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Hawkins Strong!
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 23:32 |
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Captain Monkey posted:To add to the image posting.. Tag yourself. I'm the bird guy chilling underground on the right.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 23:33 |
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M_Gargantua posted:You could have El or possibly Professor maX ascend to anti-upside down, and shape that into a force for good like 001 shaped the upside down. Probably would be dumb but would at least be unexpected. Re the first part, they could do that, but then that has to be the game ender. Once they get to anti-upside down and get powered up, that has to be the end of all the tension I think. But this world is more like Warhammer 40k (or so many others), where you have random humans with psychic powers that can fight the demons and the evil/chaos gods, but they don't get any help from good gods or angels, because there are none. It's just the material plane and the warp/upside down. There's never any corresponding good dimension. Regarding the second part, despite some of the crew's success in defeating the demons with mortal weapons over the course of the series, it's been repeatedly shown that even a single demon dog is completely unmanageable by a modern military. It would feel weird if the military was suddenly effective enough to control any kind of incursion. Especially as serious a one that we appear to have now. But don't get me wrong, I'd like to see either (or both).
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 23:58 |
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RVT posted:Re the first part, they could do that, but then that has to be the game ender. Once they get to anti-upside down and get powered up, that has to be the end of all the tension I think. But this world is more like Warhammer 40k (or so many others), where you have random humans with psychic powers that can fight the demons and the evil/chaos gods, but they don't get any help from good gods or angels, because there are none. It's just the material plane and the warp/upside down. There's never any corresponding good dimension. You're probably right concerning the show's established cosmology, but I am bored with grimdark. Thematically speaking, though, in DnD gaining access to higher planar allies doesn't mean the game is over...it just means the Dungeon Master can now start throwing the good monsters at you. Do I have the mind of a 80's coke addled Saturday morning cartoon producer and want to see El got full loving Rainbow Brite and ride on the back of a celestial lion? Yes. Absolutely. Per your second observation: small arms does gently caress all against Demogorgans and Demodogs. This is true. If poo poo got bad enough, the Air Force will come in with the fast movers and Vecna and can do gently caress all against a full-air bomb.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 00:23 |
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No more eyeballs always makes me lol
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 00:38 |
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Marsupial Ape posted:You're probably right concerning the show's established cosmology, but I am bored with grimdark. Thematically speaking, though, in DnD gaining access to higher planar allies doesn't mean the game is over...it just means the Dungeon Master can now start throwing the good monsters at you. Do I have the mind of a 80's coke addled Saturday morning cartoon producer and want to see El got full loving Rainbow Brite and ride on the back of a celestial lion? Yes. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean I loved Diablo 3 cause the "good" guys finally started really helping out. Not that it's the height of story telling or anything, but you just so rarely see that. Or the movie Legion, and then the TV show that follows it up, I forget what it's called. But you can have both sides and if you make the good side still kinda hosed up, or too prideful to be smart, you can keep things kinda interesting for a bit. But then you either have to make the main characters as powerful as those guys (Diablo 3 approach), or tell a smaller, lower power story within the greater conflict (Legion, etc). Not quite as familiar with DnD stuff, but I imagine you'd still have to use one of those two approaches. Kinda like Star Wars, either it's Jedi vs Sith story, or it's a regular people vs regular people story. If a Jedi shows up, then whichever side he is on auto wins. But you get what I mean, and none of this is ever happening in ST, so I'll let it drop. It would be so cool though.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 00:59 |
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live with fruit posted:Is Wuthering Heights not her biggest song? At least up until six weeks ago. Yes. Kate Bush got a UK number 1 with her debut single in 1978 when she was still in her teens. Running Up That Hill was her second chart-topper - but it didn't get there until this year, having peaked at 3 on its initial release and 6 when a remix was released in 2012. Her gap of 44 years between UK number 1 hits is the longest ever; she also became the oldest female artist to top the UK charts. The song itself also set the record for the longest time taken from initial release to reach number 1, at 37 years.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 01:20 |
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WTF the Netflix Merch store won't ship Hellfire Club shirts to Canada? Well that's just loving dumb and disappointing.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 01:21 |
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Speaking of art https://twitter.com/kylelambert/status/1544026230965428224?s=21&t=yFfMeNbAYeFJJibkBcv1bg Zero One fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jul 6, 2022 |
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Lamont posted:hah found it, knew I didn't just make this poo poo up: Whoever designed that was either a masterful troll or incredibly mentally broken. Probably both. Marsupial Ape posted:You're probably right concerning the show's established cosmology, but I am bored with grimdark. Thematically speaking, though, in DnD gaining access to higher planar allies doesn't mean the game is over...it just means the Dungeon Master can now start throwing the good monsters at you. Do I have the mind of a 80's coke addled Saturday morning cartoon producer and want to see El got full loving Rainbow Brite and ride on the back of a celestial lion? Yes. Absolutely. The kids get celestial rings of power which turn them into Care Bears. Meanwhile there is always bigger guns. Just the guns behave with 80's logic, they deal plot damage when wielded by protagonists and no damage when wielded by mob characters.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 01:35 |
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https://twitter.com/Lie_chee/status/1544383819956068360
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 01:55 |
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JFC
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 02:03 |
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M_Gargantua posted:Whoever designed that was either a masterful troll or incredibly mentally broken. Probably both. If this series doesn't end with all the kids plus Suzie performing a group Care Bear Stare, then gently caress this poo poo, the Duffers ruined by childhood.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 02:43 |
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CainFortea posted:I hope S5 cuts to Lucas just hazzing the poo poo out of the basketball team all the time. Nah he'll make them all play D&D as a team-building exercise, they'll loving love it, and he'll use it as cover to introduce the Upside-Down to them and teach them how to fight demodogs and demogorgons and poo poo. The team breaks up after a particularly fierce game of Labyrinth. Also, was I the only one screaming at El to take the goddamn collar and detonator with her when Papa died? Cuz that would've been very handy against Vecna.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 03:17 |
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Oracle posted:Also, was I the only one screaming at El to take the goddamn collar and detonator with her when Papa died? Cuz that would've been very handy against Vecna. Nah, man. Can't bring physical objects with you into the mind battles. Upside down? Sure. But piggyback battle inside Max's mind? No dice.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 03:35 |
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LiterallyATomato posted:Nah, man. Can't bring physical objects with you into the mind battles. Then why weren't they naked.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 03:44 |
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Oracle posted:Then why weren't they naked. Other than the obvious, would say as it's just a projection of their mind, that's how their mind is visualizing itself at that moment.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 03:50 |
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Slayerjerman posted:El's scenes and wardrobe were strange in the last episode. It was like they were pointing out that she's a woman now with the comparison to her younger self, especially with her floating in the salt tub surrounded by boys. The camera framing was constantly on her chest... My wife was like wtf going on with this scene? Boobs. But they can’t make that work with Will—that haircut has the opposite effect. The Eleven thing was probably something nobody noticed in time and then decided the best thing was to ignore it, like the dick outlines in Tron. Just have everybody act normally and with dignity and your drama can keep going.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 03:54 |
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Regarding that outfit, this doesn't address everything mentioned, but I kind of felt like they were trying to inspire cosplays and what not a la Eggo Hospital gown El. I can totally see this Halloween people dressing up with a floral shirt, khakis, and some pizza glasses. The outfit itself is relatively simple too. She was wearing the same clothes in the 2 days later follow up as well, which first off ew, but it also reinforces that concept in my mind.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 04:34 |
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All that Kate Bush talk last page and no mention of Babooshka? Sure it's definitely one of those songs where people don't pay attention to the lyrics of the verses (but they should because it's a wonderful tale of "gently caress around and find out"*), but it's a banger and the music video is delightfully bonkers. *It's basically Escape (the pina colada song) but with a tragic rather than lighthearted denouement.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 04:41 |
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I definitely think we’ll see some Dustin/Patrick Swayze ghillie-suit-and-hoodie getups this Halloween, and some Maya Hawke commando gear—the beret especially.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 04:54 |
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Oracle posted:Then why weren't they naked. They're children you weirdo.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 04:59 |
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LiterallyATomato posted:They're children you weirdo. There was a pretty explicit IT reference in the scene where the balloons in the gym pop and are full of blood. I’m glad that’s the only one, honestly.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 05:07 |
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Apparently Kate Bush has made about 2.5 million dollars from streaming alone since she owns all the copyrights to her songs.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 05:08 |
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She also broke 3 Guiness World Records
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 05:19 |
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Good for her, great song and well deserved! Also, there is probably an incredible amount of 80's bands that are extreamly jealous right now, and desperately hoping one of there songs is included in the 5th season.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 06:45 |
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A bit on the nose but noticed how Vecna (when he was 'half' transformed, wandering around the upside down) had one blind eye, and of course has the hosed up hand. Vecna, indeed. They could have fixed Eddie by having Dustin fall while escaping and injure himself, and be unable to get away, and having Eddie make the bats chase him in order to save Dustin. Instead he just kinda... rides off and dies for no reason?
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 08:20 |
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The simple greatness of Will's painting, which anyone who knows what love is will understand*, is that apart from the super obvious (super adorable) stuff explained in the dialogue, it's just an updated version of his earlier drawing of the original party, with himself reinstated as wizard and El spun out into supposed commissioner of the painting. To unpack that, back in season 2 , Mike mentions to Max that El is their wizard and Will is their cleric. I'm sure at some point Will had to hear Mike's new vision of the party. I think when a new season of ST is good it lets you see the old seasons in a different light, maybe even feel like a new direction it's taking the show was secretly there all along. S2 did that for me, S3 didn't, and S4 is starting to in a big way, and I bet it totally would with full a rewatch. The show's gotten long and I just don't have the time for a full rewatch anytime soon, maybe before S5, but this is a good example. Sure back then I got that Will didn't much like having his spot in his circle of friends taken by someone he hadn't yet met or cared for as a friend/sister, but it went over my head then (rightly, way back then, I'd argue) that clerics are, you know, generally supposed to be celibate. *I'm sure #1 Will favorite song must still be Should I Stay or Should I Go, but that Black Mirror one sure fits the bill now. Vecna's (and Mike's?) favorite song is Johanna from Sweeney Todd. Click to explain/ruin the joke or for beautiful love-at-first-sight song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yFPYFcVZfE Onomarchus fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Jul 6, 2022 |
# ? Jul 6, 2022 09:18 |
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Kaedric posted:They could have fixed Eddie by having Dustin fall while escaping and injure himself, and be unable to get away, and having Eddie make the bats chase him in order to save Dustin. Instead he just kinda... rides off and dies for no reason? Eddie doesn't have perfect knowledge of what else is happening. All he knows is that the longer he can keep the bats distracted, the more chance of success Steven, Nancy, and Robin have. He chose to do the risky thing to give them even more of a chance.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 18:12 |
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Yeah I thought it was a fine writing choice. Eddie was fighting an internal battle as much as an external one, and he wanted to prove his worth to himself. It's good character development and as much as it sucks to lose him on the show, his arc was "complete" and made good sense.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 18:22 |
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Yeah I thought it was a fine writing choice. Eddie was fighting an internal battle as much as an external one, and he wanted to prove his worth to himself. It's good character development and as much as it sucks to lose him on the show, his arc was "complete" and made good sense. Yeah, he knew that defending the trailer wasn't going to work, and had a moment of realizing that going back through the gateway would be the same as running again.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 18:27 |
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Also, I thought the scene with Dustin and Eddie's uncle at the end fell really flat when it absolutely shouldn't have. I don't know if it was Dustin's actor, the writing, or both, but what should have been a pretty powerful scene really bombed. Maybe it was partially due to the extremely fake limp the actor was told to have? I don't know but I was pretty disappointed.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 18:31 |
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Noam Chomsky posted:Tag yourself. I'm the bird guy chilling underground on the right. That's an owlbear and they're magical ok!
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 18:38 |
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Iron Crowned posted:
It's a shame he hadn't been around to play proper video games a decade or two later. He could've employed advanced kiting techniques to bait those bats back and forth with the guitar.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 19:04 |
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Zero One posted:Speaking of art That Eddie poster is loving SICK.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 19:24 |
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drat, all of those are rad af
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 19:42 |
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That hairless chest on The Dive poster is shameful.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 20:16 |
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Sockser posted:https://twitter.com/m4stiff/status/1544004145379545089?s=20&t=o9a5BMyCzDr_LjW2fJ1E0A My family did a ST-themed Halloween 3 years ago and my twins were demigorgons for their first Halloween. Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jul 12, 2022 |
# ? Jul 6, 2022 20:28 |
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We watched Stranger Things Part 2 this weekend and I am still confused. Did Vecna/Henry/One mind control the hivemind, merge himself with it somehow, or create the hivemind? Did the hivemind have any intelligence on its own?
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 22:13 |
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CainFortea posted:Eddie doesn't have perfect knowledge of what else is happening. All he knows is that the longer he can keep the bats distracted, the more chance of success Steven, Nancy, and Robin have. He chose to do the risky thing to give them even more of a chance. Yes, from Eddie's perspective it is a fine decision. From a storytelling perspective, less so. Imagine We see Vecna get set on fire and shot and have him disappear, then cut to Eddit making the same choice. Yes, Eddie thinks it is correct (ignore that the bats fall down when Vecna 'dies'), but audience members would all turn and look at each other like 'wtf?'. We can always justify it to ourselves afterwards, but it's sloppy/poor writing for this style of story.
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# ? Jul 6, 2022 22:29 |