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90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

Eej posted:

Starting off at level 1 as grey plastic and adding a layer of detail with every level up.

It's called name level because it's when you paint their name on the finished base.

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anchorite
Sep 22, 2009
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll swing by my local store and see what they have for individual paints and go from there. I might grab a couple speedpaints (if they have individual bottles... they only list the big set on their website even though they list individual Vallejo paints) and a few standard acrylics and see what I enjoy/what works for my skill level best.

Major Spag
Nov 4, 2012
Feels good to be alive: XPost from Heresy central.

Major Spag posted:

If the Heresy train HAD breaks, they'd never work anyway because the mechanicum doesn't perform the right chants.





The who squad

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

anchorite posted:

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll swing by my local store and see what they have for individual paints and go from there. I might grab a couple speedpaints (if they have individual bottles... they only list the big set on their website even though they list individual Vallejo paints) and a few standard acrylics and see what I enjoy/what works for my skill level best.

Not sure if people mentioned it to you but also a spray can primer, or at least brush on primer if you're in a very cold/ rainy climate is good. Speed paints need a white or at least a bright, light colour undercoat to work. They tint the surface colour somewhat, then pool in the recesses to make darker shadows. I have no dog in the fight but people often swear by cheaper automotive primer as hobby stuff is generally a bit better but a lot pricier.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
The best way to describe transparent paints like Contrast or Speedpaints is that they "Add Colour". Here's an image from the Army Painter Speedpaints website to illustrate what a zenithal prime is.



Left is just a model primed black. If you put Contrast/Speedpaint it would all be one colour. On the right is that model after having white sprayed from above (to simulate sunlight) which whitens the top the most and leaves the underside shadowed. It's a very simple process because as long as you're spraying white from the same direction (angled or directly above) you'll produce this gradient. When you then put Contrast or Speedpaints on top the top parts that would be receiving light would be a brighter colour and the bottom parts which are grey or black will be a darker colour.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.
Just finished my first witchseeker


Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I like it! I feel that adding some highlights to the purple (tint with white or pink?) would help it to stand out!

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Am I correct in assuming that "glazey" paints like GW Contrasts or AP Speedpaints will behave normally on Reaper Bones minis (the original type, if it matters) that have been primed with e.g. Vallejo airbrush primer?

Winklebottom
Dec 19, 2007





i like to imagine the squig making pacman sounds

Winklebottom fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jul 4, 2022

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

Pierzak posted:

Am I correct in assuming that "glazey" paints like GW Contrasts or AP Speedpaints will behave normally on Reaper Bones minis (the original type, if it matters) that have been primed with e.g. Vallejo airbrush primer?

I don't see why not. There is nothing special about GW's contrast primer that makes contrast work, the primer just has to be a bright off-white. I used contrast with spray painted primer all the time.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Geisladisk posted:

I don't see why not. There is nothing special about GW's contrast primer that makes contrast work, the primer just has to be a bright off-white. I used contrast with spray painted primer all the time.

Doesn't contrast primer have some gloss varnish in it, to let the contrast paints flow a little better?

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Geisladisk posted:

I don't see why not. There is nothing special about GW's contrast primer that makes contrast work, the primer just has to be a bright off-white. I used contrast with spray painted primer all the time.

What I was asking was if the paint-hating properties of bonesium disappear after priming to allow me to use contrast/speedpaints on Bones minis.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Pierzak posted:

What I was asking was if the paint-hating properties of bonesium disappear after priming to allow me to use contrast/speedpaints on Bones minis.

Yeah, once you've primed you arent painting on plastic any more, but on the primer, so everything should behave more or less the same as it always does over your primer.

chin up everything sucks posted:

Doesn't contrast primer have some gloss varnish in it, to let the contrast paints flow a little better?

If it does the effect is subtle enough that I cant tell the difference.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Winklebottom posted:





i like to imagine the squig making pacman sounds

I suddenly really need to see someone paint a bright yellow Squig being chased by four Nighthaunt painted red, orange, baby blue and pink.

Alternatively, they can all be navy blue and the Squig is chasing them.

AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jul 4, 2022

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

chin up everything sucks posted:

Doesn't contrast primer have some gloss varnish in it, to let the contrast paints flow a little better?

IIRC, the original primers GW put out for use with Contrast paints reportedly had a more satin-y finish to them, so that the paints would flow off the high points like they would on a glossy undercoat, but still "stain" the undercoat as they would on a matte finish. So basically you could make just about any light color an undercoat for Contrast, if you put a satin varnish over it first.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Sydney Bottocks posted:

IIRC, the original primers GW put out for use with Contrast paints reportedly had a more satin-y finish to them, so that the paints would flow off the high points like they would on a glossy undercoat, but still "stain" the undercoat as they would on a matte finish. So basically you could make just about any light color an undercoat for Contrast, if you put a satin varnish over it first.

This would be the stuff I picked up then. And then only used once. I just airbrush a satin varnish on if I want to use contrast paint these days.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

Winklebottom posted:





i like to imagine the squig making pacman sounds

I just love your night gobbo paint scheme, it's so slick :O

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Not quite Attack the Block, but looks great anyway.

Winklebottom
Dec 19, 2007

AndyElusive posted:

I suddenly really need to see someone paint a bright yellow Squig being chased by four Nighthaunt painted red, orange, baby blue and pink.

Alternatively, they can all be navy blue and the Squig is chasing them.
Well now I want to do this at some point

lilljonas posted:

I just love your night gobbo paint scheme, it's so slick :O
thanks!

90s Cringe Rock posted:

Not quite Attack the Block, but looks great anyway.
That was pretty much my inspiration for it. Didn't go whole hog and covered it with fur though.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Thanks guys. And I'm so stealing the satin varnished primer trick.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

Professor Shark posted:

I like it! I feel that adding some highlights to the purple (tint with white or pink?) would help it to stand out!

I dont feel like im at that level yet, im still working on painting within the lines and getting enough paint on without it being too thick lol. I'd say after this lot of prosecutors i'll be confident enough to try more adcanced techniques.

Winklebottom posted:





i like to imagine the squig making pacman sounds

I like it, how did you decide what colour scheme to go with? Ive got like 3 squiggs to paint but have stalled because i just cannot decide on how to paint them.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007



Idk what chapter this is and don't care but it looks cool

Took about 2 hours

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

Third Street Saints

Placentaur
Jan 17, 2009

It’s pretty close to Extinction Angels, which I only know because it’s firmly in the “so bad it’s good” category of chapter/warband names

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
Just a spikey boy squad leader.



First time doing OSL, tried to just get light placement right.

Winklebottom
Dec 19, 2007

My Spirit Otter posted:

I like it, how did you decide what colour scheme to go with? Ive got like 3 squiggs to paint but have stalled because i just cannot decide on how to paint them.

I think my thought process was something like, I want to do a deep sea creature-ish scheme, but my grots are already pale so perhaps something fluorescent -> think of fluorescent/glowing creatures -> oh hey the Attack The Block aliens were really neat with the glowing mouths. Then I tried it out on the squigs that came with Zarbags Gitz.

If you paint sufficiently thin layers, you can always paint over it, so just try whatever comes to mind.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Eej posted:

Just a spikey boy squad leader.



First time doing OSL, tried to just get light placement right.

There's so much to love about this IDK where to start :stwoon:

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I’m too much of a coward to dirty up the boots of my mens, even though it looks awesome on models I see online

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Professor Shark posted:

I’m too much of a coward to dirty up the boots of my mens, even though it looks awesome on models I see online

If you use weathering powders (either specialist bought ones or crushed up chalk pastels) as a final step (post varnishing) you can pretty much just wipe them off if you dont like the effect.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Hey do I need to know anything special about hardware store rattlecan primers? Do they need longer curing times compared to Army Painter or anything?

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Siivola posted:

Hey do I need to know anything special about hardware store rattlecan primers? Do they need longer curing times compared to Army Painter or anything?

No, pretty much identical to use!

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

SiKboy posted:

No, pretty much identical to use!
Fantastic, thanks! Time to buy the cheapest poo poo out there and get back into this hobby.

Edit: "Back", as if I ever painted for fun. Time to change that!

Siivola fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Jul 5, 2022

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

I do actually like the "chaos black" spraycan by citadel but there's not much in that can it seems

krylon white spraycan is trash though

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Krylon’s Ultra Flat Camouflage Black is amazing after using terrible whites and fine to okay greys for years

I wish they made a true grey for their line

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I was reminded that I need some new primer and just discovered Hammered Finish primers. They look cool and I’m curious if anyone has used them before for modelling?

Vaporware
May 22, 2004

Still not here yet.
Are the spraycans better about thick coats than they were 10 years ago?

I tried some krylon and automotive primer back then and they were about 3x thicker than I wanted, so I never went back to the try again later

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I do 1 to 2 second bursts with a “wiping” motion and move all around the model

Sometimes I’ll overdo it and there will appear to be too much that dries fine, though I have had experience where I had to remove the primer

TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.


Eej posted:

Just a spikey boy squad leader.



First time doing OSL, tried to just get light placement right.

The bone color for the armor is rad. Cool Chaos skeleton armor man.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

Siivola posted:

Fantastic, thanks! Time to buy the cheapest poo poo out there and get back into this hobby.

Edit: "Back", as if I ever painted for fun. Time to change that!

I find krylon ultra-flat camo black is great. Good coverage and thin coats

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Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

Professor Shark posted:

I was reminded that I need some new primer and just discovered Hammered Finish primers. They look cool and I’m curious if anyone has used them before for modelling?

Nooooooo those textured paints will fill in small details, they're basically a filler primer

Edit: great for props and costumes though

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