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Fellblade posted:Some real dumb hot takes like I am saying losing is bad and shouldn’t be in games. i feel like users very new to the game will understand that if they did not prepare for a country the game is signalling wants to eat you, when an event fires saying "hey do u want to get eaten or try to fight them off", their reaction won't be surprise and wondering which option to pick, it will be "oh poo poo this is do or die now, huh". jesus christ. expecting the people who play vicky 3 to have a 5 second memory is almost insulting to Paradox gamers, and that's.. really saying something lol
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It's such a weird outside case, that someone entirely new to paradox games starts up the game, ignores all the signage pointing them towards powerful nations, lacks any historical/intuitive knowledge about what nations are going to be stronger than other, turns on ironman, and then rather then being unceremoniously conquered by their powerful neighbour is vassalised (does the A.I ever even pick that peace option?), and after all that is surprised that their campaign ends poorly. Like i'm sure this has happened, but the odds of it occuring regularly has to be pretty low.
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It'd be kinda cool if V3 had some evolved version of being a CK style vassal when you get annexed with some additional gameplay. Like you control your own military to help the AI overlord out, like how a bunch of German states technically still had their own militaries. So you're still kinda playing like as an independent but you got much better protection from being a part of a larger whole. Kinda like being a governor in Stellar Monarch but 19th century instead. Maybe your goal once annexed is to try to re-gain your independence?
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Raenir Salazar posted:It'd be kinda cool if V3 had some evolved version of being a CK style vassal when you get annexed with some additional gameplay. Like you control your own military to help the AI overlord out, like how a bunch of German states technically still had their own militaries. So you're still kinda playing like as an independent but you got much better protection from being a part of a larger whole. Kinda like being a governor in Stellar Monarch but 19th century instead. Maybe your goal once annexed is to try to re-gain your independence? Isn't that just like the various degrees of vassalage that V3 does have?
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Raenir Salazar posted:It'd be kinda cool if V3 had some evolved version of being a CK style vassal when you get annexed with some additional gameplay. Like you control your own military to help the AI overlord out, like how a bunch of German states technically still had their own militaries. So you're still kinda playing like as an independent but you got much better protection from being a part of a larger whole. Kinda like being a governor in Stellar Monarch but 19th century instead. Maybe your goal once annexed is to try to re-gain your independence?
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Vagabong posted:It's such a weird outside case, that someone entirely new to paradox games starts up the game, ignores all the signage pointing them towards powerful nations, lacks any historical/intuitive knowledge about what nations are going to be stronger than other, turns on ironman, and then rather then being unceremoniously conquered by their powerful neighbour is vassalised (does the A.I ever even pick that peace option?), and after all that is surprised that their campaign ends poorly. Slam pick Albania in every game where it is an option always
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Moonshine Rhyme posted:Slam pick Albania in every game where it is an option always Slam picks Albania cranks the sim speed to max, goes and gets a hotdog
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Every US state its own playable country. Goon challenge: making Mississippi not the worst state in the union.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Goon challenge: making Mississippi not the worst state in the union. You win the second California gains statehood
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Gaius Marius posted:You win the second California gains statehood They have a cool flag though.
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I mean you folks can believe your ‘feelings’ on the matter and I guess I’ll continue believing the actual humans this happened to and we can go on living our lives.
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Fellblade posted:I mean you folks can believe your ‘feelings’ on the matter and I guess I’ll continue believing the actual humans this happened to and we can go on living our lives.
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I believe those humans you speak if exist, even if I don’t exactly know what your talking about. But I do not think a game should be balanced around that. Unless you personally know thousands of people this happened to.
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People who went surprised_pikachu.jpg when they got a game over in a video game are lucky to have a staunch ally in you, I guess?
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Fellblade posted:I mean you folks can believe your ‘feelings’ on the matter and I guess I’ll continue believing the actual humans this happened to and we can go on living our lives. 
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Fellblade posted:I mean you folks can believe your ‘feelings’ on the matter and I guess I’ll continue believing the actual humans this happened to and we can go on living our lives. Losing at a video game isn't a traumatic experience, on paradox games it's just something that happens when you're learning the ropes.
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I started as a one-province-minor next to a famously expansionist great power, this proved to be a challenge for me so I'm never playing the game again and have very possibly lost my ability to feel human.
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Mans posted:Losing at a video game isn't a traumatic experience
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To be fair, "people picking extremely bad nations as a new player" is a problem that Paradox games have had in the past, but that's why they've had recommended nations for like half a dozen titles now. Designers can only idiot-proof a game so much and if a player is dead set on stepping on their own dick, it doesn't make sense to strip mechanics out of the game in the hopes of preventing them from doing it. Diplo annexing exists because it's a thing people want to do to other nations. The fact that it can happen to you is a necessary consequence of that. The fact that it can't happen to you unless you explicitly consent to it is the concession made to player agency.
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Getting my rear end handed to me for tens to hundreds of hours is what made eu4 enjoyable for me when it did click
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Baronjutter posted:have very possibly lost my ability to feel human. If you still feel human you're not playing enough Paradox games.
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Fellblade posted:I mean you folks can believe your ‘feelings’ on the matter and I guess I’ll continue believing the actual humans this happened to and we can go on living our lives. Ok
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I'm not even sure I understand the complaint that this argument is about. Every German minor fighting to the death to avoid unification would be both ahistorical and not fun for the one unifying Germany (which is the role players are far, far more likely to take than "German minor that gets annexed to form Germany"). Not saying ahistorical things shouldn't happen, but historical-ish outcomes should be what the game's systems are oriented towards.
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Pakled posted:I'm not even sure I understand the complaint that this argument is about. Every German minor fighting to the death to avoid unification would be both ahistorical and not fun for the one unifying Germany (which is the role players are far, far more likely to take than "German minor that gets annexed to form Germany"). Not saying ahistorical things shouldn't happen, but historical-ish outcomes should be what the game's systems are oriented towards. And isn't it all a moot point because a dev diary showed a popup that was basically "Do you want to tag switch to the new overlord"?
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Arrath posted:And isn't it all a moot point because a dev diary showed a popup that was basically "Do you want to tag switch to the new overlord"? Which is kinda funny. "Great job unifying Germany, Bismarck. Now I can make the Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe the Chancellor like I always wanted!".
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Fellblade posted:I mean you folks can believe your ‘feelings’ on the matter and I guess I’ll continue believing the actual humans this happened to and we can go on living our lives. Can you provide a specific example of the events that led up to someone accidentally getting diploannexed? Because as it is, the reason people are bringing up quote unquote feelings is because they've got nothing to go on here.
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Fellblade posted:I mean you folks can believe your ‘feelings’ on the matter and I guess I’ll continue believing the actual humans this happened to and we can go on living our lives. I run an emotional support group for people who fel off a platform in Mario, if you want to join, I'm sure we'd be able to accommodate you
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steinrokkan posted:I run an emotional support group for people who fel off a platform in Mario, if you want to join, I'm sure we'd be able to accommodate you Do you have one for people who got eaten by piranha plants that pop up from pipes? Asking for a friend.
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Victoria 3: I mean you folks can believe your ‘feelings’ on the matter
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Victoria 3: Factories don't care about your feelings
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trapped mouse posted:Victoria 3: Factories don't care about your feelings 
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You think it isn't an issue but then famous youtuber KootzPlays tries to start an epic V3 Hanover series and gets his followers to review bomb the game after he helps Prussia annex himself.
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Fray posted:Isn't that just like the various degrees of vassalage that V3 does have? Yeah I thought this was why Vic 3 has varying levels of autonomy for vassals. So you can play as European colonies and trade companies, and also do historically accurate things like play a non-european country and beg the British to make you a protectorate so you don't get annexed by the French, or vice versa.
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https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/1544344311428698112
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I'm glad Afganistan doesnt have their little panhandle that the British and Russians agreed to give to the Afgans in the late 1800s so that their (Russia & English India) borders would not officially touch.
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Do they have a good Wool industry? Then you can play Hide and Sikh.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Do they have a good Wool industry? Then you can play Hide and Sikh. m...mods?!
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Raenir Salazar posted:Do they have a good Wool industry? Then you can play Hide and Sikh. Spoilers please for upcoming achievements
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