't know where I got this from. Maybe it was the forums but I'm pretty sure it was from a random authors note on RoyalRoad, and good Lord you think Amazon suggestions are bad? Author recommendations are 100x more useless because you can never tell when they're being polite, they actually like the book, or they're just plugging their friend. Or been paid to plug someone. Most of these I've seen have been for other serials but sometimes it's a real book. Usually I've either already read them or they suck really bad, but this one was pretty good. It got sold as some kind of 'black powder thriller' (what does that even mean?), but whatever. It's about a small time thug who really does not want to be one, but just has to because the part of town he lives in is completely owned by either a relatively small mob boss, or the Chandler's Union which is literally a mafia with good branding. It's a mystery novel of the type where nothing is particularly twisty or surprising, but instead a twisted political mess where everyone is a scum bag. It's got some fantasy elements to it, but not particularly original. I'm pretty sure it's basically a straight rip off of Dishonored, actually, which also featured a union turned mafia, although the game never clarified if it was an actual trade union or a guild. Anyway, it's a vaguely 1800s setting, complete with steam ships, trains, and poo poo like phonographs and patented medicine. I guess it's probably a spoiler but it mentions it in the first few pages: the city is literally rotting, weird cancerous growths just show up and people haul it out of the city to burn, and working in the burn pits is pretty much considered to be as healthy as selling yourself into a mine labor contract before OSHA and modern equipment existed. Aka you'd be lucky to live out a year most places. All in all I give it a 6/10, it wasn't interesting enough to recommend but it wasn't too mediocre to bother talking about. The author should try coming up with something original instead of writing a Dishonored fanfiction with serial numbers filed off, though. All this needed was whale cultists to really sell it.
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Victorkm posted:The Sequel was good too. Good to know. I just started on it a couple of hours ago.
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Remulak posted:How the gently caress is Beware of Chicken so good? I don’t even read litRPGs or whatever and holy crap, hit on all cylinders. Between this and Joel Sheppard I can’t believe the amount of great content I’ve read on KU just in the last month. I liked Beware of Chicken so much I looked up Joel Sheppard since you put them in the same sentence. Recently took a break on the David Drake RCN series thinking "I still want to read some mil SF, but give me some dang aliens!" oh yeah I can't put this one down 
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AARD VARKMAN posted:I liked Beware of Chicken so much I looked up Joel Sheppard since you put them in the same sentence. Recently took a break on the David Drake RCN series thinking "I still want to read some mil SF, but give me some dang aliens!" oh yeah I can't put this one down If you're willing to descend a level of quality and need more than Shepard's 8 huge doorstoppers, Glynn Stewart has the Duchess of Terra series that fits your description. It isn't as good as Shepard's stuff, more on the turn your brain off and enjoy airport fiction level, but is still in the top 5% of KU and it's nice to read mil sf that isn't written by a crazy person (plus he writes insanely fast). My list of decent sci-fi/fantasy authors on KU is basically Shepard, Stewart, Rachel Aaron, Will Wight, and Drew Hayes though after Beware of Chicken was so good, I'll probably have to add casualfarmer to the list.
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There's now an official recap comic for Reaper: https://imgur.com/a/um9GwET?fbclid=IwAR1ZYXsOJth7QAJiroQhJiFXKiAXhI-qxToKZsLAkvI8lqcGxfxzxjEjHBA
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Cicero posted:There's now an official recap comic for Reaper: https://imgur.com/a/um9GwET?fbclid=IwAR1ZYXsOJth7QAJiroQhJiFXKiAXhI-qxToKZsLAkvI8lqcGxfxzxjEjHBA Holy crap that is really good.
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Cicero posted:There's now an official recap comic for Reaper: https://imgur.com/a/um9GwET?fbclid=IwAR1ZYXsOJth7QAJiroQhJiFXKiAXhI-qxToKZsLAkvI8lqcGxfxzxjEjHBA Wow. I don't even like graphic novels normally but I would buy this for the whole series if it existed. Actually no, I hope Will Wight does a Kickstarter with this artist to produce an anime version of Cradle. His team has already looked into what would be involved in getting an original anime produced, I believe. I would back that!
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Larry Parrish posted:Tonight I read the Blackpowder Deliverance. I really don't know where I got this from. Maybe it was the forums but I'm pretty sure it was from a random authors note on RoyalRoad, and good Lord you think Amazon suggestions are bad? Author recommendations are 100x more useless because you can never tell when they're being polite, they actually like the book, or they're just plugging their friend. Or been paid to plug someone. Most of these I've seen have been for other serials but sometimes it's a real book. Usually I've either already read them or they suck really bad, but this one was pretty good. It got sold as some kind of 'black powder thriller' (what does that even mean?), but whatever. It's about a small time thug who really does not want to be one, but just has to because the part of town he lives in is completely owned by either a relatively small mob boss, or the Chandler's Union which is literally a mafia with good branding. It's a mystery novel of the type where nothing is particularly twisty or surprising, but instead a twisted political mess where everyone is a scum bag. Finished it tonight myself, nice to see he stuck the landing. I liked the book overall and agree with a lot of your review. The setting is extremely Dishonored (there's even an 0451 reference near the end) but as far as I remember there is no magic or anything other-worldly except for that weird cancer stuff. Voe was a great character, and his relationship with Fen was a highlight of the book for me, but some of the other characters like that one slave of Harlow's are pretty undeveloped. I'm surprised at how good the prose was compared to some of the other self-pub stuff I've been abusing myself with lately. But not like that is an especially high bar. tldr, better than it should be, i recommend it for anyone who likes muskets Eason the Fifth fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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Eason the Fifth posted:Finished it tonight myself, nice to see he stuck the landing. I liked the book overall and agree with a lot of your review. The setting is extremely Dishonored (there's even an 0451 reference near the end) but as far as I remember there is no magic or anything other-worldly except for that weird cancer stuff. Voe was a great character, and his relationship with Fen was a highlight of the book for me, but some of the other characters like that one slave of Harlow's are pretty undeveloped. I'm surprised at how good the prose was compared to some of the other self-pub stuff I've been abusing myself with lately. But not like that is an especially high bar. Yeah it's an acceptable 7/10 or so I guess. But nothing to write home about either.
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8one6 posted:I will second the Glynn Stewart recommendation. Duchess of Terra is good. Most of it is fairly reasonable people solving problems in a reasonable way as well as dealing with the aftermath of paranoia/reasonable contingency planning against threats. Love it when “kill slavers” is a core recurring thread.
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Cicero posted:As with most of the art, both official and fan varieties, the way the characters are drawn doesn't really match their descriptions. Yerin should be a lot shorter compared to Lindon, for example. It's one thing to write "Lindon is tall" and another to avoid cutting off his head in every panel.
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LLSix posted:Amusingly, Beware of Chicken's author is as surprised as everyone else. I asked him when book 2 was hitting Amazon and he said he didn't know, but hopes for sometime this year.
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PerniciousKnid posted:It's one thing to write "Lindon is tall" and another to avoid cutting off his head in every panel. Okay in this comic he's not really a babyface, but his face doesn't scream THUG either like the books describe
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