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I can live without internet, but 8+ hours without meaningful communication about what is going on is lol. My Freedom phone internet has been decaying all day to where I can barely even send IMs. I'm going outside!!
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 18:45 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 05:44 |
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The removal of internet from canadian society is a good thing
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 18:55 |
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The Yukon fibre cut the other day was a loving mess as well. Highway washout broke Northwestel's line to BC and cut them off from the outside world for twelve hours. There's currently only the one trunk along the Alaska Highway and if that thing goes down the whole territory loses connectivity.
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 19:05 |
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I hope thousands of Canadians are learning a valuable lesson about using smart home products that need to contact an outside server to be useful
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 20:32 |
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And yet this will not lead to proper regulations since the CRTC and the Libs and Cons are owned by the telecoms. gently caress I hate this country.
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 20:42 |
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Mister Facetious posted:I hope thousands of Canadians are learning a valuable lesson about using smart home products that need to contact an outside server to be useful Meh a lot of them seem designed to work around this. I.e. the connected lights will power on manually if you cycle the power switch. The down side of this is that those lights power on when there's a brief power outage overnight lol.
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 20:49 |
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https://twitter.com/crtceng/status/1545421218534359041
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 20:59 |
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The government watchdog (that is headed by retired executives of Rogers Bell and Telus) is out too???
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 21:03 |
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MatchaZed posted:And yet this will not lead to proper regulations since the CRTC and the Libs and Cons are owned by the telecoms. Bet you any money that Rogers will use this outage as a reason IN FAVOR of letting them buy Shaw
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 21:05 |
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Mister Facetious posted:The government watchdog (that is headed by retired executives of Rogers Bell and Telus) is out too??? only our landlines/main contact number is out, internet and work cells are fine long weekend for the call centre agents, I guess
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 21:25 |
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Cross postCLAM DOWN posted:the entire Rogers IP block is officially off the internet lmao, this will be a while Cloudflare sez https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflares-view-of-the-rogers-communications-outage-in-canada/ quote:Based on what we’re seeing and similar incidents in the past, we believe this is likely to be an internal error, not a cyber attack.
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 21:35 |
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Chris Knight posted:Cross post It's definitely not a cyber attack. Rogers pulled a Facebook and misconfigured some core router somewhere to tell the rest of the internet "Hey, this block of IP Addresses no longer exists. Don't send traffic here." You can watch all of the connections drop from Rogers in this video I recorded. All of the circles represent some kind of network operator (ISP's, CDN's, etc.), Rogers is the red circle. All of the lines moving around are routing paths calculated by all of the network operators trying to find alternate ways to communicate with Rogers as they drop each individual connection. When the lines disappear is the connection dropping from Rogers either because Rogers is announcing "this no longer exists" or no alternate path can be calculated to the destination. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRNcdYejaqw MustardFacial fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Jul 8, 2022 |
# ? Jul 8, 2022 21:47 |
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They should make a new Canadian heritage moment about the recent grad from Herzing college that managed to shut down half of canada
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 22:09 |
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MustardFacial posted:It's definitely not a cyber attack. Rogers pulled a Facebook and misconfigured some core router somewhere to tell the rest of the internet "Hey, this block of IP Addresses no longer exists. Don't send traffic here." Needs more Benny Hill in the background
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 22:30 |
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Mister Facetious posted:Needs more Benny Hill in the background Looks like withdrawing their ASN also took their DNS with it so they very likely Facebooked themselves
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# ? Jul 8, 2022 22:35 |
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Number19 posted:they very likely Facebooked themselves CRTC really should mandate that more of our disasters are cancon, not just what we import from America.
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# ? Jul 9, 2022 06:30 |
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shadow puppet of a posted:They should make a new Canadian heritage moment about the recent grad from Herzing college that managed to shut down half of [Canada]
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# ? Jul 9, 2022 06:48 |
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Blown away that they still don't have an ETA and cause
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# ? Jul 9, 2022 16:42 |
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You still down? My rogers internet came back sometime overnight, but some stuff has been a bit slow.
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# ? Jul 9, 2022 17:03 |
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My cable TV came back but it's choppy.
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# ? Jul 9, 2022 17:18 |
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My Rogers-network Primus came back on sometime between 11 and 3 AST last night in NB
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# ? Jul 9, 2022 19:05 |
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My cellphone came back yesterday evening, and the internet (through Fido) came back this morning, however it’s not been 100% yet.
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# ? Jul 9, 2022 19:10 |
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My Rogers internet is still out. Tried calling as it shows no problems at my address and the wait time was over three hours. Was hung up on a couple of hours in. Live chat not much better.
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# ? Jul 9, 2022 20:54 |
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So the cable TV feed is smooth now... but the audio is doubled and out of sync so every sound and voice is repeated two seconds later, lol ROGERSSSSS!
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 04:13 |
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^ if only we had a Red Skull version of that
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 04:14 |
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Current I cannot load a youtube video by some Canadian LPers/streamers, but I can watch many youtube videos from American creators. Rogers failing CanCon.
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 04:33 |
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Any advice on getting a good deal on bell fibre? I'm thinking I'm gonna switch over pretty soon. My internet's still down and my connection's been flakey enough lately that I already wanted to switch
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 12:30 |
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Tippecanoe posted:Any advice on getting a good deal on bell fibre? I'm thinking I'm gonna switch over pretty soon. My internet's still down and my connection's been flakey enough lately that I already wanted to switch Just say you have a current plan / competing offer and they can make $X or they can make $0.
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 16:10 |
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Shumagorath posted:They would only go as low as $80/mo for 1Gbps when my condo fibre is $50. They made some argument about it being a dedicated line as if they're not doing carrier-grade NAT for every tower too. lol. Bell Fibe is GPON, so it's very much not a dedicated line. It's good though, if you don't have any other fibre options.
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 16:33 |
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Nitr0 posted:What amazes me most about this is actually Interac. How could a national service only have one ISP? Interac is literally down across the country because Rogers went down? Come on guys. IIRC individual terminals use whatever ISP the host business does but the actual Interac servers are hosted in a Rogers datacentre somewhere, so teethgrinder posted:I can live without internet, but 8+ hours without meaningful communication about what is going on is lol. See, this confuses and infuriates me -- my internet went down, ok, I'm not on Rogers but they own the last mile here so that's no surprise. But usually when that happens I can tether to my phone and keep on going. Instead the Freedom Mobile network was so hosed I couldn't even get phone calls through, let alone IP traffic. One of the reasons I signed on with them back when they were WIND is that they had their own towers and backbone infrastructure independent of Bell and Rogers, and weren't just a Rogers reseller. If they're now dependent on Rogers infrastructure why the gently caress am I still paying them rather than signing on with loving Bell so there's at least a chance they won't both be offline at once?
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 17:28 |
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ToxicFrog posted:IIRC individual terminals use whatever ISP the host business does but the actual Interac servers are hosted in a Rogers datacentre somewhere, so My cell phone is with Telus and during the Rogers outage it was dogshit slow. No videos and even images took like 15 seconds to load. I assume it was overloaded from all the people using it since their home internet was down.
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 17:35 |
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Am I understanding this correctly. Rogers is first of all apparently the only reason half of Canada is connected to anything. Rogers announced to the entire internet that it no longer exists, so all traffic that used to go to Rogers stopped. Now they're trying to figure out how to get Canada connected again?
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 18:02 |
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I spent the whole workday tethered to a vpn and voip on freedom and while it wasn’t fast like normal it was perfectly fine for what I needed from it. I still sometimes can’t send texts to people 10 feet away from me, but that’s business as usual with freedom.
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 18:03 |
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ToxicFrog posted:IIRC individual terminals use whatever ISP the host business does but the actual Interac servers are hosted in a Rogers datacentre somewhere, so
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 18:09 |
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Cloudflare is reporting back to normal does all of your internet work again? https://radar.cloudflare.com/asn/812?date_filter=last_7_days
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 18:35 |
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ToxicFrog posted:See, this confuses and infuriates me -- my internet went down, ok, I'm not on Rogers but they own the last mile here so that's no surprise. But usually when that happens I can tether to my phone and keep on going. Instead the Freedom Mobile network was so hosed I couldn't even get phone calls through, let alone IP traffic. Well everyone else on freedom wanted to do the same as you so throughput went to poo poo. I got a haircut yesterday and my barber said he was hotspotting for everyone else. I went through 2gb to cover work stuff just by myself.
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 18:46 |
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I dropped something. What was it? All of my BGP routes. LMAO.
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 19:41 |
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The insane thing is how long it lasted. What exactly did they do they it took like 12 hours to undo. Like, did they somehow nuke their oob management network, and then have no ability to even access their own devices? Was there a logistical nightmare of even being able to contact anybody else with the whole network down? Was there some trainwreck of authenticating the staff to physically enter colo locations with a serial cable in hand? Did they have to do like a coordinated dance with multiple engineers in different physical locations manually removing a config change over console. what even the gently caress. I want to read the post mortem for this
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 20:42 |
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not everything is done to the standard of pirate streaming sites on homebrew hardware, i'm afraid
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# ? Jul 10, 2022 20:45 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 05:44 |
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infernal machines posted:not everything is done to the standard of pirate streaming sites on homebrew hardware, i'm afraid You make fun of me but I only nuked my network like 3 times in 3 years.
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