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If he lives at number 10 then does it count as working from home and is it wrong to engage in oral sex while working from home?
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I mean, it doesn't feel wrong
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Jul 1, 2022 13:50
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Jul 1, 2022 14:21
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OwlFancier posted:If he lives at number 10 then does it count as working from home and is it wrong to engage in oral sex while working from home? I thought his living quarters were actually in No. 11 and Chancellor lives in No. 10 living quarters. I know it changed for Blair/Brown and I think it stayed like that? I might be wrong!
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Jul 1, 2022 14:31
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I thought his living quarters were actually in No. 11 and Chancellor lives in No. 10 living quarters. Yes Blair moved into No11 because it's bigger and he had kids at the time, and basically everyone since has stayed there.
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Jul 1, 2022 14:34
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Maybe by never strike a deal it's because he's admitting how awful he is at negotiations.
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Jul 1, 2022 14:34
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massive spider posted:Yeah but this is one of the issues with dealing with a narcissistic sack of poo poo, you end up getting eroded to the point where youre like “well this isn’t as bad as the time they…”. They erode your standards.
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Jul 1, 2022 14:38
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Tesseraction posted:Maybe by never strike a deal it's because he's admitting how awful he is at negotiations. He's against striking workers, striking deals, and striking a chord with voters.
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Jul 1, 2022 14:45
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ThomasPaine posted:Just screams prudishness to me, as if half the people talking wouldn't be delighted if they were getting sucked off at work. r. If I did that, and got caught, I'd be fired. Why not him?
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Jul 1, 2022 14:48
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feedmegin posted:If I did that, and got caught, I'd be fired. Why not him? have you considered doing it for the bantz?
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Jul 1, 2022 15:01
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feedmegin posted:If I did that, and got caught, I'd be fired. Why not him? I don't think you should be fired if you were caught getting a cheeky blowy under the desk in your office, assuming everything is consensual and you're not exploiting your power over anyone. e: Obviously assuming you have your own office, don't be doing this in open plan places. That's a bit too last days of rome even for me.
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Jul 1, 2022 15:04
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ThomasPaine posted:I don't think you should be fired if you were caught getting a cheeky blowy under the desk in your office, assuming everything is consensual and you're not exploiting your power over anyone. That's an...interesting point of view but also not congruent with modern employment reality.
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Jul 1, 2022 15:05
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I never said it was!
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Jul 1, 2022 15:05
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Like, it's like the r/relationships posts where someone comes in to work wearing a slave collar and leash and insists everyone calls their boyfriend 'master'. You sort of have a right to not be involved in someone else's sex weirdness in your workplace.
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Jul 1, 2022 15:06
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If youre getting a blowie in your place of work youre kind of involving anyone who might walk in. Which is reportedly exactly what happened and some poor soul now has to live with knowing what Johnson’s O face looks like. I mean the general principle of sex positivity/non prudishness/whatever is “what consenting adults do in private” and this isn’t exactly in accordance with the last bit.
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Jul 1, 2022 15:07
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ThomasPaine posted:I never said it was! Well, no, but you replied to a statement on what is with what you think should be which seems to have been your approach from the beginning on this
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Jul 1, 2022 15:07
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If you don't think that people should be fired for that then the extrapolated answer for why he wouldn't be fired for it even if you would, is that "he doesn't have a boss who could fire him"
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Jul 1, 2022 15:12
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OwlFancier posted:If you don't think that people should be fired for that then the extrapolated answer for why he wouldn't be fired for it even if you would, is that "he doesn't have a boss who could fire him" Well. Technically, he does. Assuming she's still on this earth and not doing a Weekend at Bernie's, of course.
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Jul 1, 2022 15:13
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Barry Foster posted:Well, no, but you replied to a statement on what is with what you think should be Yes, exactly. I know it's widely considered inappropriate, but I think it's a bit of a throwback and making a much bigger deal out of something than it needs to. massive spider posted:If youre getting a blowie in your place of work youre kind of involving anyone who might walk in. Which is reportedly exactly what happened and some poor soul now has to live with knowing what Johnson’s O face looks like. Well yes, I would suggest that you lock the office door first. I kind of assumed the situation was he was about after hours or something when he thought the place was dead or at least didn't expect to be disturbed. feedmegin posted:Like, it's like the r/relationships posts where someone comes in to work wearing a slave collar and leash and insists everyone calls their boyfriend 'master'. You sort of have a right to not be involved in someone else's sex weirdness in your workplace. Obviously expecting other people to participate by calling someone 'master' isn't the same, but notwithstanding that can you honestly tell me you wouldn't find the situation just a little bit entertaining.
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Jul 1, 2022 15:15
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I mean sure I guess but the queen hasn't intervened at any previous juncture so it seems very unlikely she would do so at this point.
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Personally it's just difficult to give a poo poo because I am in the process of inventing a new type of socialism where instead of building a worker's paradise on earth because there is none in the afterlife, we should instead focus on constructing hell so that we can put politicians in it for their many and incalculable crimes. So, with that in mind, it seems a bit small potatoes.
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Jul 1, 2022 15:19
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The entire country deteriorates into a terrible American frat comedy as the Queen walks in on a drunk Boris getting his dick licked and then a dozen tories start chanting GILF GILF GILF
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OwlFancier posted:Personally it's just difficult to give a poo poo because I am in the process of inventing a new type of socialism where instead of building a worker's paradise on earth because there is none in the afterlife, we should instead focus on constructing hell so that we can put politicians in it for their many and incalculable crimes. You might like Surface Detail by Iain M. Banks if you haven't read it: "As the book begins, a war game—the "War in Heaven"—has been running for several decades. The outcome of the simulated war will determine whether societies are allowed to run artificial Hells, virtual afterlives in which the mind-states of the dead are tortured. The Culture, fiercely anti-Hell, has opted to stay out of the war while accepting the outcome as binding."
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Jul 1, 2022 15:33
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I stopped reading banks half way through excession cos honestly I kinda got a bit bored. But I think I vaguely recall something like that being mentioned possibly in another book or in a summary online or something.
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Jul 1, 2022 15:45
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happyhippy posted:Do you think Liz and Phil ever did it on the throne? Thanks for the memory of The Crown ep that literally ends with Liz giving Phil a blowie
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Jul 1, 2022 16:06
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OwlFancier posted:I stopped reading banks half way through excession cos honestly I kinda got a bit bored. Excession is a really hard read. It was my first and nearly bounced off as well since the concept sounds really cool but the execution is hard to follow if you dont know the universe. The other books are better if you haven't tried them yet. Surface Detail and Hydrogen Sonata have a fairly normal story structure and are far more accessible.
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Jul 1, 2022 16:15
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Z the IVth posted:Excession is a really hard read. It was my first and nearly bounced off as well since the concept sounds really cool but the execution is hard to follow if you dont know the universe. The other books are better if you haven't tried them yet. I actually read consider phlebas and the player of games before that, the whole thing never really clicked with me for some reason. I like the ideas in the books, I just didn't enjoy the actual stories very much. Also the details just did not at all stick in my brain, I would struggle to tell you anything really memorable from them and certainly not any of the characters. I think my abiding feeling is that I would like someone else to write stories set in the same universe.
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Jul 1, 2022 16:21
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Player of Games is the place to start with Culture novels. Short, to the point, leaves you wanting more It's nowhere near the best of them, I just think it's the best intro
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Jul 1, 2022 16:21
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ThomasPaine posted:Well yes, I would suggest that you lock the office door first. I kind of assumed the situation was he was about after hours or something when he thought the place was dead or at least didn't expect to be disturbed. Given Bozza, why on earth do you assume this?
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Funnily I think I liked that less that consider phlebas because it seemed like the most mundane of the ones I read. To the point that I can remember almost nothing about it other than the general plot synopsis of the leader of faze clan being sent to dunk on the esports tournament civilization so he can win the mountain dew sponsorship for the culture. Literally no other memory of the novel at all other than "man good at games, goes to game planet, beats everyone on game planet, game planet self destructs because foreigner won game tournament" Which is weird cos the book is several centimeters thick so presumably a lot of other things must have happened and I must have read them but I couldn't tell you what they are. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jul 1, 2022 |
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Jul 1, 2022 16:26
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This lady knows what's up https://twitter.com/PriyamvadaGopal/status/1542818236181397506
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ThomasPaine posted:Yes, exactly. I know it's widely considered inappropriate, but I think it's a bit of a throwback and making a much bigger deal out of something than it needs to. inter-office affairs are chill guys don't be prudes is not the attitude of the modern sexually-liberated free thinker it's the attitude of 1950s executives forcing their secretaries to have abortions... something which boris has also done!
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bessantj posted:This lady knows what's up I mean. Half the top Tories went through the Union (Bozza included) so it's hardly surprising. It's training school for Oxford rightwingers. (Leftwingers tend to go through OUSU instead, that is the actual Oxford student union) (and by leftwingers, other than Tony Benn عليه السلام ʿ I mostly mean people on the Starmer end of the party) feedmegin fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jul 1, 2022 |
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OwlFancier posted:Funnily I think I liked that less that consider phlebas because it seemed like the most mundane of the ones I read. To the point that I can remember almost nothing about it other than the general plot synopsis of the leader of faze clan being sent to dunk on the esports tournament civilization so he can win the mountain dew sponsorship for the culture. No, this is pretty much it, except there's also a lot of political manoeuvring / "utopian ambassador to an authoritarian world finds he can trust nobody" stuff which I remember felt to me a bit cribbed from Left Hand Of Darkness. (Which isn't a bad thing, because if you have to steal from somewhere...)
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OwlFancier posted:Funnily I think I liked that less that consider phlebas because it seemed like the most mundane of the ones I read. To the point that I can remember almost nothing about it other than the general plot synopsis of the leader of faze clan being sent to dunk on the esports tournament civilization so he can win the mountain dew sponsorship for the culture. The easiest to read are the last three, ideally in the order of Surface Detail/Matter/Hydrogen Sonata. Look to Windward isn't too difficult either. Don't read Inversions or Use of Weapons unless you want more difficult reads though. UoW is written in a weird intervowen order that only makes sense at the end and Inversions is written entirely from the perspective of a low-technology civilization. e: Surface Detail has the hypercapitalism bits everyone likes to quote. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Jul 1, 2022 |
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I don't think I found them difficult to read so much as banks doesn't write characters that I am invested in or can remember anything about. I don't know if that is just a stylistic thing or whether it counts as being "bad" at writing them. Also while the setting is very compelling I feel like the fact that the protagonists are utterly uninterested in it, kinda spoils it, because I just find myself wishing there were just pages long descriptions of background stuff. Give me, I dunno, a light romance between landscape engineers living on a ringworld narrated by the ring Mind who has a side hobby doing matchmaking for random people using its big brain, where every chapter is them going on a trip to a different cool space thing and talking about it.
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feedmegin posted:Given Bozza, why on earth do you assume this? Very fair point Rustybear posted:inter-office affairs are chill guys don't be prudes is not the attitude of the modern sexually-liberated free thinker it's the attitude of 1950s executives forcing their secretaries to have abortions... something which boris has also done! Bit different when it's a colleague, yeah. But if I was working late and somehow stumbled my way into a sexual partner turning up and giving me a blowie in the office I certainly wouldn't consider that some great moral issue and I'd be pretty mad if Dave from accounts decided push to have me sacked if if he decided to pick up a file at 10pm and saw me through the blinds. ANYWAY. I am going to stop arguing about the ethics of workplace blowjobs now, tyvm.
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OwlFancier posted:I don't think I found them difficult to read so much as banks doesn't write characters that I am invested in or can remember anything about. I don't know if that is just a stylistic thing or whether it counts as being "bad" at writing them. Also while the setting is very compelling I feel like the fact that the protagonists are utterly uninterested in it, kinda spoils it, because I just find myself wishing there were just pages long descriptions of background stuff. That pretty much mirrors my own feelings, having read the first two books also, I just couldn't get invested in any of the characters. Ultimately I decided the style wasn't for me, much as I wanted it to be. Heck, I think I remember even less about Consider Phlebas, there was a...planet that had like...a bunch of underground train stations or something?? It had an AI in it they needed to get. I don't think I could tell you literally anything about the characters other than that one was an Iridian and the other was a Culture operative. I think? It just completely failed to have any impact on me which I found rather disappointing.
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People reccomend Player of Games because its a nice simple introduction to the Culture, but this also means it's by far the least interesting of the novels. Excession and Use of Weapons are the absolute highpoints for me, and work as a pretty good duology, looking at the Culture from the perspective of the Minds on top, and the random schlubs on the bottom.
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Now they just add the words 'despite what he says' onto the end of the sentance and get to lump bonus untrustworthiness on there.
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