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NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

groped two men apparently, but they were most likely only conservatives.

# ? Jun 30, 2022 21:14

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fuctifino: Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/coldwarsteve/status/1542606582604865536

# ? Jun 30, 2022 21:44

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Not the first time he's been in a sex scandal if the Graun is to be believed:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/30/tory-deputy-chief-whip-resigns-after-embarrassing-myself-and-others

quote:

...

The MP for Tamworth previously stood down from the whips� office in 2017 after he was reported by the Mail on Sunday as making an unwanted pass at the former Olympic rower and Conservative activist Alex Story. The alleged incident reportedly took place with Pincher dressed in a bathrobe at his London home.

He was later cleared in a Conservative party investigation. At the time, a party spokesman said: �Following an investigation, a panel headed by an independent QC considered the evidence and has concluded there has not been a breach of the code of conduct.�

There was disquiet among some Tory MPs that Pincher had resigned rather than been sacked, and been allowed to keep the Conservative whip. �That�s not going to last,� one MP predicted.

Another said Pincher had only been given his role because of his loyalty helping run Johnson�s �shadow whipping operation� in the spring to shore up support.

etc

Strike chat:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/30/uks-biggest-recruiters-warn-against-hiring-agency-staff-to-replace-strikers

quote:

....

In a letter to Kwasi Kwarteng, the bosses of 13 companies including Hays, Adecco, Randstad and Manpower called on the business secretary to reconsider plans to repeal a decades-long ban on using agency workers to cover for picketing staff.

�We can only see these proposals inflaming strikes � not ending them,� the 13 groups warned in their letter, which was sent by Sarah Thewlis, chair of the Recruitment & Employment Confederation (REC).

The company executives said they felt �compelled� to write to the business secretary as the leaders of the largest staffing businesses in the UK to express their �concern� at how the government was moving ahead with the proposals, which they described as �unhelpful�.

Faced with strikes by thousands of rail workers and staff in other industries over pay offers well below the 9.1% inflation rate at a time of soaring living costs, the government this week put forward draft legislation.

It would remove the restriction under regulation 7 of the 2003 conduct regulations �preventing employment businesses from introducing or supplying agency workers to hirers to replace individuals taking part in official strike or official industrial action�.

The prohibition to apply agency staff during a strike was first introduced in 1976 under the Labour government. The rules are separately enacted in Wales and the UK government intends to repeal them against the wishes of the Welsh Labour government.

The staffing agencies said in the letter: �We strongly believe it has the potential to cost our businesses � as we will be held responsible for sending strike breakers across a picket line and putting our workers in harm�s way. It will not matter if our individual businesses choose not to supply � the industry will be called into disrepute.

etc.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jun 30, 2022

# ? Jun 30, 2022 21:49

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

When your proposal to use agency workers as strike breakers is too lovely even for agencies themselves.

# ? Jun 30, 2022 22:32

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

I worked for Manpower back in the 80s as a temp secretary and we had a handbook which prohibited strike breaking / crossing picket lines.
(And it also prohibited us using chairs to get things on /off high shelves which annoyed the boss sometimes!)

# ? Jun 30, 2022 22:45

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

I will throw chairs at things to dislodge them from high shelves if I wish :mad:

# ? Jun 30, 2022 22:46

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Guavanaut posted:

I will throw chairs at things to dislodge them from high shelves if I wish

I expect the woke 'Elf n Safety officers will be after you if you do.

# ? Jun 30, 2022 22:52

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Right. You know how its really easy to lift things underwater because I dunno the natural buoyancy of water. We should flood all warehouses, keep them like aquariums and have either scuba divers or, more realistically, mini robot subs stack/sort/pick the products and deliver them to output chutes into waiting delivery vehicles.

# ? Jun 30, 2022 23:03

Trin Tragula: Apr 22, 2005

There's a particular concern for agencies who would be sending staff into safety-critical roles on the railway, which is Section 34 Offences Against the Person Act 1861:

quote:

Doing or omitting anything to endanger passengers by railway.

Whosoever, by any unlawful act, or by any wilful omission or neglect, shall endanger or cause to be endangered the safety of any person conveyed or being in or upon a railway, or shall aid or assist therein, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for any term not exceeding two years.

There was a very weird prosecution a few years ago of a Merseyrail guard who had done nothing particularly unreasonable and had an old woman fall down the side of his train after trying to get on when the doors were closing; but I can see how the CPS might have thought there was a reasonable prospect of conviction based on how broadly the offence is written. If something like that happened with an untrained agency worker, a lot of eyes would be on the agency. Someone dies, and that could easily end in corporate manslaughter.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 00:34

Grey Hunter: Oct 17, 2007; Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Yeah, it's pretty much been admitted that they would only be able to replace the cleaners and folks who push the refreshements carts up and down - the key personel like points operators or anyone who needs any real training will not be replaceable.

So there would be plenty of food on that train thats not moving anywhere.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 03:46

Confusedslight: Jan 9, 2020

Grey Hunter posted:

So there would be plenty of food on that train thats not moving anywhere.

Feel like that's a metaphor for something

# ? Jul 1, 2022 05:23

evilmiera: Dec 14, 2009; Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

sebzilla posted:

Blowis Jobson

Boris Johnson... got a BJ?

I thought we were past people's habits being determined by their names?

# ? Jul 1, 2022 07:48

Strom Cuzewon: Jul 1, 2010

evilmiera posted:

Boris Johnson... got a BJ?

I thought we were past people's habits being determined by their names?

I've got no idea what you're on about.

Kind regards,
Strom Orgies and Ice Cream

# ? Jul 1, 2022 08:06

Marmaduke!: May 19, 2009; Why would it do that!?

Grey Hunter posted:

Yeah, it's pretty much been admitted that they would only be able to replace the cleaners and folks who push the refreshements carts up and down - the key personel like points operators or anyone who needs any real training will not be replaceable.

So there would be plenty of food on that train thats not moving anywhere.

This is 21st century Britain, they might have refreshment carts but expecting there to be food on it is rather optimistic

# ? Jul 1, 2022 08:14

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

evilmiera posted:

Boris Johnson... got a BJ?

I thought we were past people's habits being determined by their names?

Don't worry, James Cleverly works overtime to disprove nominative determinism.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 09:01

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

MP for Braintree

# ? Jul 1, 2022 09:08

sebzilla: Mar 17, 2009; Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.

There's a bit in the Guardian today about Labour blocking left wingers from standing as MP candidates, and a Labour source saying "nah we don't do that, look, here's noted left-wing hero Paul Mason" and reader I have not stopped laughing.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 09:12

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

I think I just found the ultimate dad joke. This is a level beyond :dadjoke:

https://twitter.com/AlexSelbyB/status/1542537899207540736

(but also yes childcare costs in Britain are bad)

# ? Jul 1, 2022 09:16

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Guavanaut posted:

I think I just found the ultimate dad joke. This is a level beyond

https://twitter.com/AlexSelbyB/status/1542537899207540736

(but also yes childcare costs in Britain are bad)

Incroyable

Interesting to see it quantified like that though, I think it's actually worse in Ireland. Every day I don't have a child is another win. Without being a /r/childfree freak, it absolutely owns to get up when I want and not be psychologically destroyed by the emotional and financial turmoil of parenting

# ? Jul 1, 2022 09:21

kecske: Feb 28, 2011; it's round, like always

my 2 year old goes to nursery 3 days a week for the low low monthly cost of £1400

# ? Jul 1, 2022 09:47

el dingo: Mar 19, 2009; Ogres are like onions

kecske posted:

my 2 year old goes to nursery 3 days a week for the low low monthly cost of £1400

Christ that's more than my rent and I live in hackney

# ? Jul 1, 2022 09:52

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Mine is going to nursery in October, 5 days a week for 1500 a month

I can't wait because my wife will be going to the office and I'll be working from home and the amount of videogaming I'll be doing will be astronomical

Absolutely worth every penny

# ? Jul 1, 2022 09:53

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

el dingo posted:

Christ that's more than my rent and I live in hackney

But does your landlord come over and do alphabet songs and fingerpaints and Naptime with you?

# ? Jul 1, 2022 09:55

farcry: Jan 18, 2006

Lol that's how much I earn a month before tax. Lmao wtf. Is it still just 2 min wage care staff for 20+ children?

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:03

stev: Jan 22, 2013; Please be excited.

And from the parents I know if your toddler so much as sniffles a bit funny they get sent home immediately and your fee isn't refunded.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:06

Chubby Henparty: Aug 13, 2007

My wife's income was pretty much the same amount as costs for childminding and train fare so she packed her job in to become a childminder. Worked out pretty well, until covid.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:08

SixFigureSandwich: Oct 30, 2004; Exciting Lemon

Failed Imagineer posted:

Incroyable

Interesting to see it quantified like that though, I think it's actually worse in Ireland. Every day I don't have a child is another win. Without being a /r/childfree freak, it absolutely owns to get up when I want and not be psychologically destroyed by the emotional and financial turmoil of parenting

Maybe I want to get up at 3am and then sleep again until 6:30, have you considered that?

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:08

notaspy: Mar 22, 2009

Got my kids in the local outstanding nursery for 3 days a week and even with the 30 hours free it costs between £1500 and £1700 a month.

This is about the same as my mortgage on my 3 bedroom flat.

loving crazy money.

This isn't actually that far off what it would cost to send them to private school but gently caress that poo poo, I don't want to raise a couple of toff cunts.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:13

MeinPanzer: Dec 20, 2004; anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts

Wait, the guy who stepped down because he groped two men was named Chris Pincher?

This island is beyond parody.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:37

keep punching joe: Jan 22, 2006; Die Satan!

I dream of a society where full-time childcare is free or child benefit increased to allow one parent to not need to be in work.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:37

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Didn't our anti-Semitic Jesus want to make childcare completely free.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:39

Private Speech: Mar 30, 2011; I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Czech Republic has free (and quite decent) childcare and education.

The cost of education in the UK frankly terrifies me, no children for me while I live here.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:40

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

notaspy posted:

This isn't actually that far off what it would cost to send them to private school but gently caress that poo poo, I don't want to raise a couple of toff cunts.

I went to private school and I turned out to be a socialist oval office :colbert:

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:40

Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

That's more than my actual post tax salary. :psyduck:

Fortunately I'm not in the south so I do have pretty low expenditure with the ability to save and buy luxuries, but there is no amount of coffee and avocado toast I could give up that would ever let me afford that.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:41

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

That's more than my actual post tax salary.

Fortunately I'm not in the south so I do have pretty low expenditure with the ability to save and buy luxuries, but there is no amount of coffee and avocado toast I could give up that would ever let me afford that.

What about the Netflix, sky and mobile phone? That should do it for you! (joking obviously!)

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:52

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

I hate this fkin twat. I don't know which particular Sturmer groupie it was but it probably came straight from Sturmer HQ.

quote:

Asked why sitting councillors elected under Corbyn�s leadership were being ruled out as parliamentary candidates, a Starmer ally said: �Just because they met his standards, doesn�t mean they meet ours.�

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/01/starmer-allies-reject-claims-leftwingers-blocked-from-standing-for-labour

# ? Jul 1, 2022 10:58

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I hate this fkin twat. I don't know which particular Sturmer groupie it was but it probably came straight from Sturmer HQ.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/01/starmer-allies-reject-claims-leftwingers-blocked-from-standing-for-labour

"Just because they met voters' standards, doesn't mean they meet ours. We are very electable."

# ? Jul 1, 2022 11:01

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

MeinPanzer posted:

Wait, the guy who stepped down because he groped two men was named Chris Pincher?

This island is beyond parody.

Johnson got his johnson polished.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 11:04

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

MeinPanzer posted:

Wait, the guy who stepped down because he groped two men was named Chris Pincher?

This island is beyond parody.

Well, at least he's not called Childe-Farquhar.

# ? Jul 1, 2022 11:08

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the sex ghost: Sep 6, 2009

The RT Hon Barry Diddler MP

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