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Cimber posted:Thats funny as hell. The thread is filled with them. https://twitter.com/connorxfor/status/1544392864611844099 
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Marshal Prolapse posted:The thread is filled with them. 
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Marshal Prolapse posted:The thread is filled with them. laughed irl
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Ukraine at War: Paving the Road From Survival to Victory Aside from being a really interesting publication, I was really struck by the observation that the Ukrainian army is overweight with technical specialists as a solution to low basic pay and retention, so when they mobilised their units were full of very creative and motivated engineers which is why all over the place you see civilian UAVs custom modified to drop grenades on people showing up.
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Alchenar posted:Ukraine at War: Paving the Road From Survival to Victory Strikes me as analogous to some of the quick innovations at the operational level in World War II, when the large number of non-professional soldiers and officers injected into the military brought a diverse set of skills and backgrounds together. And they were generally much more willing to try creative solutions.
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A follow on: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/v4qk06/ukrainian_macgyver_shows_his_solution_to_firing/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share What strikes me about this video is how it is identical to just about every single training session I've had in the Army that wasn't in a classroom.
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A.o.D. posted:A follow on: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/v4qk06/ukrainian_macgyver_shows_his_solution_to_firing/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share NATO SOF units spent a lot of time training closely with Ukrainian SOF on how to improvise and adapt weapons and how to train their troops to do the same before the invasion, so yeah the teaching methods are likely very similar.
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That would make one hell of a party trick
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Our Analysists have determined that most of our tanks only fire an average of 0.7 rounds per engagement. The egg heads have the right of it and we've decided to use this knowledge to pull one crewmember from each tank.
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As if they wouldn't reduce the ammunition to one round per tank.
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https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1544682639646392321 video game poo poo right here
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Song: I ain’t worried about it  Pilot: I am at treetops in a SU-25 firing unguided rockets on a parabolic trajectory. I am worried about so many things. https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1544446011921268737?s=21&t=RowIn0jxGauIxnbnjS4vTA
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Every time I see the cockpit of an SU-25, I think: "gently caress flying that thing." Granted, A-10s weren't much better until like 2010, but still.
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mlmp08 posted:Song: I ain’t worried about it Christ, flying barely above treetops and in formation? That’s some Star Wars shenanigans 
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Icon Of Sin posted:Christ, flying barely above treetops and in formation? That’s some Star Wars shenanigans plz do not dehumanize russia by calling them the Empire
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The Empire was more functional
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Less genocidal.
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All this talk about running out of ammo or tanks and no one is talking about flares. It looks like a manned aircraft starts popping flares the moment it leaves the deck and you keep making GBS threads them until you get back down. They must be emptying their flare dispensers every mission. Also, given that UA is still successfully flying su-25's this long into the war, I bet they could make good use of our A-10's. They get used for what they were always intended, the air force doesn't have to maintain them anymore, and now there's just that many less enemy tanks in the world. I know there's concerns about their survivability, but I don't think the Ukrainians would complain much if they got them. If they couldn't survive in this war then they'd never survive in any way they were needed and we should retire them. Which we need to do anyways.
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Uncle Enzo posted:All this talk about running out of ammo or tanks and no one is talking about flares. It looks like a manned aircraft starts popping flares the moment it leaves the deck and you keep making GBS threads them until you get back down. They must be emptying their flare dispensers every mission. There was a video from the very first days, when Russia was doing those giant airborne heli assaults. Someone fired a manpads off at one of the helicopters, bunch'a flares start flying, it misses. One chopper just keeps the trigger down, popping flare after flare until it runs out. And promptly got schwacked by another guy with a manpads who was saving it.
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Uncle Enzo posted:All this talk about running out of ammo or tanks and no one is talking about flares. It looks like a manned aircraft starts popping flares the moment it leaves the deck and you keep making GBS threads them until you get back down. They must be emptying their flare dispensers every mission. Spending time and effort to train Ukrainian pilots to fly a not particularly effective plane seems like a bad plan.
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Gaius Marius posted:Spending time and effort to train Ukrainian pilots to fly a not particularly effective plane seems like a bad plan. The Ukrainians seem to be getting a lot of use from less-survivable airframes, I'm not sure the A-10 would be any worse, if not a lot better due to firing a wider range of more modern munitions.
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Uncle Enzo posted:The Ukrainians seem to be getting a lot of use from less-survivable airframes, I'm not sure the A-10 would be any worse, if not a lot better due to firing a wider range of more modern munitions. Logistics and training ground crew might be more of a hurdle to overcome than pilot training.
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A-10 defenders would shriek bloody murder about giving up A-10s to Ukraine. Something something American stereotype about big guns.
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“As the senator from Arizona, I will murder mister Zelensky myself.”
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orange juche posted:A-10 defenders would shriek bloody murder about giving up A-10s to Ukraine. Something something American stereotype about big guns. I am an A-10 defender and they should have them for doing sorties under AAA coverage.
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Why don’t we just sheep dip American pilots anymore? Send those A10s over and give the stick to Brayden-ov Thomas-vich Wellsworth-ski, who was always a Ukrainian why do you ask he just watches a lot of Hollywood movies that‘s why he talks that way
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orange juche posted:A-10 defenders would shriek bloody murder about giving up A-10s to Ukraine. Something something American stereotype about big guns. Seriously though. How long were the Iowas retained for, just in case?
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GD_American posted:Why don’t we just sheep dip American pilots anymore? In the age of the internet it gets real loving hard to sheep-dip pilots and other folks anymore. Last time the US seriously engaged in sheep-dipping was Vietnam right? I guess what is old is new again.
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Fearless posted:Seriously though. How long were the Iowas retained for, just in case? Disregard it was USS Wisconsin and USS New Jersey. Iowa was gone after the gun turret explosion, Missouri followed her after the Gulf War, and the other two were political footballs in congress until 2011. orange juche fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jul 6, 2022 |
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CainFortea posted:I am an A-10 defender and they should have them for doing sorties under AAA coverage. That's not a thing on anything close to a modern battlefield. Whether territory under Russian control qualifies is now debatable, which is still loving insane when I think about it.
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orange juche posted:A-10 defenders would shriek bloody murder about giving up A-10s to Ukraine. Something something American stereotype about big guns. Look at it this way, it would be a convenient way for the Air Force to divest themselves of the A-10. Give them all to Ukraine, cite the immediate need for CAS against Russia. This way the Ukrainians might get some good service out of them, and if they all get shot down, then the Air Force doesn't have to worry about maintaining them anymore.
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Scuffy_1989 posted:Look at it this way, it would be a convenient way for the Air Force to divest themselves of the A-10. Give them all to Ukraine, cite the immediate need for CAS against Russia. This way the Ukrainians might get some good service out of them, and if they all get shot down, then the Air Force doesn't have to worry about maintaining them anymore. Or a good way to prove that the CAS role is still needed and a10s are still needed. Logistics issues mean it won't happen, but it would be a good Clancy novel plotline for the US to give all the hogs to Ukraine and have some fleet of 60mm guns with wings show up out of nowhere to fill the gap.
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If wanting to hear the GAU-8 roaring in defiance is wrong I don't wanna be right
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Scuffy_1989 posted:Look at it this way, it would be a convenient way for the Air Force to divest themselves of the A-10. Give them all to Ukraine, cite the immediate need for CAS against Russia. This way the Ukrainians might get some good service out of them, and if they all get shot down, then the Air Force doesn't have to worry about maintaining them anymore. Until that Warthog goes Ham with its Gau-8 on a column of tanks while shrugging off Strelas, Osa’s and buks and goes barrel rolling off into the sunset. Then their Air Force is going to have so many A-10s they’re going to be known and the Hog Force for the next 50 years.
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Just Another Lurker posted:Logistics and training ground crew might be more of a hurdle to overcome than pilot training. Agreed but the A-10 is on record as having some of the lowest maintenance costs across the USAF fleet, at $6K/hr, which is lower than the F-16's $8.2K/hr or mudhen's $21.3K/hr. https://fighterjetsworld.com/air/maintenance-operating-costs-per-flight-hour-of-militarys-fighter-jets/11995/ Yes there's training but in terms of ability to support it should be better than other airframes.
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Godholio posted:That's not a thing on anything close to a modern battlefield. Treetops are still good-ish against modern AAA, its just not a reliable defense. There is only so much advanced hardware can do about physics. An A-10 with a modern ECM pod at treetops? Good odds on the A-10
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orange juche posted:A-10 defenders would shriek bloody murder about giving up A-10s to Ukraine. Something something American stereotype about big guns. honestly just take the big gun out and ship them the airframe without it, let the Ukrainians strap even more bombs and poo poo to it then issue the GAUs to every one of the a-10 lovers so they can have their own gau to sleep with everyone wins: ukraine gets their planes, the gunfuckers get, uh, their gun Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jul 7, 2022 |
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