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icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Did not expect that

Daddys hot grill posted:

Abe got shot, so what (does this mean for the election)? 

https://www.iwate-np.co.jp/article/kyodo/2022/7/8/911597

Possibly a wave for the LDP as a sympathy vote. Could very well be the trigger for an authoritarian crackdown on political freedom, which people had been predicting since Abe came back 10 years ago, and never happened. If Abe getting got is the trigger for it, it will be ironic at least

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jul 8, 2022

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Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017

This happened because the thread was bumped.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Charles 2 of Spain posted:

This happened because the thread was bumped.

welp

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



https://twitter.com/japantimes/status/1545240553797066752?s=20&t=w_cyBDbVZy-0nHBFmkXM3g

quote:

UPDATE: Former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was attacked by a man from behind while he was making a stump speech on a street in Nara on Friday.

Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017

He's dead.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Source?

Doctor Teeth
Sep 12, 2008


https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1545242537530904577

e: japanese source

https://twitter.com/kyodo_english/status/1545242258240569344

Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017

NHK reporting 心肺停止

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
poo poo.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
NHK World English radio feed saying the attacker didn't run away after the shooting and let himself be arrested.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

hosed up poo poo yo. Dead just like that. Insanity.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Charles 2 of Spain posted:

NHK reporting 心肺停止

Yeah that's the language the police usually use when they're dead, since in Japan they have to go to the hospital and be checked before they can be officially declared dead.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
NHK World saying he was shot from behind with a shotgun.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Pakled posted:

NHK World saying he was shot from behind with a shotgun.

It looks like dude had a homemade shotgun, which, wow

And yeah the “unconscious” is just phrasing on the way to announcing it. Abe got shot by a shotgun shell at very close range, he’s toast.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Holy poo poo abe is dead.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

He apparently got shot twice. With that lovely improvised shotgun. First one didn’t fell him, but second one did. No one’s surviving two blasts of a shotgun. This is nuts.

J.A.B.C.
Jul 2, 2007

There's no need to rush to be an adult.


These next few weeks are going to be insanity.

harperdc posted:

It looks like dude had a homemade shotgun, which, wow

And yeah the “unconscious” is just phrasing on the way to announcing it. Abe got shot by a shotgun shell at very close range, he’s toast.

Do we have a source for the home-made shotgun info?

Also, depending on how lovely it was made and the distance, it might be possible to survive. But two shots at spitting distance, even a zip gun is gonna leave you messed up. It doesn't surprise me if they are reporting dead after that.

J.A.B.C. fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jul 8, 2022

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

日テレ reporting that it was two shots in the back from 3 meters.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer
Rip shinzo, just couldn't stop spilling his guts

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Uh, wow. Dunno if anyone has any better theories but was Abe considered a traitor by the far right? Just going by recent Japanese history it seems a more likely bet than a leftist, but who knows. Fun times ahead.

Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017

I wouldn't bet on anything at the moment, the guy's been arrested so there's that at least.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Aurubin posted:

Uh, wow. Dunno if anyone has any better theories but was Abe considered a traitor by the far right? Just going by recent Japanese history it seems a more likely bet than a leftist, but who knows. Fun times ahead.

That's plausible, Kishi himself ended up stabbed by an uyoku in the chaos in 1960.

My money is on Ukrainian nationalist though

FishBulbia
Dec 22, 2021

https://twitter.com/nk55zRXFyFv1zgP/status/1545253125287645186

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

They've already released the guys name and there are loads of photos of his takedown on Twitter.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



JAMOOOL posted:

All my Abes gone

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
https://twitter.com/nick_kapur/status/1545247855346319360/photo/1

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck
It's been a bad couple of centuries for politicians named Abe.

When was the last assassination in Japan, attempted or otherwise? Was it when that yakuza guy killed the mayor of Nagasaki over car insurance?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

The perpretrator was former police officer named Tetsuya Yamagami

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

J.A.B.C. posted:

These next few weeks are going to be insanity.

Do we have a source for the home-made shotgun info?

Also, depending on how lovely it was made and the distance, it might be possible to survive. But two shots at spitting distance, even a zip gun is gonna leave you messed up. It doesn't surprise me if they are reporting dead after that.

From photos it looks like literally two pipes electrical taped to a piece of wood. This is a cheap home made pipe gun with probably home made ammunition.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Grouchio posted:

The perpretrator was former police officer named Tetsuya Yamagami

I haven't seen anything saying he was a former police officer

J.A.B.C.
Jul 2, 2007

There's no need to rush to be an adult.



The amount of smoke in that shot definitely seems home-made.

Killed by a scrap gun. What a way to go.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Apparently it was a sawed off shotgun, which civilians can legally obtain under Japanese law? From twitter.

FishBulbia
Dec 22, 2021

https://twitter.com/kumashirokeishi/status/1545254283850829824?s=21&t=eQ28aLHDsXBZfLBdOuWImA

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Vegetable posted:

Apparently it was a sawed off shotgun, which civilians can legally obtain under Japanese law? From twitter.
If you're gonna say "from twitter," maybe post the actual tweets.

Pics of the gun aren't clear, but at a distance, it looks like a homemade weapon. The amount of smoke from the first shot also suggests that

https://twitter.com/nick_kapur/status/1545257316601462785

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

https://twitter.com/UnseenJapanSite/status/1545253446084767746

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Video of what I will for now call the assassination attempt.

Video is :nws: but does not show gore, you will see the shot happen.

https://twitter.com/maike809588/status/1545255792902905856

Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017

It's technically correct, guns aren't banned they're just hard to get.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

In regards to acquiring a shotgun, it's leaving out a whole pile of details. While it is possible to get a shotgun, the licensing requirements are immense and difficult with periodic renewal requirements and are specifically only allowed for hunting/conservation or skeet shooting. Not sure about sawed off, but that person is also working with old news (they're not a journalism outlet, just bloggers afaict). This also doesn't match with what the gun looks like in pictures and smoke from videos

https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1545250910762283008

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Here is video of Abe being loaded out of a medevac helicopter. I am not a medical professional, but it looks like they may be using one of the fancy machines used in ambulances for what may be CPR, you can see his chest moving up and down pretty far. (The machine is a little robot strapped over a patient on top of a gurney that does compressions.) This would suggest grave injuries and problems with his heart's pulse.

https://twitter.com/maike809588/status/1545259911344422912

Machine I am referencing: https://www.lucas-cpr.com/product_specifications/

Inner Light fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Jul 8, 2022

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Charles 2 of Spain posted:

It's technically correct, guns aren't banned they're just hard to get.

Specific guns are allowed, but the rest are banned. No handguns.


(https://www.businessinsider.com/gun-control-how-japan-has-almost-completely-eliminated-gun-deaths-2017-10)

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