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Gologle posted:The Captain America book is really good so far. Both are.
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Got around to reading the Jane Foster Thor book. Despite the comic primarily existing to loosely tie into the movie, it's a decent continuation of the Valkyries book. Did not anticipate them going to Limbo at the end, ie the demon dimension connected to X-Men's Magik, and the cause of the original Inferno crossover.
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The most import thing about that issue was Ratatoskr showing up.
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howe_sam posted:The most import thing about that issue was Ratatoskr showing up. I did make a happy sound upon recognizing Doreen's good friend Rachel Oskar there.
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I fuckn love Moon Knight. Have since the 90s. In the past 10 years he’s had some great runs, and this new one is no different. Such good comics. Oh and that sex criminal guy still writes a good Daredevil.
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Being Daredevil/Matt Murdock's girlfriend has to be the worst fate a woman can have
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Codependent Poster posted:Being Daredevil/Matt Murdock's girlfriend has to be the worst fate a woman can have Black Widow came out of it okay.
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Skwirl posted:Black Widow came out of it okay. Well I mean, she eventually died too. But at least it wasn't because of dating Daredevil... Or was it??
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Joe Fisto posted:Oh and that sex criminal guy still writes a good Daredevil. Be a bit more respectful. It's the Howard the Duck/Sex Criminals guy
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Jul 14, 2022 22:05
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Joe Fisto posted:I fuckn love Moon Knight. Have since the 90s. In the past 10 years he’s had some great runs, and this new one is no different. Such good comics. I am going through the complete Moon Knight reading list but ended up dipping into the new series anyway and yeah it's really good.
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I read Marvel Boy. The miniseries itself isn’t amazing because it’s all set up, but I love what it set up. A hero who genuinely doesn’t like humanity but is going to save us because it’s his job, and his definition of saving us may be broader than we would like. And his girlfriend/sidekick is a former supervillain. As in she stopped being a supervillain five minutes ago during an argument with her dad. That’s great! Where can I read the continuation of Marvel Boy’s story?
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Gripweed posted:I read Marvel Boy. The miniseries itself isn’t amazing because it’s all set up, but I love what it set up. A hero who genuinely doesn’t like humanity but is going to save us because it’s his job, and his definition of saving us may be broader than we would like. And his girlfriend/sidekick is a former supervillain. As in she stopped being a supervillain five minutes ago during an argument with her dad. That’s great! Where can I read the continuation of Marvel Boy’s story? You can't really. What that sets up isn't seriously followed up on. Noh-Varr shows up in Bendis' Dark Avengers, and some of his other Avengers stuff, but I don't particularily like him in that. But you did remind of probably the best book with Noh-Varr in it that's also a good recommendation in terms of stand-alone action comics. Young Avengers volume 2 by Kieron Gillen and Jamie McKelvie  
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Jul 14, 2022 22:53
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Everyone should read that run of Young Avengers, full stop.
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After that, uh, Noh-Varr is kind of a mess. I think his next appearance is one of the Runaways/Young Avengers crossover books that I think was during Civil War. He does some stuff in Secret Invasion, then is in Dark Avengers. Then I think he showed up in Mighty Avengers and they try to change his codename and personality. Nothing really sticks. I'd suggest just skipping to Young Avengers by Gillen since that's closer to the personality Morrison wrote and Gillen expanded on the character. Then he was in Ewing's most recent Guardians of the Galaxy run, which is really good.
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Jul 14, 2022 22:56
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Ewing's GotG was outstanding, I just reread it the other day and that poo poo holds up beautifully
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Does Oubliette show up in any of that?
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Gripweed posted:Does Oubliette show up in any of that? Young Avengers. She has more appearances not related to Noh-Varr through other titles.
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Codependent Poster posted:Young Avengers. She has more appearances not related to Noh-Varr through other titles. she and Midas have surprisingly prominent roles in Original Sin, IIRC
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Jul 15, 2022 02:17
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That owns. I will admit, I am a little disappointed Marvel Boy ends up on a superhero team. I was really hoping to see those two characters with extremely hosed senses of morality doing heroism to an unwilling nation. If he's part of a team with regular heroes I assume that limits him
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Yeah, if what you're looking for is "more Grant Morrison Noh-Varr" you will be disappointed; that original mini stands entirely on its own. Even some of the Dark Reign bits he was in really don't do a great job picking up on the mood and tenor of the character; they have to file down a lot of sharp edges to make him play well with others. That said, in Ewing's GotG he gets to dress like Adam Ant and that ain't nothin'
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Jul 15, 2022 03:16
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At one point the Marvel Boy mini was supposed to be part of the Ultimate universe, but there's absolutely no follow up on that in any comic with the word "Ultimate" in the title.
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Jul 15, 2022 03:23
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I thought it was its own separate story that was supposed to be outside of any continuity. But then it got good reviews and they sort of shoehorned him into 616 and kind of pretended the big stuff he did didn't actually happen.
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Jul 15, 2022 03:34
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Codependent Poster posted:I thought it was its own separate story that was supposed to be outside of any continuity. But then it got good reviews and they sort of shoehorned him into 616 and kind of pretended the big stuff he did didn't actually happen. See also: Sentry
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To my admittedly fallible memory, Morrison's Marvel Boy was always generally intended to be its own standalone thing, but there were rumblings in fan communities at the time that it fit fairly well into the Ultimate Universe, and I think that sort of transitioned over time to "well it actually is an Ultimate book" because, well, no one was doing anything with the property. But then Noh-Varr showed up in the Young Avengers tie-ins to Civil War and Dark Reign, very probably because Bendis or someone else at Marvel went "this is a great fuckin' character, why are we letting it sit around and collect dust instead of using it in new stories" like Bendis did with the Sentry. Unfortunately those tie-ins were mediocre at best, so Noh-Varr just kind of flitted around in that group of characters for a bit and most people basically forgot about him because then the OG Young Avengers got brought back in the Children's Crusade, which was, ah, not good. Bendis tried using him in Dark Avengers but never really seemed to have any sort of idea of what he could do with the character in that book (which is, like, a hallmark of the Bendis era on Avengers), and no one else ever seemed interested in picking up on any of the changes he introduced. Noh-Varr probably would have been mostly a footnote if Gillen hadn't decided to use him as, essentially, a super-hipster in his own Young Avengers book, and thank goodness he did because that book rocked.
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Dark Reign: The List: Wolverine gives you a Noh-Varr and Fantomex story where they break into Weapon Plus to fight a sentient religion. Noh-Varr isn’t effected by its mind control because Kree children are taught an equation that disproves religion, and Fantomex is genetically incapable of believing in anything greater than himself.
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I think both Noh-Varr and Sentry were just Bendis really liking those books and having a lot of personal leeway about what he was allowed to do with The Avengers, and he wrote a lot of really good Avengers books in that time (also some pretty bad ones, but at least not anything as bad as Geoff Johns' Avengers).
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Skwirl posted:I think both Noh-Varr and Sentry were just Bendis really liking those books and having a lot of personal leeway about what he was allowed to do with The Avengers, and he wrote a lot of really good Avengers books in that time (also some pretty bad ones, but at least not anything as bad as Geoff Johns' Avengers). It was a bit about Bendis liking them, yeah, but in interviews he and his editors were always talking in terms of, essentially, IPs. Like, early on he'd say things like "Look at DC. They take their most popular characters and put them in the JLA, right? So people buy that book. Now look at the Avengers. Who are Marvel's most popular characters? Spider-Man and Wolverine, right? And neither of those guys is an Avenger! Who the hell is picking up a book about the Black Knight and Sersi and Gilgamesh or whoever? Let's scrap basically the whole team and then put together a new Avengers team full of characters people like. And also Luke Cage, because he's who I like." He wasn't subtle about it! Dude was thinking in terms of IP as much as anything else, of raising the profiles of some characters and books. Likewise, when the Sentry showed up in Avengers, he was very open in interviews about saying "why the hell would we leave this character just sitting around when we could be doing more things with them and selling even more books?" He said the same thing about the Hood when he decided to make that guy a crimeboss even though that pretty heavily missed the tenor of the original Hood mini. I usually try not to read too much into the individual motivations of a given creator, but Bendis has never been shy about talking about this stuff.
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Codependent Poster posted:Young Avengers. She has more appearances not related to Noh-Varr through other titles. If I remember right wasn't that not really her and just part of the imaginary constructs?
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Finally finished my pull list for the week, which was heavily X-Men focused. That said, Daredevil and Moonknight remain very good.
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I read some old Wolverine comics. Wolverine runs into Sabertooth, and for some reason Sabertooth is convinced he's Wolverine's father. Immediately after that, Wolverine runs into Nick Fury, and mentions that Sabertooth thinks he's his father. Nick Fury says he knows that, and he knows why, but he can't say because it's classified. And the topic is dropped. what?
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that's every solo Wolverine storyline from like 1990 until Origin in a nutshell. bombshell into "that can't be true, but is it???" into "we can never be sure, due to top secret Canadian black ops top secrecy" into next issue: The [Sabre]Truth Revealed??! see you in 30, bub!
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:It was a bit about Bendis liking them, yeah, but in interviews he and his editors were always talking in terms of, essentially, IPs. Like, early on he'd say things like "Look at DC. They take their most popular characters and put them in the JLA, right? So people buy that book. Now look at the Avengers. Who are Marvel's most popular characters? Spider-Man and Wolverine, right? And neither of those guys is an Avenger! Who the hell is picking up a book about the Black Knight and Sersi and Gilgamesh or whoever? Let's scrap basically the whole team and then put together a new Avengers team full of characters people like. And also Luke Cage, because he's who I like." He wasn't subtle about it! Dude was thinking in terms of IP as much as anything else, of raising the profiles of some characters and books. They're doing exactly that with The New Fantastic 4 right now
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The X-man cometh posted:They're doing exactly that with The New Fantastic 4 right now No they aren't. That is a series set in the past, right after those guys were together in 1990.
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The X-man cometh posted:They're doing exactly that with The New Fantastic 4 right now This is more of Peter David getting to write what he wants, coming off of his Maestro series.
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Though yeah Marvel has been running 80s/90s nostalgia books out for a while. Spider man alone had four or five
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Karma Tornado posted:that's every solo Wolverine storyline from like 1990 until Origin in a nutshell. bombshell into "that can't be true, but is it???" into "we can never be sure, due to top secret Canadian black ops top secrecy" into next issue: The [Sabre]Truth Revealed??! see you in 30, bub! There was also a really weird part where Wolverine and Puck travel back in time to the Spanish Civil War and it's made extremely ambiguous and confusing as to if they actually physically travelled back in time or if their modern minds went back into their past bodies, or if the latter happened to Puck and the former happened to Wolverine and then time changed around the events.
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yeah that particular story is mired in all sorts of weird Puck continuity spinning out of Byrne having Puck reminisce about bullfighting with Ernest Hemingway in an issue of Alpha Flight. why that needed to be explored further, in a Lady Deathstrike/Wolverine story, is a great question.
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Cloks posted:This is more of Peter David getting to write what he wants, coming off of his Maestro series.  If it gets us more delightful stupidity I'm all for it.
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Gripweed posted:I read some old Wolverine comics. Wolverine runs into Sabertooth, and for some reason Sabertooth is convinced he's Wolverine's father. Immediately after that, Wolverine runs into Nick Fury, and mentions that Sabertooth thinks he's his father. Nick Fury says he knows that, and he knows why, but he can't say because it's classified. And the topic is dropped. I think that was Chris Claremont's original plan for them, but for some reason it was never fully implemented despite being hinted for a while. I believe it was eventually brushed aside as the Weapon X project implanting false memories into them to control them.
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Karma Tornado posted:yeah that particular story is mired in all sorts of weird Puck continuity spinning out of Byrne having Puck reminisce about bullfighting with Ernest Hemingway in an issue of Alpha Flight. why that needed to be explored further, in a Lady Deathstrike/Wolverine story, is a great question. Oh yeah, what's the deal with Lady Deathstrike? She says she has adamantium claws, but it doesn't look like she does? Her entire arms and hands and fingers just grow longer and become elongated robot arms for some reason. What's up with her little hat? Why does she want Wolverines skeleton if she herself if made of adamantium? What's going on with her?
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