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Well, after the 4th? 5th? what feels like billionth? time of my outboard just... dying randomly in positions where I absolutely need it not to die (entering the harbor in 15-20knts of wind, always fun), we decided to replace it. The problem is, we don't need much power. The boat is only about 2600-2700lbs with crew and gear, and our current motor is a 3.5hp 2stroke from the 70's. I've cleaned the carb, changed everything on it that doesn't require completely rebuilding the engine, etc, and it still won't idle / run at low RPM, always smokes like a banshee on startup, is loud as poo poo, is surprisingly heavy for a 2stroke, etc. Running it in the harbor is an exercise in flipping from in gear back to neutral to keep speeds low enough. Add in that it's heavy enough and the pull cord rough enough that my wife can't really manhandle it onto the transom or start it herself, and fixing it just isn't worth it. The lightweight 4 strokes available today are still 45+lbs, and those ones don't have a reverse gear - you have to spin the entire motor around, which doesn't work with our boat. Okay, the smallest with a reverse is like 4hp, but weighs 55+lbs dry, which my wife won't be able to handle, and she wants to be able to go out for a sail with her friends. What to do you ask? Turns out, electric outboards are a realistic thing for our use case. I've ordered an ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 Plus, which is a 1kW (3hp equivalent, though how they determine that I don't know) with an ~1200Wh battery pack. It's ~45lbs, but the battery pops off the top (~25lbs?) and then you pull the motor itself off, so nice and easy. It should be able to do 4 knts at full tilt, and has ~1H 10min run time at that speed. Dropping to 25% throttle should get 2knts @ 10+ hours. Given that we'll need it for all of about 10 minutes out of and into the harbor, I don't have range concerns. They make a version that we could leave the prop in the water and recharge the battery when under sail, but given we do a decent amount of racing the motor will just be stowed during that time so we didn't go for that feature. Love how it handles reverse - twist the throttle one way for forward, the opposite for reverse. It should be here in a week and a half or so - can't wait. I'm excited to not have gas onboard anymore.
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https://margaritavilleatsea.com/ This appears to be a, not really sure, I think Jimmy Buffett is still alive, so not dancing on his grave, but, a little piece of me died inside seeing some promotional video for this cruise ship That is all
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As long as Jimmy's getting paid, I guess. When a pirate looks at 80 he's gotta think about his retirement
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Hadlock posted:I went down a rabbit hole recently and ran across this, Anker "portable generator" (it's a battery) 545, 778wh thing While it is good to know how many margs you will get out of an appliance, you can get a 1000w inverter for less than $200 so assuming you already have batteries this seems silly. My current lithium battery setup isn't really ready to push the 80a I'd need to run my Ninja though so it stays at home and I shave a drink at a time. Better ice consistency than any home blender will give you anyway~
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Hadlock posted:https://margaritavilleatsea.com/ He is literally a billionaire due to all of his restaurants and other ventures
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Jul 4, 2022 23:56
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Wow I had no idea he was within spitting distance of Paul McCartney Beatles wealth status, that is crazy 
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Hadlock posted:Wow I had no idea he was within spitting distance of Paul McCartney Beatles wealth status, that is crazy Boomers have tremendous spending power.
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Anyone have recommendations for a temporary over-the-side ladder to help get swimmers back in a wakeboat? I have a swim platform but there is one member of my family that really has a lot of difficulty using it. I was planning on installing a a telescoping ladder that mounts under the swim platform but the repair guy at the marina strongly advised me not to as "they're lovely and dont work"
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If it's just for one summer, two lengths of 3/8" rope knotted at 18" intervals, and then go grab a 10' section of 1x4 oak and trim it into 7 x 16.5" sections, with 3/8" holes on either side, with the holes reamed/wallered out slightly Pine is cheaper and might work but if they're heavy enough to need a ladder, might need to upgrade to 2x4 (1.5x3.25) Without the wood the rope collapses and your foot gets stuck/pinched The problem with non-swim ladders is that when you put your weight on them, your wrist is the pivot point and your whole body wants to pivot under them/under the boat. This doesn't make any sense but the first time you try it, you'll understand PVC tubing supposedly works too but seems janky as gently caress, never tried that. Lots of boats have wooden plank rope ladders stuffed deep in the lazarette though Hadlock fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Jul 5, 2022 |
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The downside to rope boarding ladders is they don’t stand off the hull. If your hull has a lot of flare it’s not a big deal, but a newer slab-sided Beneteau is going to be a challenge because the next rung is plastered against the hull. We have one of these cheapos and it’s fine, has successfully rescued a few people from the bay over the years, and folds flat for easy stowage.
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Hadlock posted:https://margaritavilleatsea.com/ My mom and her ex-husband almost bought a lot in a Margaritaville 55+ community in Florida. I'm glad they didn't. https://www.latitudemargaritaville.com/  I mean, hell, get paid Jimmy. Fleece those boomers for all they've got. First Time Caller posted:Anyone have recommendations for a temporary over-the-side ladder to help get swimmers back in a wakeboat? I have a swim platform but there is one member of my family that really has a lot of difficulty using it. I've got one of those telescoping ladders on the swim platform on my 17' Scout, and it works well enough. The big deal is being able to mount it properly. I was able to through bolt mine with a plate on the backside to ensure that it stays in place, and not relying on screws or toggle anchors. n0tqu1tesane fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Jul 6, 2022 |
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n0tqu1tesane posted:My mom and her ex-husband almost bought a lot in a Margaritaville 55+ community in Florida. I'm glad they didn't. This sounds like the next "the villages" swingers retiree homestead I had just assumed his musical career began and ended with "Margaritaville" and a handful of others, simply because nobody in my friend/age group had ever heard of the guy Mildly curious if his net worth is enough to buy every parcel of land in key west
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Hadlock posted:This sounds like the next "the villages" swingers retiree homestead you're thinking of Miami ("made enough money to buy Miami / But I pissed it away so fast") and probably not since he has to compete with the mob
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Hadlock posted:This sounds like the next "the villages" swingers retiree homestead I mean, if you're not friends with a bunch of boomer parrot heads, or live in his hometown/graduated from his HS alma mater like I do, I don't blame you for not knowing much about him. 
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I decided I'm finally gonna stop putting it off and go take sailing lessons at Cal Sailing Club. Unfortunately I decided that when my next two weekends are booked with loving weddings, but EVENTUALLY I'll be capsizing myself in the filthy waters of the San Francisco Bay.
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They’ve cleaned up a lot over the last couple decades. Still cold af though.
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First Time Caller posted:Anyone have recommendations for a temporary over-the-side ladder to help get swimmers back in a wakeboat? I have a swim platform but there is one member of my family that really has a lot of difficulty using it. The under platform ones tend to rip out of the fiberglass and do in fact suck.
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Today I decided to clean out gunk from the pre-filter on the freshwater pump. I opened it and immediately learned two things. 1: when the tanks are full really quite a lot of water pours out there, and 2: don't lose the gasket if you wanna stop the flood. Probably 50L of water in the bilge before i found the gasket and got it back together. So most of my evening was wasted on mopping that all up. Live and learn.
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Well this sure is interesting.....People must want out of Cuba really bad, this boat looks like it was hobbled together in less than a day https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=5443253269059699&set=pcb.5443255095726183
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The water there is about 75-80 degrees so the trick is to build something resembling a sturdy pool float that can drift 90 miles over 72 hours to get within swimming distance of key west. The biggest risk is heatstroke and dehydration, not drowning or hypothermia I forget but I think the loophole says if you make it to dry land you can legally apply for asylum, so the coast guard picks up people in the water and returns them back to their island without going to land first. Or something like that
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I live in Florida so I know all about that part, I'm just kind of amazed at the ingenuity because people in Cuba don't have poo poo to work with yet they managed to get a diesel engine into a boat made of styrofoam pieces
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Well this sure is interesting.....People must want out of Cuba really bad, this boat looks like it was hobbled together in less than a day There's a lot of ingenuity that goes into making rafts to escape Cuba. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/fl-cuban-rafts-on-display-and-preserved-20170120-story.html
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Yeah when safety and efficiency and lifespan of your, erm, vessel is not a factor in construction and there is sufficient desperation you can honestly make anything work. Like, if you have 4 of those little battery powered hand fans and plastic bags you can no doubt make a workable motor or some poo poo.
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Oh I just saw another video, yeah that's like a 10hp diesel, impressive I was reading the other day, fishermen are elated that the government is going to allow them up to 10hp gas motors so that they don't have to row everywhere. I guess outboard motors have been banned for years for obvious reasons
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So I got the lithium battery for my dual battery setup. When the engine is running off of it the volt meter was erratic showing 8 to 16 volts when normally it sits steady at 13-14v. I switched back to the stock battery and it went back to normal. I'm guessing the stator doesn't like the lithium battery, does that sound right?
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Any chance a charging circuit (solar, alternator, shore power) was attached Attaching a lifepo4 to a lead acid charging system could result in any number of things, charging a lithium battery is so efficient it can look like the charger is trying to charge a short to ground, to a badly programmed charger, triggering a safety pull back
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I have a smart 2 bank battery charger hooked up to both batteries but being out on the lake, it wasn't plugged in at the time. The lithium battery was fully charged prior to this, so maybe the stator was just trying to keep it topped off?
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Hadlock posted:Oh I just saw another video, yeah that's like a 10hp diesel, impressive They've caught up to 1950's Alaska! https://www.cwb.org/program-boats/admirable
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Does anyone have any good resources on actually installing running rigging? In theory I should have things like a cunningham, reef lines, and an outhaul rigged but my boat has gone through at least 2 owners who had no idea what they were doing, and I only barely have some idea of what I'm doing so I'm having trouble visualizing what needs to happen to get everything installed properly. I have plenty of blocks that in theory should be doing something, but very few places to cleat a line, run a line down the boom to get to my mast, etc. All the main stuff is up and working properly (main sheet, traveller, halyard, boom vang, an extremely improvised and crap outhaul), so it's sailable but not very adjustable, and the inability to put a reef in is limiting when I'm willing to go out at the moment.
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Running rigging on that boat can be as simple or complex as you want to make it depending on your skill and budget. If you have infinity money you can get low friction rings and setup 3d jib cars for better upwind performance Can't find any good pics of the cockpit of a mirage 27 but looks like your main sheet leads back to the cockpit, either the transom or the companionway, maybe with or without traveler? Cunningham and reefing points are nice to have but not strictly necessary especially in light winds Not all boats come with all features, you can get super racy or super simple, there's no one design class for your boat so you can kind of do whatever. If you want to see what a turbo boat looks like, check out "j/125 hamachi" and copy what they did. But for margarita sailing you don't need a Cunningham Happy to review any ideas you have
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Oh I see what you're asking for I'd go look at a rigging diagram for a j/105, j/70 or melges 20 or 24 or 32, or j/24 Places like harken will have rigging diagrams for the most popular, competitive one designs, defender.com probably has copies too Since your boat has a symetric Spinnaker I'd look at the J/24 as a model for tweakable running rigging. A well setup j/24 ought to have both main and jib Cunningham. I would not copy their janky Sanchez block for the jib personally The j/70 is basically a scaled down version of the j/105 rigging, but they both have asymmetric spinnakers and retractable bow spirit which isn't applicable to your boat, but otherwise they represent a really simple but effective layout that is so good it hasn't changed in 30 years https://www.harken.com/en/support/one-design-deck-layouts/j24/ Edit here's all of them, I guess https://www.harken.com/en/support/one-design-deck-layouts/ Note the part numbers included on the diagrams Any parts for the J/70, 80, 88 ought to be more than bullet proof for your application, the 70 is only 23' but they race them, hard, all day long in SF without equipment failures, should hold up to margarita or even spirited sailing in your area for decades to come Hadlock fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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Any tips on getting sunscreen off black trim and steering wheel?
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For trim, I’ve used meguiars ultimate black to good effect in the past. What’s the steering wheel made of?
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Vinyl, if I had to guess
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two_beer_bishes posted:Any tips on getting sunscreen off black trim and steering wheel? Don't let anything besides coppertone sport 50 on the boat All that expensive women's brand stuff has gobs of lotion in it, and some chemical that breaks down leaving free iron that rusts pink. I had some goons sister in law on our boat, took a full year for hundreds of faint pink handprints to finally weather away
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Hadlock posted:Don't let anything besides coppertone sport 50 on the boat Noted, thanks for the recommendation! Cat Hatter posted:If I was looking at a new boat, I'd look at a Yamaha. In my experience, jet boats are pretty nice to drive and not bad to work on. I had a Sea Doo and to my understanding they're the high strung Italian sports car to Yamaha's Civic R that actually works. Even then, the only real problem I had with the Sea Doo was that most dealerships only work on PWCs. Thanks again for this recommendation, we ended up with a new AR195 and after our fifth outing my wife said "this is the perfect boat" and I told her it was due to a recommendation on a dead gay forum which only brought up more questions but she loves the boat so
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two_beer_bishes posted:Thanks again for this recommendation, we ended up with a new AR195 and after our fifth outing my wife said "this is the perfect boat" and I told her it was due to a recommendation on a dead gay forum which only brought up more questions but she loves the boat so Glad to hear it! When I sold my jetboat for something with more than 4 seats I had to get an I/O to get something with the speed I wanted within my meager budget and I really miss being able to set the reversing bucket to half for docking so I don't have to keep going in/out of gear to modulate speed. My dad lives tucked into a corner on his lake and reversing out of there is remarkably fast even at idle. Plus it was nice not to ever worry about forgetting to fully trim up the outdrive and drag the skeg up the ramp at the boat launch. Also, Protip for anyone with a spouse and trailers their boat: teach them to either drive a trailer down the ramp or a boat onto a trailer. Pretty much every family I ever see has one person that does both and they end up tying up two ramps so one person can stand on the dock holding the boat while the other one goes to get the car.
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Cat Hatter posted:Glad to hear it! When I sold my jetboat for something with more than 4 seats I had to get an I/O to get something with the speed I wanted within my meager budget and I really miss being able to set the reversing bucket to half for docking so I don't have to keep going in/out of gear to modulate speed. My dad lives tucked into a corner on his lake and reversing out of there is remarkably fast even at idle. Plus it was nice not to ever worry about forgetting to fully trim up the outdrive and drag the skeg up the ramp at the boat launch. My wife has been maneuvering our horse trailer for years so she's the trailer pro in our family. You're right that it's so much easier with two people. She's gotten some comments at the launch from other guys saying they're envious that she's able to do it so well.
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Don't know if I mentioned it here yet but I got my first boat a few months ago, and having a ton of fun with it so far. 14' Rabco skiff, tri hull, super stable and will float in a puddle 
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