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TenementFunster posted:"foreign tactics" like "looking at security camera footage" and "running the serial number of this literal smoking gun we found at the scene of the crime" another classic tenementfunster post
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indigi posted:trying to imagine the kind of family that raises children who sob inconsolably for hours because a parade was canceled lol goons are so loving out of touch with all of humanity jfc
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Jul 7, 2022 00:13
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TenementFunster posted:cops dont know everyone in town, and not everything is a gladio. they found the gun at the scene, made one phone call, and ran the serial. do you know what the process is to run a serial number on a gun lmao
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Jul 7, 2022 00:24
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Pontificating rear end posted:stop talking about ops you literal loving schizos *racism looks at this post disapprovingly and clears its throat*
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Jul 7, 2022 00:26
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Completely absurd to suggest cops in a fairly small town might recognize the son of a guy who ran for mayor, I mean maybe if they had already had to confiscate a bunch of knives from him or something but still I would doubt it
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Jul 7, 2022 00:35
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alright let me check out this video of a guy who killed a bunch of people….. hmm it’s that guy who said he was gonna kill a bunch of people last year and we took all his knives. small world I guess
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Jul 7, 2022 00:37
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Pretty sure they had a picture of the guys car and license plate. Dunno if they got a picture of it after running the gun or not.
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Jul 7, 2022 00:45
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people need to watch less Law and Order. there’s no “running a serial” for a gun unless it’s been self-reported as stolen to a particular department
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Jul 7, 2022 00:47
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:tfw you've got the shooter in your sights but you haven't gotten an order to kill him yet from your boss who threw away his walkie talkie because he thought it would slow him down intense clancy wiggum energy all around
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Jul 7, 2022 00:48
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indigi posted:do you know what the process is to run a serial number on a gun lmao Current US law prohibits this  indigi posted:people need to watch less Law and Order. there’s no “running a serial” for a gun unless it’s been self-reported as stolen to a particular department
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Jul 7, 2022 00:50
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TenementFunster posted:Yes. Do you? apparently not in Illinois lol. that should be the standard everywhere, none of the states I’ve purchased or owned guns in required that
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Jul 7, 2022 01:12
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You gotta go all or nothing w/r/t gun ownership, you can't just have some people having guns bc that includes psychos and excludes children
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do you have a link to the Illinois registration law? all I can find is that Chicago repealed their municipal registration requirement in 2013
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Jul 7, 2022 01:18
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indigi posted:do you have a link to the Illinois registration law? all I can find is that Chicago repealed their municipal registration requirement in 2013 https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/il...2BCard%2BAct%2E
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Jul 7, 2022 01:24
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so what if he just filed off the serial
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Jul 7, 2022 01:34
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ikanreed posted:I honestly I have no idea who cannibal is and I do not know why I should know. his name is cabinalabel, get it right.
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Jul 7, 2022 01:35
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Wolfy posted:Kind of curious how hard you looked because the illinois gun law wiki page was the first google result when i googled "Illinois firearm registration law" and the foid portal was the first one when i googled "illinois firearm registration" I read through that, the only database they legislate is one for guns reported as stolen. gun stores have to keep record of a sale for ten years on-premises and FFLs for 20, state and local police don’t have access to either set of records. that’s why I asked.
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Jul 7, 2022 01:38
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TenementFunster posted:"foreign tactics" like "looking at security camera footage" and "running the serial number of this literal smoking gun we found at the scene of the crime" that's not at all what i was talking about + you seem unhinged
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indigi posted:I read through that, the only database they legislate is one for guns reported as stolen. gun stores have to keep record of a sale for ten years on-premises and FFLs for 20, state and local police don’t have access to either set of records. that’s why I asked. Also noteworthy, the seller does have to enter the firearm and buyer info into the IL firearms transfer website. As far as I can tell there is no requirement for them to destroy it. This is going to be the major difference if you're not used to states that operate their own background checks. So you're right, Illinois doesn't have gun registration but they most likely have a pretty good idea who bought what firearms within the state.
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Jul 7, 2022 02:12
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My friend is in the FBI in Illinois (lmao) and at one time I remember her talking about the pushback against some central gun database. So it's not an instantaneous sql query by name like they would like.
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Jul 7, 2022 02:15
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it should just be as simple as looking up a fuckin VIN
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synapse posted:My friend is in the FBI in Illinois (lmao) and at one time I remember her talking about the pushback against some central gun database. So it's not an instantaneous sql query by name like they would like. indigi posted:it should just be as simple as looking up a fuckin VIN i read on this forum something about there being a database of sorts, but the lookup functions are artificially slowed down and take like 10 minutes each, and lookups made doing the cooldown period are legally required to go through due to some gun lobby bullshit. the way it was phrased it sounded believable. anyone else hear similar?
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synapse posted:My friend is in the FBI in Illinois (lmao) and at one time I remember her talking about the pushback against some central gun database. So it's not an instantaneous sql query by name like they would like. there’s a central database of sorts. it’s a building with rooms and rooms of boxes with physical media copies of sales records that legally can’t be organized in any way. like you can’t put all the A states in the same room. you can’t write down which different rooms the Arizona records are in. it’s staffed by a bunch of people who spend all day searching through these boxes reading individual sales records until they find a match and then they call back whichever department sent in the request
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Jul 7, 2022 02:23
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indigi posted:there’s a central database of sorts. it’s a building with rooms and rooms of boxes with physical media copies of sales records that legally can’t be organized in any way. like you can’t put all the A states in the same room. you can’t write down which different rooms the Arizona records are in. it’s staffed by a bunch of people who spend all day searching through these boxes reading individual sales records until they find a match and then they call back whichever department sent in the request That sounds like it was designed to drive one mad
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Jul 7, 2022 02:29
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indigi posted:apparently not it's the most likely reason the cops could find bob crimo so fast, but they probably don't want to publicize that for the obvious reason. mark immune posted:that's not at all what i was talking about + you seem unhinged Wolfy posted:They could have called up the local gunshops and were able to get an answer fairly quickly. TenementFunster has issued a correction as of 02:41 on Jul 7, 2022 |
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Jul 7, 2022 02:36
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TenementFunster posted:Yeah, I could tell. do you have a link to the law setting up the Illinois serial database? I can’t find it TenementFunster posted:anyway, the first google result for the illinois law is the state's transfer portal, where you put in the seller's name, FOID card number, and make/model/serial of the gun, then the buyer's name and FOID number. oh so you’re actually just guessing that such a database exists, and that they used it. nevermind
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indigi posted:do you have a link to the law setting up the Illinois serial database? I can’t find it
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TenementFunster posted:this took me 30 seconds of googling. sales records are kept for 10 years. by the store
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your mistake is engaging with tenementfunster in good faith like there's a point to any of these rants
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Sounds right to me that they have everything they need to look up who bought what gun where but it's made artificially slow by the gun lobby or NRA. So I wonder if they got him from the security camera first cause I definitely saw a picture of his lovely car and license plate the day of the shooting. I forget why we care about this anyway.
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Jul 7, 2022 02:49
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indigi posted:by the store they just put out an BOLO for any man in a costume wig after looking at all the security camera footage in a 10 mile radius because of gladio. Javid posted:your mistake is engaging with tenementfunster in good faith like there's a point to any of these rants synapse posted:Sounds right to me that they have everything they need to look up who bought what gun where but it's made artificially slow by the gun lobby or NRA. TenementFunster has issued a correction as of 02:55 on Jul 7, 2022 |
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Jul 7, 2022 02:52
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TenementFunster posted:yeah why would the state police keep track of what serials are connected to a specific FOID? there’s all these straws right here for you to take
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Jul 7, 2022 02:55
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indigi posted:there’s all these straws right here for you to take couldn't be the state police had the name, license number, and make, model and serial of the gun he bought two years ago.
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Jul 7, 2022 02:58
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couldn’t be that they’d been to his house to confiscate weapons after making death threats or that he’s the son of a prominent local businessman who ran for mayor. they probably have access to the secret unfunded state firearms database that has helped solve one crime to date
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I have no idea how fast they could look up his gun but they almost certainly didn't actually need to. Just the fact that his dad ran a local business and ran for mayor is enough that they could probably just look up at the rooftop and go hey isn't that Robert crimo's kid. I live in the area and my antisocial parents who, somewhat understandably, interact with the community as little as possible knew the mayor. Hell my mom used to do renovation work for him and he once drunkenly drove my brother to go get stitches. They didn't need to do any csi poo poo to know who it was because it's almost guaranteed they all know his dad
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Jul 7, 2022 03:02
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i do not think it's a huge stretch for the state police to keep data that is sent to them
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indigi posted:couldn’t be that they’d been to his house to confiscate weapons after making death threats or that he’s the son of a prominent local businessman who ran for mayor. they probably have access to the secret unfunded state firearms database that has helped solve one crime to date
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Jul 7, 2022 03:18
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TenementFunster posted:yeah, it's way more plausible that it was a gladio thing "this was gladio, this was definitely a gladio, they did a gladio" is how I imagine you see every post
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Jul 7, 2022 04:12
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:"this was gladio, this was definitely a gladio, they did a gladio" is how I imagine you see every post
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:"this was gladio, this was definitely a gladio, they did a gladio"
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