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Gamerofthegame posted:I am not sure why you'd ever want to use the merc whistle for its mechanical benefit The shadow dash is incredibly, incredibly good but it's not on par with the SSS tier stuff like Lorenz. "Extremely good mobility to continue combos" is a useful tool but it doesn't stack up to "brainlessly invincible".
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Gamerofthegame posted:I am not sure why you'd ever want to use the merc whistle for its mechanical benefit I dont know if i agree. Its fun and cute and all to get around the map or close the distance after a combo. But some of these skills are just better. If i need to be at another place i can order one of my characters over there while I'm fighting on the other side with Shez.
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Jul 2, 2022 19:07
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Kanos posted:The shadow dash is incredibly, incredibly good but it's not on par with the SSS tier stuff like Lorenz. "Extremely good mobility to continue combos" is a useful tool but it doesn't stack up to "brainlessly invincible". Doesn't it also give a chance to instakill mobs? I find that + the mobility vital for S ranking from what I've played. On harder stages I'd guess not dying is probably more important though.
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Jul 2, 2022 19:08
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Giving Shez Sylvain's ability + Asura is ridiculous, particularly on maps where you need to clear 1800+ enemies for the S Rank. It just turns Shez into the human lawnmower with infinity range who can step into a stronghold and kill everything in it while standing still. Just about to finish GW and not sure who I'm giving the whistle to. Probably gonna be Lorentz I guess for his ridiculous invincibility gimmick.
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Jul 2, 2022 19:28
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Currently on GW so no, haven't seen it yet. https://twitter.com/edwardsabavo/status/1541215841466949632?s=21&t=gart8tumky-8Fo2s3glFvQ
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Jul 2, 2022 19:45
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femboys winning!!
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Jul 2, 2022 20:22
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"gently caress pretty boys." -Yoko Taro
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Jul 2, 2022 20:35
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Could be wrong but something tells me the game would be significantly less gay if the localization had been handled by Treehouse like Three Houses instead of 8-4. Please give this localization team more FE games going forward, NoA.
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Jul 2, 2022 21:00
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Much like Thyrsus, Lysithea uses Lorenz's ability better than him. Shez doesn't need invincibility but she sure as poo poo does.
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Jul 2, 2022 21:07
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Sydin posted:Could be wrong but something tells me the game would be significantly less gay if the localization had been handled by Treehouse like Three Houses instead of 8-4. I’m curious if the writing is just as gay in Japan
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Jul 2, 2022 21:17
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DC Murderverse posted:I’m curious if the writing is just as gay in Japan In Three Houses because of Treehouse, the Japanese script was much gayer than the English.
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Jul 2, 2022 21:18
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8-4 has done fire emblem games before, they were just usually busy with other stuff. Like they didn't do Fates because they were hired instead to do Xenoblade Chronicles X which was releasing around the same year. And they were doing a lot of live service mobile games like Draglia Lost and Twisted Wonderland during the Three Hopes launch.
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Jul 2, 2022 21:26
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Playing halfway through Golden Wildfire and all this game does is make me want to play through Three Houses again. It's pretty good though! I dig how much more fleshed out the world is.
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Jul 2, 2022 21:30
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Doesn't it also give a chance to instakill mobs? I find that + the mobility vital for S ranking from what I've played. On harder stages I'd guess not dying is probably more important though. It produces random slashes that instakill mobs, but Shez's unique classes(or any cav) have such ludicrously huge attack ranges that it's extremely easy to keep everything in front of you in a combo for another second or two until they're dead. Lorenz's ability goes beyond simply not dying, too - enemy characters who attack into it and trigger the auto-guard will flinch back and lose their own guard so you can start hurting them/picking them up in your combo vacuum cleaner, meaning that with his ability active the best approach to enemy characters is to Just Keep Swinging.
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Eimi posted:Much like Thyrsus, Lysithea uses Lorenz's ability better than him. Shez doesn't need invincibility but she sure as poo poo does. That'd mean giving up Lysithea's "make everything loving explode and flock together for free every couple of seconds" ability and who needs to be invincibile when you literally melt everything constantly? Her ability isn't super great on a mage but if you make her a swordperson it is absurdly loving good because you have a like 3 second cooldown low-durability cost spammable dark-oriented (and MAG-based before you get her unique ability) attack for like five seconds effort. You need to try to even take damage as her even on harder difficulty modes. Honestly that's kind of my biggest complaint about the game. Once you get past a certain durability threshold it becomes way more effective to just use combat arts over and over instead of actually playing characters. Lysithea is just the queen of that because she can wield the absurdly powerful magic sword that reduces all combat art cooldowns.
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I fairly unsurprisingly rate Rose Guard lower than Careful Study because the former makes you invincible but the latter allows absolutely anyone to kill everything in a fifty mile radius if they get it. I put that thing on a loving swordmaster Lysithea and she just mowed through a stage. Got like 300 kills inside 2 minutes easy.
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Natural 20 posted:I fairly unsurprisingly rate Rose Guard lower than Careful Study because the former makes you invincible but the latter allows absolutely anyone to kill everything in a fifty mile radius if they get it. Careful Study was my choice for Shez because turning into a human buzzsaw goes a loooooong way with her.
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Jul 2, 2022 22:11
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Dark Knight Hubert is up there too. Using Dark Lance juiced up with a mage staff and buffs from Dark Mage/Bishop will cover every enemy on screen with his maxed out spikes. Once he gets the actual Dark Spikes spell, instantly executing any cavalry unit he comes across is also very doable
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I've hit that point in a Warriors Hard Mode difficulty curve when you stop struggling and start winning. S-ranks can still be tight but everything feels way too easy on Normal now. Couple of +15 weapons, targeting super-effective against units, things melt. I have Felix as a Dark Mage with an armor/cavalry-targeting tome and all I have to do it point him at a target and it's time to pick another. Which is great because in this chapter 3/4 of every map seems to be armor and cavalry.
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Ugh. Missed the window for the Edelgard+Ferdinand support by not using Ferdinand enough. I hate it when they make it easy to do that.
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Another thing about Lorenz's Rose thing is whether you have it on shez or lysithea or whoever you can run all the life-drain/low hp skills along with it and not have to worry about the downside whatsoever And don't downplay the actual offensive ability of the tornados it makes, its as serviceable of a crowd control tool/juggle extender as anything else
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If you are not giving the whistle to Byleth so you can give ZA WARUDO to whoever needs it I don’t know what to tell you
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So this is interesting. I just got Lorenz and Constance's C support after doing their paralogue and Lorenz actually references their competition in dialogue.
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mabels big day posted:Another thing about Lorenz's Rose thing is whether you have it on shez or lysithea or whoever you can run all the life-drain/low hp skills along with it and not have to worry about the downside whatsoever Yeah, this is another really important benefit of being invincible. You can freely stack literally every "do more damage but take more damage/take damage when you swing/do more damage when at low hp" stuff with zero fear. Clawtopsy posted:If you are not giving the whistle to Byleth so you can give ZA WARUDO to whoever needs it I don’t know what to tell you I saved my whistle for the entire game to see what Byleth had to offer, got Byleth, went "that looks cool as gently caress!", then used Byleth's skill a bunch and went "well, somehow they managed to make a time freeze skill weak rear end garbage, that's disappointing", and gave my whistle to Holst.
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If you either give Felix Yuri's crest item, or give Yuri Felix's whistle item, and then make them a dancer, all three attack and movement speed buffs stack and you become sanic.
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Smh at people giving whistles for gameplay rather than for love since they're the closest thing the game has to it.
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Yeah Lorenz and Sylvain may be OP but they will never get my platonic friendship whistle.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Smh at people giving whistles for gameplay rather than for love since they're the closest thing the game has to it. Holst and Lorenz are two of my favorite characters in the entire game, so I'm not seeing a downside.
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Kanos posted:Holst and Lorenz are two of my favorite characters in the entire game, so I'm not seeing a downside. Oh yeah, as a Holst fan 0 objections to people picking for love that also happen to be OP. Best of both worlds!
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Theres dancers in the game??????
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mabels big day posted:Theres dancers in the game?????? I never unlocked them on AG but very late game in GW it was a reward for completing a side area. There's tons of stuff that's not only hidden but hidden in a weird way that doesn't make sense. Like getting Blutgang has nothing to do with Marianne at all, you get it by S-ranking a late game story mission in GW. 
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Clawtopsy posted:If you are not giving the whistle to Byleth so you can give ZA WARUDO to whoever needs it I don’t know what to tell you 
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Welp GW down, some thoughts: way better than AG at least, even if I don't like that it also ends inconclusively. Still this one managed to have Dimitri and Edelgard both come out unscathed while Claude actually got to be the character everybody said he was back in Three Houses. Also funnily enough for "Golden Wildfire" the epilogue crawl implies that there is potential for this to be sort of a golden ending: all the lords are alive, Rhea is dead and the central church is toast, and Claude is trying to broker a peace. I gave my whistle to Holst and his ending letter also talks about how the world is now in an age of societal revolution and he's excited to help build the new world. That said the slithers were not fully addressed this go around so they will presumably continue to gently caress things up. Good stuff, left a way better taste in my mouth and now I'm hyped to play SB. e. Also I did F!Shez in AG and M!Shez in GW, and unlike Houses where I thought both Byleths were good in their own way here lady Shez is miles better and it's not even close. His voice acting isn't bad, but the way it sounds combined with his design makes him come off as a massive dweeb, as opposed to F!Shez's cool but sassy. Sydin fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jul 3, 2022 |
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Finished up SB today, I'm trying to choose whether to get Eagles over with since it's my least favorite house or to do Team Claude. Something I really appreciate is just how good the load times are, I've played plenty of games that have camps with fast travel where load times mean you might as well just walk to where you're going but it's near instantaneous in Hopes.
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Male Shez has solid VA imo. Dude seems chill.
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Goddamn Holst vs. Bergliez at the end of GW chapter 7 is so good.
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Small touch I didn't notice while playing the demo but do appreciate is that the reason Edelgard trusts Shez even though they have slither powers is because Shez helped her bust Monica out, when any actual slither plant would have tried to stop her. It makes a lot more sense than Dimitri and Claude just kinda shrugging like "eh no biggie." Vincent Van Goatse posted:Goddamn Holst vs. Bergliez at the end of GW chapter 7 is so good. SyntheticPolygon posted:Male Shez has solid VA imo. Dude seems chill. Yeah like I said the voice is fine, it's just got a bit less of an edge to it than Shez's female VA and combined with the male Shez design looking like a budget WSJ protag I have trouble taking him seriously.
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"The female model has an actual character design and the male model looks like an unfinished background NPC" is a problem in a loooot of games and I have no clue why it's so prevalent.
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No matter how you feel about Shez's design I don't think anyone thinks he looks like a background npc.
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